Our January Meeting/Discussion is going to be on Sunday, January 15th at 10 am USA time/8:30 pm India time. I will have a few updated issues we need to discuss that isn't on the agenda right now. Last minute updates.
See you at the meeting!
Activity2004
Waiting for 8:30pm!
12 hours to go!!
I will be there! Don't worry!😀👍
Can't wait. Just hope I remember. maybe should set my alarm. Malaysian time hahaha.....
If you're not there, someone will remind you!😀
Ok cool thanks 🙏
How I can join the meeting?
I am staying at Ahmedabad, Gujarat .
Log on to HU and post comments here!😀👍
Thank God, I had thought I missed the meeting. Will wait to see what 8.30 pm brings!
We'll see you later today!😀 There's a lot of things that will be talked about during the meeting.
Is everyone ready for the meeting?
Starting in a few minutes.
Ok
To start, we have a new Admin. and it is cure! nbreight is no longer going to be the second Admin for the DI group. cure and I both will be here and at DRWF if you need us for anything.
why this change?what happened to NBright?
Thank you Activity2004
May I request all other members who are online to send a small posting to confirm presence plz
Thank you Activity2004 to entrust this responsibility....
be sure I will deliver my best..
@anup ji... you are most senior member here with largest following..... request to contribute your thoughts plz
Second thing, we have a New Members List for the Pin Post section. If you haven't already, please take a look at the updates that have been made and also follow the posting so you know when we have a new member joining so you can welcome them.
Yes that is really great initiative taken by admin... I think this is happening first time in Diabetes India.
Sure we should welcome member so he will be free to share his/her experience and his/her issues.
Very good...
Hidden and shrisamarth ji.... request to contribute your thoughts....
It wasn't working out with nbreight. I had to make the best choice for the group and its interest. Since cure is already an Admin. on DRWF (like me), he can do all the same duties that I'm doing for you, too. No change except people. We will always have 2 Admin. at all times. If someone isn't around, I will get a sub. for everyone to help.
Activity2004
What is DRWF ? Sorry i'm not conversant with abbreviations.
Diabetes Research and Wellness Foundation group on HU.
Do you want to join? Everyone can if they want, but you need to click on the group's Follow button they have on the right hand side of the screen at the top and a green checkmark will show up if you click follow. Lots of friendly members are there.
Sk45
This meeting would help admin to understand issues faced by the members... and find out solutions....
Yes, very much here and like this concept...
Glad to see you.
Great to see you gphilip sir....
alwaysoptimistic
can you share your thoughts.... plz??
Yes!Why not,Admin?
Why did it not work out with nbreight?
There were too many issues and it made it harder to concentrate on what was needed to be done.
hey.... I am still cure... 
There must be respect for designation!
I will be same one among you.... just helping Activity2004 in her work....nothing more alwaysoptimistic
This is good,Admin!
That's right. Nothing will be changing about a person just because they are an Admin.. Everyone is on the same footing.
Third, what do you want to stay the same or be changed?
This is a good decision of appointing cure as an Admin as this forum requires atleast one Admin from Indian origin!
Yes, that's right.
He (cure ) has appreciable knowledge of indian foods,Ayurveda,Indian life style etc.
what happened our @anup jee is not responding???
Why can't it be change to some group or method of science...I mean, modern science, ancient...then chemical, natural, home remedies, etc...
Can you please explain? What can/can't be changed, Hidden ?
I mean, there may be different remedies for same problem...so let people choose and have a go...can be kept as a reference or for study...for instance somebody like Sk45 may be a Homeopath, and @Cure may be a Ayurveda expert...may be @anup a web expert...bring them together, have data in the locker and share whomever want it...
So, do we want to change anything or keep things the way they are?
For motivation-there should be some rewards for contributors like-Contributor of the week/month etc.
Like on a weekly basis give badges for certain ideas? Postings?
Yes!For useful postings/replies.
That's a good idea!
Thank you,Admin!
I think it is very old issue..that we are not able to tag anup.... it is some system problem... we can report this to HU
I'm working on it. It's a glitch on HU's side. It works on other groups.
I'm signing in nearly half an hour late. My apologies. Now waiting to see what will happen.
No problem suryakaizen welcome..
Plz share your thoughts...
Thank you, cure !
suramo bhai are you around???
He said he'd try to come, but he might not be able, cure .
We all are here for one cause....that is How to make our life more comfortable....
The experience shared by other members... and contribution from knowledgeable members help us to gain more knowledge about our condition..
Exactly right!
also it encourages us to fight back...there are many members around who are controlling diabetes successfully...that is great motivation...
Well said,Admin!
Any other ideas/suggestions?
Multiple images posting facility in main posting and image posting facility in replies!
yes....even if we can have facility to upload PDF file... this will help us to upload medical reports in one go...
I'm sorry. What is multiple image posting facility in main posting? I don't understand.
Presently,we can post only one image with our posting.That limits our way of passing information in the form of images.
Yes, that is required...
In Pune...in city where I am staying...we have already started personal meetings...over coffee (without sugar)
and it is really great to meet face to face....
That is a good initiative,Admin!
Any issues or concerns you'd like to bring up?
I actually stumbled upon this HU group by happy accident, while searching for some advice, some guidelines to help deal with my daughter's diabetes and breast cancer, both diagnosed at the same time. The hospital and the doctors are good, but I felt that we need to do something beyond just take medicine.
The LCHF diet came as a total surprise to me. And when I persuaded my daughter to try it, it seemed to work. She is 37, overweight; but her weight is now down from 130 to 105 kgs in 6 months (it kept fluctuating when she was on steroids post-each chemo). She is now undergoing radiation therapy which will last a month. She takes 10 units of Lantus at night. Her aim is to get free of all diabetes medication when her treatment is done.
Maybe the LCHF diet has also helped her tolerate the chemos? I don't know. She has been drinking lot of buttermilk, eating vegetables, lots of lentils, less rice (brown rice), some brown bread and oats dosas and dalia (broken whole wheat). Her fasting sugar ranges from 110-114, and PPBS 140 or so. Importantly, her general health and energy levels have been good. Exercising - not much, really at present. She plans to do it when the weather warms up.
Sorry for such a long post. I am happy to be here with all of you!
suryakaizen I am really happy that she is doing well...may God keep her always smiling and happy...
Thank you cure.
Welcome to the group and the first meeting of the new year!
Just to add that my daughter's HB1AC has dropped from 10.2 in July 2016 to 6.4 this month.
That's fantastic news!
Any questions?
Expand the horizons...
How?
Not just by the cure...why and how Diabetics has became a epidemic sort to be addressed...
Ok
I m sorry to sound off but I m really feeling so frustrated that I don't see half of what I read here being done in my country in the government hospitals.
I have a question: if you start out on diabetes medication (Lantus, glycipage, etc.) what are the effects of going off it? Does it have consequences?
Please call/see the doctor about it.
Well Hidden sir... this T2 is just like hydra.... multi headed.... why we became diabetic has many reasons....some would believe it is due to wrong food habits..some would say it is due to pollution.... some would say due to genetically modified grains.. etc
But real cause is unknown....
No one knows the exact remedy... we all are searching....experimenting...
This forum is for all of us to share our experience...
If people share their diet and reports then we can learn more and we can have better control.
exactly....also we must encourage ppl to share what they understood about condition....
Yes, you said it...let us have a look at it, without being biased...we all know prevention is better than cure, maybe some day we will find it, and leave the future generation at least a clue...
Can someone on insulin for 15 years get to stop it for good and go back to tablets?
Please make an appointment with your doctor and let us know what they say.
anup, do you have any questions?
I am missing Anup Ji!
Hang on..... Be right back!
I tend to think that there may be many reasons for becoming diabetic - wrong food habits, obesity, whatever. But the main trigger seems to be stress. I my daughter's case, there was a major fight between her and her husband last year: he left the house, and came back after 2 months. The kind of tensions she went through are what I think triggered the diabetes, and perhaps the cancer? These are grey areas that medical research does not touch. What part does stress play in triggering diabetes?
What is your experience?
My experience is a little unusual. I had most of my pancreas removed at 2 weeks old as an infant because it put out too much insulin.
Oh!
Activity2004
Never heard of. And now you are devoid of insulin !! Two week old infant is a very early age to decide such drastic step. Well i should not doubt the treating doctors and US health care. Is/ was your mother diabetic ?
No. They thought she was.
Activity2004
What about the other functions of pancreas like glucagon and digestive enzymes ?
I take digestive enzymes. Glucagon kicks out, but not when it's necessary. Insulin is put out when the pancreas "wakes up". No reason why.
Activity2004
Have they removed whole pancreas ? I mean you said most of. What does that mean. I'm really shaken to think about your story.
Digestive enzymes etc taken orally can't fulfil pancreatic secretions. There are so many trace elements and the digestive enzymes themselves are protein, many of them. So must be enteric coated. Frankly i'd like to know from you how effective are the oral enzymes and if you can eat anything and everything i mean that a diabetic can.
The pancreas is a sliver left. Very small. The pills do work, but needs to be taken with lots of different foods or it doesn't get digested and I could have cramping because the food is not going anywhere.
Activity2004
Isn't there anyway out ? How about pancreatic transplant ?
Not yet.
Sk45 yes... here we learn many new things..
Ok thank you admin for having me here and it was nice meeting all of you. I m off to sleep.
So good night all.
Good night, Sk45 !
Good night! We will have our next meeting in a few weeks. Will let you know when and what time. Probably the same time, but need to check with the schedules for everyone.
Sk45, the night is young and we have just started! But okay, good night, sleep well.
Bye everybody!
Please be regular at HU/DI to help each other!!
I think that's all for the meeting unless anyone else has something that they would like to share.
It was nice of you all...thanks!
Yeah I think we can conclude the meeting by words
ॐ सर्वे भवन्तु सुखिनः
सर्वे सन्तु निरामयाः ।
सर्वे भद्राणि पश्यन्तु
मा कश्चिद्दुःखभाग्भवेत् ।
ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥
Meaning:
1: Om, May All become Happy,
2: May All be Free from Illness.
3: May All See what is Auspicious,
4: May no one Suffer.
5: Om Peace, Peace, Peace.
Sorry I missed it all! I haven't been getting HU posts since before Christmas. Thought I d been dumped or something. Have read all the 'meeting' posts, very interesting. Nice to see so many friendly people chatting. JanR
Would you like to suggest any ideas for either changing something or keeping things the way they are right now?
We will try after my daughter's radiation therapy is done. Yes Anup, pushing the envelope is a hard one for a vegetarian, but I think it can be done. You, Sir, have been a great inspiration to me in this whole process. I see you indefatigably repeating advice for new members who, out of distress, are asking the same questions, without reading up on the links and you patiently respond.
As a caregiver, I have learnt a lot from HU and you. I am forced to be creative and discover how veggie foods can be prepared in various ways so we don't feel deprived.
@Anup
We need to find out if cancer cells can utilize ketone bodies as a fuel and how efficiently.
All cells without mitochondria can use only glucose and not Ketones
Cancer cells are devoid of mitochondria. Hence only glucose is the fuel.
What causes cancer is not known but it's known that cancer cells feed on glucose
Sorry was our of network on that day. Hence could not participate
Hidden
Hi. Good to see after a long time.
Mitochondria are the powerhouses of cells without which cells can't survive / live. And cancer cells have uncontrolled proliferation and respiratory activities. They can't be without mitochondria. Please read this.
"Contrary to conventional wisdom, functional mitochondria are essential for the cancer cell. Although mutations in mitochondrial genes are common in cancer cells, they do not inactivate mitochondrial energy metabolism but rather alter the mitochondrial bioenergetic and biosynthetic state"
The issue with cancer cells is they don't obey natural rules.
Shashi. Like our body cells have genetic material in the nucleus mitochondria have their own genetic material.
suramo
Right
Sorry. Was wrong on this
I had not recalled properly
Need to study more on this.
Thank you..
Hidden
😝😝😝😝. It's alright. But i'm happy i get a chance for revision. Talking to you gyus is the toughest thing and i can't make any loose talk. During my residency I used to ask many questions out of an effort to learn everything and my teacher(s) always used to tell me that "you (i) can make mistakes but i ( my teacher ) have to give correct answer. "Par aap log kitna padhate ho yaar. Kitna gyan rakhate ho. It's always good to go to the roots of a problem.
@Anup
She is taking lots of carbs and lanctus insulin. Her a1c 6.4 perhaps suggests that the insulin dosages are okay.
anup
That's exactly my point. There should be some study to establish if keto diet can be used to treat cancers. By the way diabetes is considered a risk factor for cancer.
Dear all
I was in a low signal area
Hence unable to participate
3 days meeting and then 7 days holiday in a low coverage area. Back yesterday
One point:
Facility to upload images
Anyway diabetes has to be controlled by
Diet
Exercise
Some help from some natural stuff like herbs initially
Moral support
No worries Hidden ji though we missed you... may be u can participate in next meet....
This is a very good concept launched by our admin Activity2004 to bring all active members together to share there thoughts....
This will be regular practice in future....so we can exchange thoughts and come up with new ideas..
One suggestion made by alwaysoptimistic was most wonderful suggesting to award active participants with some badges...this will encourage members to participate and contribute more for the benefit of other fellow members...
Good idea
Will be starting the badge idea soon.
My weekly decline of 0.175% sustained from January 16th, and now; I am exiting diabetes range without any medication!
