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How can I control my Cortisol overnight???

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My cortisol is giving me high blood fasting sugars, and it lasts till around 12.00pm. Anybody had this experience and if so how does one control overnight cortisol.

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I have no idea about this link.May be helpful to you.

yourhormones.info/hormones/...

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This statement "My cortisol is giving me high blood fasting sugars, and it lasts till around 12.00 pm"

Are you doing a finger prick test?

What reading do you get blood glucose?

My understanding of fasting blood test is, one have dinner say 7 PM and 12 hour fasting and go for blood test say 8 AM.

Have you ha blood test fro cortisol?

Have a read of the information on this link? May be you are looking for something new?

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was eating one meal a day, eating my dinner at four pm, done by five. then check my blood by pricking my finger before I go to sleep its 92, the next morning I would try at six am and its between 130-150, then try again around 9.30 am still on water fasting only, and it is still high but a bit better, around 12 pm lunch time it starts coming down around 107, then by three pm its around 90 , have dinner at four and its around 120 an hour after, then around 100 two hours after by bed time at nine it is under 100

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What do you eat for dinner?

Can you avoid sugary food?

May be while trying your experiment try to eat just one item, like chickpeas or sweet potatoes, or boil brown rice, or cooked green veg, give it a try.

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Friends ! Seek advise since recently found my blood urea have increased to about 58 and pushing my Critine also to about 1.26. Kindly advise home remedies and what to eat to control the same.

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Consume less protein.

Hi, to control cortisol levels, control stress--exercise at least for in the morning and also post dinner stroll is a must. Also do meditation and yoga.

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Thanks Vinn will do

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How can you be sure that cortisol hormone has caused your high FBS till 1200 pm? What's number? After water fasting or without w-fasting?

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My numbers are always between 130 and 150 after eating one meal a day, around 4.00pm and since I did not eat anything I was still fasting at 12.00 but last night I got up at 2.00am went to the fridge and ate an oz of cheese. The next morning my blood sugar was 112 which is the lowest I had it during water fasting. So it must be the cortisol, the cheese caused my insulin to kick in.

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What an interesting trial. Keep doing for few more days to see the result. Glad to hear your FBS has reduced.

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I understand that you are struggling with your high fasting blood sugar. Consistently high fasting blood sugar is a sign of Impaired fasting BG/Insulin resistance/pre-diabetes/Diabetes depending on how high it is. It is not a sign of high cortisol level. There may be few occasions when cortisol level goes too high due to stress/poor sleep etc. I believe you are not suffering from any serious sleep disorder or stress for that matter.

High level of cortisol and some other hormones like growth hormone, Glucagon, and Adrenaline in the early hours of morning are natural physiological process so that liver can release some glucose into our blood stream to prepare us for the day. Consider it as if NATURE IS PROVIDING US A MORNING BREAKFAST TO START THE DAY IN RESPONSE TO WHICH OUR BLOOD SUGAR RISES.

This happens with everybody - diabetic or non-diabetic. A healthy person can control the rise in blood sugar more effectively by secreting insulin. Unfortunately,T2D being insulin resistant, can not control the rise in BG so effectively hence the level goes higher than desired despite being able to secrete insulin.

What are the ways to reduce fasting blood glucose?

1. Medication: Metformin inhibits liver to dump too much glucose into the blood stream.

2. Diets: What is required is to improve insulin sensitivity. In majority of cases, poor insulin sensitivity is due to fat deposits around organs e.g. liver and pancreas. This problem may be present also with people who may not appear to be overweight. This is known as TOFI (thin outside fat inside). It is more prevalent in Asian populations.

Any diet which reduces the body fat is likely to reduce fat around the organs also, hence it will improve insulin sensitivity. As you note here - it is a gradual process.

3. Many people have reported immediate fall in BG on having a light breakfast. Their PP number becomes lower than the high fasting number. It is worth trying. Fasting in the morning may not be a good idea for some people.

4. These are general suggestions:

a) Finish your dinner at least three hours before going to bed.

b) Do not take heavy dinner.

c) Sleep enough so that you get complete rest and feel energetic in the morning. Resolve all your day's issues before going to bed. No more trying to resolve something while sleeping.

d) Daily physical exercise according to one's capacity. Strength training affects Insulin sensitivity positively.

Overall, losing weight is most important if someone is overweight.

Hope above helps.

in reply toPraveen55

Thank you so much Praveen55. I have anxiety but really not stressed at home or at work, but for some reason I worry a great deal, sometimes when I don't have anything to worry , I get worried about that too. I did eat at two am ( a little cheese) and that morning my numbers were much better. So what you said make a great deal of sense to me.

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You reminded me the old days when I was struggling with my high fasting BG. I will get up between 2-3 am and monitor my BG just to see when it was rising. Up to 4 am it used to remain more or less same as at 11 pm- my bed time. Then I used to take some red wine to keep the liver busy in the morning processing alcohol than releasing sugar in the blood. I did not get any conclusive results. Then I was eating some snacks also which did seem to help. But later on,I started eating some breakfast and found that blood sugar either drops or there is hardly any rise.

Is it okay to ask what is your height and current weight?

As such, there is no independent risk factor from high fasting BG as long as it is below 150 and HbA1c is below 6.5 %. You should not be too anxious. It will come down. It is usually the last one to get better.

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Yes Praveen55 that is exactly what is happening with my Glucose. I am 5ft 4 Italian and overweight, I am 205 lbs, about fifty pounds overweight and having a hard time dropping the weight even with eating one meal a day with no carbs. I should start eating a boiled egg at breakfast , to get the insulin going, to take care of whatever carbs the liver is throwing out

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If you need any assistance on weight management, please let me know without any hesitation. That seems to be most important task for you to accomplish.

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Thank you. I need whatever help I can get because the numbers in the morning are stressing me out. I will listen to what you said and start eating something with no carbs for breakfast.

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Are you not losing weight on OMAD keto?

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I am losing a pound every three days, but my morning Blood sugar has improved, I am getting a reading of 100-120 instead of 130-150. In fact I have not seen 150 in about a week. Thank you for asking

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That is very good progress on both fronts - FBS and weight loss. FBS of 100 -120 and losing over 2 lbs/week are excellent achievements. What do you assign to for a large drop in blood sugar?

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Not sure. I am walking four miles after dinner, then when I get home I take a shower, and test my GS and its usually around 95. The morning is still over 100 , around 126 but not the 150 I was seeing before. Other then that, I really did not change anything, I was thinking of eating a boiled egg in the morning to help bring it down , but really I am never hungry and doing the OMAD

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That is good. Keep it up. You are on right track.

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You are eating one meal a day, at what time of the day do you eat this?

What do you eat for breakfast? for lunch? evening meal?

My son only eat from 12 PM to 8 PM, balanced diet. If you do not eat breakfast, take any sugary drinks till 12 PM, the theory is that stored sugar is used!

I do not want to upset your plan, but do give consideration in time for stored sugar to work when you are active.

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I only eat one meal a day , do not eat breakfast or lunch, eat around four pm, usually six ounces of meat, Ny Steak, or chicken , or Salmon, with a cup of spinach , sometimes I eat eggs in the evening, for desert I eat Macadamia nuts or pecans. High in fat , moderate in protein and vegetables. I am never hungry at all until dinner time.

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Your one meal is at four PM, very good. From the time you wake up till 4 PM, do you any sugary drink? Eating a boiled egg and nuts are excellent. If you can avoid any sugar intake till 4 PM, the stored sugar start to work, the old stored fat, this is a better way of loosing weight. A slow process. I check this in my belly area, for me my belt is my weigh measurement, if it is getting tight I have to control my intake.

Are you living in USA? Good luck with you health plan.

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I have an awesome Health plan, do not trust anything you read in the media. My work pays my health plan and covers everything, but I do not use it much because I do not trust Doctors, they are mostly pill pushers and they still give you the same diet, they have been using for the last twenty years, which gave us all Diabetes

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You should consider to loose say 5% of your total weight slowly, it is important slowly. At the same time it is imperative you take a balanced diet and exercise regularly.

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This is helpful Praveen55. Thanks. I am 51 years my fasting is between 140 to 170 and post is between 110 to 120. I am 74 kgs, height 5 ft and 6 inches . I am gluten sensitive, i eat red rice and lots of vegetables. generally my HbA1c is generally bet 7 to 7.50. Last month it went up to 8.50, i was under tremendous stress and anxiety. Doc added Jalra 50/500 in the night in addition to xmet 500 morning and and night. I am worried about this condition. Any suggestions?

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you need to do a separate post to get answers.!!!

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The information is from a UK site with UK units of measurement.

What do pre-prandial blood glucose levels show?

What the pre-meal test results show may differ slightly for people with type 1 and type 2 diabetes.

Type 1 diabetes: Pre-meal tests are a good way of seeing whether you have injected the right size of dose for your previous meal. If it’s a pre-breakfast test, the result will show you whether your insulin to carbohydrate ratio was correct overnight.

If you have injected too little insulin, you will see your pre-meal results are higher than they should be before your next meal. If you have injected too much, your test results will be too low before your next meal. If you have questions about insulin dosing, write these down and discuss these with your healthcare team.

Type 2 diabetes: Your pre-meal tests can provide an indication of how well your body is coping, with support from any medication, with your previous meal. If you have high results, it may indicate that either the carbohydrate you are eating is too much or that your medication may not be adequate.

If you have questions about your results and what they may be showing, ask your healthcare team.

What are the recommended pre-meal blood glucose levels?

The NICE guidelines for pre-meal blood glucose level targets are:

Type 2 diabetes: 4 to 7 mmol/l

Type 1 diabetes: 4 to 7 mmol/l

Children with type 1 diabetes: 4 to 8 mmol/l

What influences post-prandial blood glucose levels?

Your post-prandial blood glucose levels will largely be influenced by the meal you have eaten, the type and dose of medication you take and how sensitive your body is to insulin. Most people with diabetes can expect to see a rise in blood glucose levels for their after meal results.

The NICE guidelines state the following post meal blood glucose level targets:

Type 2 diabetes: under 8.5 mmol/l

Type 1 diabetes: under 9 mmol/l

Children with type 1 diabetes: under 10 mmol/l

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I do not know how old you are and what time you go to bed?

If you are leading a healthy life, you need 8 hours of sleep.

Why do you get up in the middle of the night to eat food?

I have been in difficult working environment, also helping children with school work.

I used to have a note book and a pen to write down my thoughts or to work on children's home work, difficult math problems!!!!

Employee / employer relationship is very important.

I am 64 years old. have Diabetes and I only got up once and tried eating something to see if my insulin will kick in and help me keep the sugar level down and it did, not something I want to be doing every night, it was just a test. I go to sleep around nine but wake up a couple of times a night and usually go to sleep quite quickly after that .

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Please Google to get more information on your health.

All we need is three meals a day!!!. this is if we are lucky.

Try to control your food and drinks intake, check for free and hidden sugar in your food and drinks!

in reply tosandybrown

Thank you Sandybrown.

I was actually looking for somebody that actually went or is going through the same thing I am.

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