Country wise CHD table

[karch]

Hi All,

I found this site :

worldlifeexpectancy.com/cau...

If we see france and South korea are having least cases of CHD. I know about South korea...they eat very less grains and almost no sweet everyday. Their diet mostly consists of animal fat like pork, beef, chicken and sea food and may be a small bowl of rice. You can hardly find any vegetarian dish in market.Average 60 year old here is so active and energetic and almost free from diseases (accept liver problems due to very high consumption of alcohol).If we closely watch their diet that resembles to LCHF and so for japan...they also have a lot of fermented vegetables , seafood almost no grains . May be good intake of vitmain D and B12 through seafood can also be cause.But you can feel the vibrant health by seeing them running around always.Here you can easily spot healthy and very active people in their 70's and 80's.For France also :

myheartsisters.org/2010/07/...

In France also the diet has more saturated fat. Even after being a vegeterian nation India is colored in red.

[no2diabetes]

But what are the options for vegetarian diabetics??

[karch]

For country like India LCHF is a little bit different as not many fat options and so is the protein. I wonder how can we get 60 gms of protein being a vegetarian?

[Hidden]

Seen,please post data of CKD in respect of all countries,why only CHD?.wHAT IS THE EFFECT OF HIGH FATE CONSUMED ON KIDNIES AND RENAL SYSYTEM?

[karch in reply to Hidden]

In the same site you can see the chart for different other diseases for all the countries...but I can tell you Japanese and korean are never in red list ..may be for liver diseases they can be in red...the life expectancy of Japanese and koreans are much more higher than other countries...I am not advocating LCHF...may be these countries consume a lot of sea-food and their activity levels can also be the key to their health...Everyone in Korea is always running...even for normal chores...they are very social and everyone in family and friends eat in same plate...very less stress in society...very honest people...very less crime ...You can easily spot small children coming back home from school by their own...everything contributes to good health...not only diet

And you know how much stress is there in india either social or individal. You can not imagine in India now a days that you kid is coming back from school on his own...all is stress

[Hidden]

In this forum it was said that person consuming high fat cannot eat high carbs diet in combination,then why this contradiction? Net shell result is high fat diet is equally bad as high carbs diet. We have to see effect on all body organs and not simple CHD alone,

[karch in reply to Hidden]

Unity is strength:):)...so lets explore more about our diet from experience of people around the world...May be some day we discover a new diet plan which is neither of any extreme:):)Key is : we have to go ahead

[mzb007 in reply to Hidden]

There is no harm in trying for 3 months . In 3 months High fat can never damage the system more worse than what high carb and hence high BS can do in comparison. So worth a try!!!

You can follow / un follow it later basis your test reports.

[karch in reply to mzb007]

agree...i am trying...its hard to say no to grains:) and eat a lot of fat...we are programmed from our childhood to eat a lot of grains and less fat...so it will take time to reset:)

[mzb007 in reply to karch]

I too am a newly diagnosed diabetic and sailing in the same boat.

Not yet reached to the perfect LCHF Diet in gms but even halfway, my readings are better and energy levels are high.

Surf forums outside of India and you will find more and more people talking about low carbs. That obviously mean high fat to fulfill energy requirement of the body.

Anup named it completely as LCHF with a dedicated forum.

On numbers I haven't seen more people getting medicine free from any other diet but LCHF.

[karch in reply to mzb007]

hmm...aim for good readings...dont get off the medicine , as diabetes is there in your since some time and harmed it ...so if you want to recover fully ...you have to reverse the side effects too...I would suggest go for ayurvedic medicine and Yoga to heal the body further. Skin near to my ankles went brown due to undetected diabetes and even after taking aloopathic medicines ...and having having good control on BS it never vanished ..before i started ayurvedic medicine and started Yoga...now it is all gone...The skin is now same as other parts of foot.I am aiming to switch to ayurvedic medicine and take the minimum dose of it to get the effect of Diabetes reversed

Ayurvedic medicine are just like spices we take daily ..nothing made artificially...all natural...so it does not have side effect ...just as if you take tulsi everyday...it wont give you any side effect.

[mzb007 in reply to karch]

I don't have belief on ayurveda or Homeo.

It has never worked on me.

Diabetes is all about diet and I firmly believe that only a proper diet can control it.

[karch in reply to mzb007]

I have firm believe in Yoga...I have seen it doing miracles many times for me ... I dont know about others...There is no doubt that right fuel is needed to drive a car...but without repairing and maintenance and daily proper care ...fuel will also not work too efficiently:)

[Hidden]

Agreed

[karch]

For any diet if you are not exercising enough ...body will start showing up problems now or later. Here we are not alone talking about diet , its overall management of body for a diabetic.Our bodies are made to work hard...remember what dawn phenomena says...in morning increase in BS to prepare body for hunting...we really have to work hard physically to keep our body fit in long term ...thats the way human body is evolved...every animal/bird/ works hard to get the food. So one can not ignore the importance of physical work ...whatever the diet is:) If you don't drive a car for long time...whatever best fuel you use in it...it is going to show problems:)

[no2diabetes]

Sir, kindly help me by posting your diet plan so that i can workout mine. I am 48 year old with 500mg metaformin twice daily since 2 months. My hba1c was 5.9 while fbs and ppbs where 128 and 160. I was on lifestyle change since last 4 years without meds. I am active person vth swimming, walking doing housework and no classic diabetic symptoms. It was the creepy right leg pain since 1 year (neuropathy) that became worse day by day and so medicines started. Leg pain completely reversed 1 month after meds. But i feel scared that after some time i vl start seeing side effects of meds.. Thanks 👍 for the forum that helps to reach.

[sezal]

ALL THESE COUNTRIES HAVE STRICT FOOD SAFETY RULES AND VERY STRICT AUTHORITIES.iN OUR COUNTRYMOST OF THE EATABLE GOODS ARE ADULTRATED CAUSING HB PRESSURE AND DIABETES.fOR EXAMPLE A RESTUARANT AND A KARYANA STORE WAS FOUND HAVING RATE DROPPINGS BY THE HEALTH AUTHORITIES..bOTHE THE ESTABLISHMENTS WERE SEALED FOR TILL THEY CHANGED THEIR THEIR FLOORS INTIRELY.hERE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN CONIVANCE WITHOFFICERS AND POLITICIANS ARE THRIBING AT THE COST OF PUBLIC AS EVEN IF SAMPLES ARE TAKEN NOTHING HAPPEN TO THEM.aDULTRATED ARTICLES ARE CAUSING MOST OF THE DISEASES IN INDIA AND LIFE STYLE WE ARE FOLLOWING

[karch in reply to sezal]

I agree...Its not only government ...everybody has to become more honest towards their duties and country and their society...like one day I was going through a video of natural farming methods...I came to know that Chiilies in NCR have 20 times more pesticides than allowed...and so do the Urea and artificial fertilizers. We and our children are just eating much more pestricides and Urea ...We can not put all the blame on government...I belong to village background and know about farming closely...I know many people just use pestricides and Urea like anything...as they are just careless about all the people who will be eating them...Its sad to see all these happening...somehow we have to take the responsibility as it is impacting us hugely

I want to start organic farming for myself and my family:) and some time back I seriously started looking for people who are interested in this:)

[rajaji123]

Shri Arun Kumar

I am also vegetarian I am finding it difficult to follow lchf diet. It will be great help if you share your complete diet since morning to night

Thanks and regards

Rajendra

[no2diabetes]

Thanks a lot sir. I am collecting from others also. I will take these inputs, tweak and workout my diet. May be i vl add a breakfast. Do you use sugarfree in tea / cofee or just plain. Thanks again.

[no2diabetes]

Thanks a lot for kicking off interesting post nd valuable inputs sir. Went through ur website and its something noble one can give back to society. Will start working my diet. To start i vl make one meal lchf nd slowly proceed to all. Vl comeback and update on forum once i have tried for few weeks. Thnks

[karch]

Hi Anup,

How to sprout peanuts?

[karch]

Thanks:)

[no2diabetes]

Yes sir. I looked into some meal plans. Very valuable info. Also as i keep working i.e i swim, walk. Even if i am not doing them, i vl be doing housework, clean ndcscrub bathrooms, bath dog, walk him. As i am freelancing trainer, vn i go for work, i am standing nd speaking from 9 30 to 6. Considering my energy demand , i need to tailor my food. As of now i have started reducing my carbs and increasing protien nd fat. I am still not used to testing my blood sugars on daily basis. I get it tested in lab once in 3 months. Will make up my mind, get the testing strips nd start working on my diet. Thanks a lot.

[no2diabetes]

Sir, my doc had given me lupikrill capsules. These are high in dha and epa. I also eat flaxseed dry chutney powder as well add chia in shakes though not regularly. I also eat 2 to 3 walnuts. I checked these have ALA. Are these enough for ALA or a supplement required

Thanks

[shrisamarth Volunteer in reply to no2diabetes]

You are talking about Alpha-Linolenic Acid - omega 3 fatty acid. It is not Alpha Lipoic Acid.

ALA from flaxseeds is inefficiently converted to EPA and DHA.