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blood sugar of 103 mg/dl for 27 year old?

My fasting blood sugar was 103 mg/dl. Is this high. I am not obese and fairly fit. Can someone quickly answer me this?

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Normal range is 90 - 110

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This is not normal though lab range is wide. Fasting BS should be less than 90. Check you post meal sugar also.

Non-diabetics have their FBS in between 75-85.

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I checked this through a glucometer while I was fasting.

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Check FBS (lab), PPBS (lab), Hba1c, fasting insulin and lipids.

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check multiple times ...ppbs specially after eating some sweet or white rice...or juice

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It is not at all high

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I m non-diabetic. Does this fall under 'pre-diabetes'?

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to make sure get fasting insulin tested ...you will get to know...dont worry ...

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How to compute IR any formula please

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How to compute IR any formula please, My fasting insulin 4.25 fasting BS 95

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Dont get lost with buzzword "diabetes" ...fasting bs ...fasting insulin...understand your body ....

Fasting insulin is good and fasting bs is fair ...though not very good ...cut down carbs...everybody lose their beta cells diabetic or non diabetic ....if beta cells are lost beyond a threshold one is declared daibetic ...so forget about the buzzword "diabetes"... :)

Cutting down carb will decrease the load on pancreas to keep up with load of carbs...and thus it will get chance to rest and recover its lost beta cells...eat atmost 3 meals a day and dont snack much ...as this will give rest to digestive system and lighten the load and give opportunity to recover

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Good sensitivity to insulin, less beta cell function.

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karch @anup shrisamarth

look here what web page posted by shrisamartha

says....

care.diabetesjournals.org/c...

HOMA can be used to assess longitudinal changes in β-cell function and IR in patients with diabetes in order to examine the natural history of diabetes and to assess the effects of treatment. For example, the model was used in the U.K. Prospective Diabetes Study (UKPDS) to demonstrate the effects of sulfonylureas and metformin on IR and β-cell function, compared with diet, over a 6-year period (26). The study showed an initial increase in β-cell function (from 46 to 78%) at 1 year in subjects on a sulfonylurea, followed by a steady decline in function to 52% at 6 years. Subjects on diet only (n = 486) exhibited a gradual decline in β-cell function of ∼4% per year. Insulin sensitivity only changed in subjects on metformin (n = 159), increasing from 51 to 62% at 1 year and remaining at 62% at 6 years.

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cure @anup

These above results show that only Metformin is more effective in increasing insulin sensitivity and BCF than other drugs like sulfonylurea or diet only treatments.

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how fat exert load on pancreas...?

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:) ... there are already many thing things and wait and watch Q... please explain...this one I can not put in wait and watch q

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:O :O

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how " Excess fats contribute to the dysfunction of Thyroid and pitutory glands also. "??

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What are Lipase and proteinase and how they can play role in healing T2DM?

Qs:why doesnt Beta cells get reconstructed ? why out of so many delligent people like Anup in forum , none got cured except George ...

There is something else doesnt get repaired in the whole process of T2DM....is it liver or something else?...

Why body lose its ability to reconstruct certain cells after certain age say just after 40 ?

Thats where we need doctors to explain the answer of these questions?

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hmm...if you follow this rule ...then only 10 % ppl are non-diabetic and rest are diabetic??

No...living on extremes is good ...but that creates a constant stress in body ...living under the hood of constant fear ...is this something we like to live for another 50-80 years ?? :) ...

BTW Cure is not hoax ...it happens on this earth ... only thing is diabetes is much more complicated than healing of a wound by body automatically

If in any dark corner of our mind we feel defeated and hopeless for cure ...cure can not happen :)

P.S. : I learnt a lesson : Its easy to convince n people ...but very very(goes on :) ) ....tough to convince our own self truely:)

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Let it rot , who cares :)...leave something on GOD...why taking stress everytime and increasing IR automatically :)

todaysdietitian.com/newarch...

By reducing the pressure of infinite loop in mind related to stress of increasing bs and rotting body...you can add 20 more gms of carbs (120 :)) some day in daily diet :D

BTW once upon a time mediating for 20 mins deeply...I reduced 20 pts of bs in 20 mins...isnt it an achievement ??

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no no ...dont do that ...I have chess addiction and I do it almost daily and it never works :)

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Actually I feel there is unknown tension in each and every muscle of body and if you willfully release that tension ...through meditation ...it increase overall blood flow in body and promote better metabolism of carbs and body works efficiently thereafter

pehle bhajan kirtan/ppoja path meditation jaise karte the ...ab meditation karna hoga :)

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Now a days ...even in joint family people are less tolerant and so dont think merely joint family will solve the issues...every individual has to change from inside and become more socially , family wise and personally responsible rather than seeking their own freedom/space ...things are more complicated than olden days ...tv...internet ...mobile se kahan time hai(whatsapp/kakao din bhar buzz kar raha hai) ...ki logon se baat karein :)

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yes ...yes and the great "big boss " show ?? problem is in our times there was no dish connection ...DD hi tha bas ...ab to 24hrs bas channel hi channel ...news hi news aur satsang hi satsang ...discovery hi discovery :D ..."just rub the lamp and Jini is here " :)

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your lchf works far better than this theory :)

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...just switch on "LCHF" switch and Anup is on :D :D

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calm down ...calm down ...world is much much more than LCHF and IF :)

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Good that you told that...

Its late night here in India... :)

Good night

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hmmm @anup ji we always talk about proof... not opinion...

We really don't know what was IR and BCF of ShooterGeorge at the time when he got diagnosed.....

Same case is with you....

We really don't know what is his BCF and IR at present when he claims cured....

We also don't know if LCH * diet helped you in reducing IR.

None of international stalwarts those gets quoted in forum ever gave reading in regards to BCF and IR...

Hmmm its all puzzle....

I just requested Shashikantiyengar to do those tests as he is experimenting on Vijaysar which is said to heal beata cells....yes heals...

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Hmmm @ anup bhai... even with full blown Diabetes... at Hba1c 13+ I retained around 60% BCF....

There is all possibility many ppl even must have retained better...90% may be.... they can enjoy bit more life than us???

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like my other friend @jingle baba..... he is young.... if he understands this... may be he can freely enjoy more life....

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ADA/WHO/Mayo.....'F' them (forget them) ......just I know almost all diabetics are foodies...and once we know these things...they can enjoy bit more life.... although restricted... but still everything is not lost....

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:O hmmmm Government should look in to those GMO wheat immediately

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Bhai @anup tum hath yogi ho....

Sab log toh nahi ho sakate na....

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hmmmm....ok.... no comments....

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The primary source of education started from this forum ...we get keywords ...we google and read ...

I know some cells dont get regenerated ...but most cells do ...You can post a good link for understanding the regeneration of cells ...thats how we do ...we post the link which gave us understanding

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thats better ...instead of giving a scold like a well learned teacher :)...

we are learning each day something new ... we did not do a 5 yr course of medical science :)

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thanks ...same here ...no time ...bye :)

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You replied to the wrong name. I said nothing in this post.

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BCF = 57.3 how ??

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karch

Plz refer following URL

askdrwiki.com/mediawiki/ind...

Calcualation of structure parameters is based on a fasting plasma sample, and it is derived by use of the insulin-glucose product, divided by a constant: (assuming normal-weight, normal subjects < 35 years, having 100% β-cell function an insulin resistance of 1)

HOMA-IR = [Glucose] * [Insulin] / 22.5 (Glucose in mmol/l)

HOMA-IR = [Glucose] * [Insulin] / 405 (Glucose in mg/dl)

HOMA-Beta = 20 * [Insulin] / ([Glucose] - 3.5) % (Glucose in mmol/l)

HOMA-Beta = 360 * [Insulin] / ([Glucose] - 63) % (Glucose in mg/dl)

IR is insulin resistance and %β is the β-cell function. Insulin is given in mU/L. Glucose and Insulin are both during fasting.[2]

This model correlated well with estimates using the euglycemic clamp method (r = 0.88).[2]

The authors have tested HOMA extensively against other measures of insulin resistance (or its reciprocal, insulin sensitivity) and β-cell function.[3][4][5]

A new version of HOMA, called HOMA 2 is recalibrated to modern insulin assays. It can be calculated with software from Oxford University called HOMA Calculator, however equations have not been published.

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thanks...for detailed reply ...

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karch but look at parameters.... is says assuming normal-weight, normal subjects < 35 years, having 100% β-cell function an insulin resistance of 1

Now if we give weight to various parameters....our calculations may go wrong...

But atleast we will have some idea...

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and is it due to Gluten sensitivity???

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yes....it is all about insulin secretion...and not about health....and that proves your point that with use of sulfonylureas...initially patient will get relief...but eventually he will shift on insulin injections...

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Q is : apart from autoimmune case of diabetes ...why does BCF decline and why dosent beta cells has low chances to recover ...when other organs cells are regenerated periodically why doesnt pancreatic cells ??Is diabetes a combined problem with liver + pancreas + ?? some other X organs ?? ...

Anup...you are keeping your BS levels below 120 (and being very strict about it )at any time since 6 years and still you say beta cells didnt recover ?? why didnt Beta call regenerated even if giving them suitable environment to recover ....what else is missing in this story ...some nutrition or some other organ recovery is ignored ?? what is the unknown factor/s "X"?

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question is....why Alfa cells are also not getting destructed???

Why only beta cells???

@anup have you very done your fasting insulin and beta cells function 5 yrs ago??? or recently??

do u find any improvement???

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So bhai @anup i think it is necessary to know your BCF and IR....so you can modify your diet more efficiently to achieve better number with less efforts.

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Oh that is your choice @anup bhai....

you may opt to eat or not....but atleast you will have mental satisfaction...

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are yar @anup bhai ghumao nahi.... bolna hai toh bolo.... nahi toh jane do yar....

Kya yar hum tumko guruji bolte hai aur tum hai ke guma dete ho....

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chalo thik hai....Guruji ne bola hai toh sun lege...

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Baba Ramdev recommends certain asanas to activate Beta cells:-)

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ranges comes in to be pre diabetic

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Hi

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