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eating millets only for six months will cure diabetes according to DR.KHADER in one of TV channels.anybody has tried this.

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now many people are going only for millets and completely stopped wheat and rice.members opinion please.

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MikePollard

Just a swift look at the relative carbohydrate (AKA GLUCOSE) content of three cereals:

Wheat...78 gm/110gm

Rice...28 gm/100gm

Millet...73 gm/100gm

Go figure!

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pragop80 in reply toMikePollard

It is not just carbs but the fiber that helps delay the release of glucose. Kodo Millet which is recommended for diabetes has nearly 14% fiber.

I know a guy who was asked to start Insulin is no longer taking tablets. He eats nothing but millets and jogs everyday. Lost a lot of weight and his HBA1C is in the range of 5.

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yenyen in reply topragop80

The clue lies in the weight loss!

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yenyen in reply toMikePollard

Glycemic indices of some of the siridhanyas

Varagu (Paspalum scorbiculatum) 68± 8

Bajra (Penniseteum typhoideum) 55± 13

Jowar (Sorghum vulgare) 77± 8

Ragi (Eleusine coracana) 104± 13 (but in some preparations it can come down to 70) some varietis of rice:

Sona Masuri 72.0 ± 4.5

Ponni 70.2 ± 3.6

Surti Kolam 77.0 ± 4.0

Brown rice with an average score of 50 and parboiled rice with an average score of 38.

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sati006

I have tried eating Millets for 2 staright years as ragi balls morning for breakfast and dinner, no cure for me, though it didnt affect my sugar number drastically and was on par with chaptathis

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yenyen in reply tosati006

Some of the ragi preparations have a GI of 100 plus- more than that of pure glucose itself!

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soni1

For diabetics he recommends foxtail, banyard, little and browntop millet. Not ragi, wheat rice and sugar. These grains are indeed tasty and ar3 definately worth trying. One has to completely avoid sugar and walk for one hour everyday.

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songbird5 in reply tosoni1

Is this the regimen you are on, or have tried?

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yenyen in reply tosongbird5

I am on a cereal free diet it helps very much to keep the glucose levels down.

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yenyen in reply tosoni1

Varagu (Paspalum scorbiculatum) 68± 8

Bajra (Penniseteum typhoideum) 55± 13

Jowar (Sorghum vulgare) 77± 8

Glycemic indices of these. Bajra is lower but not as mucah as parboiled rice which 38.

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HARRYKRISH in reply toyenyen

Where did you get these glycemic indexes, can you provide link plz...

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soni1

Yes even I avoid rice and wheat completely. I also add hulled barley and I jog for one hour. I won't take any medicines and hba1c of under 6.5 since 2 years. It has worked for me.

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yenyen in reply tosoni1

A cereal free diet works even better.

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Hidden ji something funny with me....the day I eat Bajra roti for dinner....my PPBS shoots up... but FBS net morning is better.

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soni1

Just cool like rice and add rasam or camber to it. If you hit the net you will get lot of receipies.

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Sookshma

Please can somebody share the detailed diet plan recommend by dr khader for :

1. Babies - 1 to 3 year old

2. Pre-diabetic

3. Normal healthy people

4. Old people

thanks,

sookshma

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yenyen in reply toSookshma

Why bother about that quack?

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yenyen

This "Dr.Khader" is a food technologist/homeopath. Here is my reply to the nonsense he propounds.

Mangalore Today News Network

By Prof. Narendra Nayak

Mangaluru, June 24, 2017: Recently a lot of so-called specialists have been delivering gratuitous advice to diabetics about what to eat and misleading them with information which is supposedly authentic. Since some of them prefix ‘Dr.’ to their names, it creates an impression that they are physicians following systems of modern evidence based medicine. Their narratives are also with incidents like - how I advice many patients who come to me…… and so on.

Siridhanya

They create scare with ‘sugar’ and confusing between sucrose, glucose and carbohydrates in general and so on. Those who fall for their traps are mainly those diabetics who are confused, and like all diabetics, hope for a cure for their problem by eradicating it from the ‘roots’ after which they can eat what they want as much as they want like in their pre-diabetic days. Disturbed by the very thought of following a diet or taking treatment for life they tend to swallow all sorts of weird theories peppered with apparently ‘scientific’ data - more importantly, jargon - they tend to ignore the advice of their physicians and follow these vendors of panaceas. The recent plugging of the so called Siri Dhanyas is a shining example of this. The proponents of this tend to combine their advertisements as advice for the gullible along with ‘organic’ farming, yoga, meditation, Satvik food and of course the hidden agenda!

It is not enough for people to plug those things they have to also criticize the so called ‘modern trends’ in order to make their wares look even better. Well let us take a look at their terminology: Sugar for them is cane sugar, which is sucrose, a disaccharide made up of two mono saccharides - glucose and fructose. For them sugar also means glucose only and confuse the people with that. While sucrose is a source of energy the problem with it is with its composition. More than that, the problem is with the 50% fructose component, which cannot be used for energy generation in the body except in very small amounts. It is metabolized only in the liver for fat synthesis. So, one is advised to limit its consumption.

This is twisted to make it look as if cane sugar available in the market is the only bad thing and jaggery is good. Besides tales are cooked up about how bone is added to decolorize boiled cane juice to extract sugar, how toxic chemicals are used to bleach it and so on. People do not understand that, this too contains the same disaccharide sucrose and it is metabolised in the same way as the one in table sugar - whether from sugar cane or from beet or any other source of it.

The glycemic index of sucrose is less than that of jaggery though both are on the higher side. For those who may not know - the glycemic index of a food is its comparison with glucose in increasing blood glucose levels. The lower the glycemic index more slowly is the entry of glucose into the blood stream from the intestine when the particular item is consumed orally. It should be recalled here that most of the carbohydrates in our food are in the form of starch which is digested to glucose before it is absorbed. Well while a detailed discussion on diabetes is beyond the scope of this let us understand that the rapid increase in blood glucose due to a rush of glucose rich blood to the pancreas after absorption of glucose from the digested food results in an increased secretion of insulin which leads to a lot of other things like lipogenesis etc. In diabetics when the pancreas is unable to secrete enough insulin due to many reasons or the insulin cannot have the effect on the end organs the blood glucose rises and this causes the complications of diabetes. If the food material has a lower glycemic index the glucose will be absorbed more slowly and this causes only a slow gradual increase in blood glucose levels. This in essence is the rationale behind advising foods with a lower glycemic index referred to henceforth as GI. Another point in the diatribes of some of these so called experts is addressing sugar or glucose as if it is a poison. Though the discussion of the details of the metabolism of glucose in the human body is beyond the scope of this, it would do well to understand that most of the energy needs of the body of the body are met by glucose and some cells like red blood corpuscles can use only glucose for energy. The brain also mostly uses glucose though it can adapt itself to use of ketone bodies formed from breakdown of fat stored in the body during prolonged starvation.

ShridhanyaThere are many things to be considered about food other than this GI. The total calories are also important, the type of fat, protein, vitamins, minerals etc. But, let us examine only the carbohydrate part most of which enters the mouth as starch. There are others like sucrose, lactose(milk sugar) etc. Free glucose is present in a few materials like corn syrup, honey as such. Otherwise it will be a component of a compound-say starch which is a polysaccharide made up of thousands of glucose molecules linked together by chemical bonds, which must be hydrolyzed for breakdown to glucose which can be absorbed. The rate at which it is absorbed depends on a number of factors including the other components of the meal, the emptying time etc. One of the claims of the Siri Dhanya lobby is that these are low GI. Let us take a look at a few of them:

Siridhanya

So, consumption of parboiled rice is better for diabetics than any of the so called Siri Dhanyas! Now let us take a look at the GI of a few milk products including ice cream:

Milk product GI

Ice cream, premium 38

Milk, full-fat, average 31

Milk, skim, average 31

Reduced-fat yogurt with fruit 33

So does it mean that eating ice cream is better than Siri Dhanyas? Well we have to see about the rest of constituents too. That is total carbohydrate content, fat and protein also. Some of the fruits have a low glycemic index and are highly praised for that under the premise that though they are sweet the blood glucose does not increase much, conveniently forgetting that the fructose content in them can cause various lipid abnormalities like increase in VLDL. Anyway a detailed discussion on that is beyond the scope of this write up. While protein is beneficial the fat can add to calories and cause other problems! In those areas the Siri Dhanyas do not show much promise. They have total carbohydrate content a little less than rice and marginally more fiber. This what Dr.Shrinivas Kakkilaya, a physician of nearly three decades of experience of practicing rational medicine has to say about them:

Siridhanya"Siri Dhanyas or Rich grains are nothing but millets, like Ragi, the finger millet. They have suddenly become a fad – after Yoga as a cure for all ills, now it’s the time for the Siri Dhanyas as the wonders to prevent and cure all ills. But just as Yoga is neither true yoga, nor is a prevention nor a cure for any ills, the Siri Dhanyas have no Siri, and no preventive or curative properties against any diseases. Only the selling middle men will become Srivanta or rich!All these grains are millets - pearl millet (Sajje, Bajra), Barnyard millet (oodalu in Kannada), foxtail millet (navane), Kodo millet (arka or haaraka), Proso millet (baragu), little millet (saame) etc. And like ragi, all these millets have carbohydrate content ranging from 61-70%, about 4-10% less than that of rice and wheat. The caloric content, fiber content and protein content of these millets are also comparable to those of rice, wheat and corn, with only minimal differences. Therefore, terming these millets as extraordinary, or as nutritionally superior to rice or wheat is wrong and totally misleading. (In comparison, most vegetables have carbohydrate content of 1-3%) Consumption of these millets will neither prevent any disease, particularly diabetes, nor will help in the control or treatment of any disease, including diabetes. Moreover, there is no evidence to prove that these millets can prevent or cure any illness."

But these are quite expensive costing around 100 rupees per kilogram. To be fair these need far less water than rice and are drought resistant. Just because of that it does not mean that they are panaceas.

When this is the case we have our pseudo ‘doctors’ singing praises of them and promising full cures for diabetes within six months of consuming them. They have started co-operatives for selling them and many diabetics think of them as a substitute for medical advice and treatment. They have created monopolies for the sales of these grains and are certainly the middlemen are becoming rich living up to the name of siri(rich) dhanyas.

Let diabetics be aware that all cases cannot be managed by diet alone. Those Type 2 diabetics whose glucose levels are not under control need proper medical advice and treatment which is best decided by a physician qualified and trained in the field. Those so called self styled ‘therapists’ who talk about how their pet fad can cure every disease under the sun, moon and stars are not even aware of the fundamentals of processes that cause the disease.. It would do well for the diabetic patient to remember that their disease is not something which kills you on the spot or in a few days. The problem is because of the long term effects of glycosylation of proteins by increased levels of glucose and also the disorders of lipid metabolism. These could lead to complications in almost all of the organs. So, it is best for one to remember these things. I am not writing this for scare mongering or for plugging any practitioner. Whether to follow a rational path supported by evidence or go by myths propagated by some is a decision for the patient to take. We can only point out the facts.

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madhupjadhav in reply toyenyen

The simple relationship is: Carbohydrate divided by Fiber. It is not Carbohydrate - Fiber. It is the ratio. White rice & Millets have same carbohydrates. But when you divide it by fiber you will get the actual glucose metabolism division. In case of wheat it is 60/1 = 60, Rice 60/0.2 = 300, whereas in millets it is 60/8, 60/9, 60/12, etc.

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yummmy1 in reply toyenyen

Hey yenyen, are you a diabetic who has tried millets and not benefitted from it? please share your concerns so that it can benefit others.

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True12 in reply toyenyen

Yen yen, while ur post is old I feel that there are now enough testimony confirming benefit of siridhanya. Would u like to edit and update ur post so that people are not misinformed. I had got worried abt eating these reading ur post but fortunately got better advice in later posts

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yenyen

Read this mangalorean.com/how-relevan...

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tssrealbgm60

I an taking siridhanya since 1.5 months and since then my bowel movement is adversely affected and feel like having constipation . is siridhanya a hoax ?

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maheshraots in reply totssrealbgm60

Hi there, am taking siri dhanya 2 times a day. My bowel movement has improved. Kindly follow the good cooking method to prevent your issues re-occuring.

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M034 in reply tomaheshraots

Are you a diabetic? Has it helped to maintain good blood sugar level?

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indrani-58 in reply toM034

I am diabetic since 13 years and my Hba1c would be around 7.4 . I went to gim and worked out for 2 hrs daily and could achieve a1c level of 7.1, not a gram of weight was reduced. Now I started siridhanya all the five millets 2 days each for 3 times. In six months My weight came down to 60 kgs from 71kgs. My energy levels are high through out the day my a1c level dropped to 6.0. Within 6 months. I am continuing siridhanya as we can prepare many tasty recipes and whole family has started to eat siridhanya. I am very happy with the result.

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sandybrown in reply toindrani-58

What is siridhanya? How do you prepare your daily food intake?

Thanks.

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kashigari

Though this post is very old i thought it is worth sharing my thought. My friend who is diabetic from past two years and taking tabs to control his diabetes has benefited from siri dhanya. 4 months back his HBA1C was 7.4 before starting siri dhanya diet. He stopped all medication and started eating Siri Dhanya. After 4 months his HBA1C is 5.7. So he got benefit from this kind of diet. He says they are very tasty and he has to eat them only for lunch and dinner. During other times of day he is not feeling hungry.

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kashigari in reply tokashigari

One more important...Siri Dhanya by Khader Vali doesnt include Ragi, Jowar, Bajra etc. Below are to be taken each one two days:

1. Foxtail Millet

2. Kodo Millet

3. Small Millet

4. Barnyard Millet

5. Brown Top Millet

I myself diabetic from past 15 years started this 3 months back and found lot of improvement in my BS levels. Every morning i am hitting FBS of 90-100. But still taking medicine. After some days i may stop medication also if BS levels come down for me.

I need to get checked for HBA1C.

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