poor quality of advice

I notice that most of the suggestions seem to come from non medical or those from other paramedics, whose claims are either commercial based, or highly prejudiced with no scientific basis of their claims.

the diabetic audience is prepared to believe anyone who allows them to eat as usual and are not really serious in following their own physicians advice.

This writer,a diabetic has tried yoga, homeo, ayurvedic, herbal , acupuncture, and reiki.

found all of them disappointing

, I have tried in these columns to encourage all diabetics to return back to time tested Oral pills and or insulin, before harming themselves more.

But unfortunately, there are very few takers for my suggestion.

I myself benefited nothing so far from these suggestions.

hence out of frustration I am voluntarily withdrawing from this blog spot

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  • I totally disagree eventhough I am insulin- dependant.. There is nothing wrong in trying any other methods which are not basically harmful.

  • High fat diets may cause renal failure because it produces high value of organic acids which ruins the kidneys plz inform bout it to me I am serious

  • very true. I am in full agreement with you. There is bigger medical racket to keep you engaged in meds. I believe since diabetic condition internal to the human body the cure also lies inside. Only vested interests are keeping that knowledge away from us.

  • since 1994 i never used dalda or rath or any brnd of fat except 20 gms of deshi ghee but last two years idon't take it also. I don't use carbohydrates . I use only 1200 calories per day as my doctor advisied me. I take two chapatis of gram and soyabeen with wheat grains i always suffer from constipation so i take isubgol but still get my fasting sugar lavel high i.e. 100+ i travel around 200 km. daily now tell me what should i do more i am 59 years.

  • I feel your food habit is slightly flawed.

    Continue to use home made ghee, made from whole milk,butter etc .

    You said you are not taking carbs but you are using wheat which is carbs+gluten

    Soyabeen should NOT be taken in any form except fermente d form.

    How do you ferment it?

    Soak it for 48-72 hours. Allow sproting for 5 -7 days..

    (Sprouts willbe 9 inch by now)

    Add it while doing your batter for dosa or idli. If you do not eat these, add these ( This is second best as you are not fermenting) to your batter for chapati after grinding it.

    You have not mentioned vegetables and fruits.

  • Yes, I agree. All patients who carry more sugar in blood, and consequences they are going to face is desperate souls. They cannot listen to high dosages Pills and Injections, because, that will create more side effects than cure the decease.

    What is advisable is coming back to nature cure without any side effects. Try this you own go to the site facebook.com/pages/Lookatme...

    Cut paste this link and see and try for yourself . Also get this medical information about this vine from google search (Tinospora cordifolia) is the vine name, which is available in your own compound or neighbourhood

    Or else go to Youtube and search for "Wonderful cure for diabetics"

  • Is there any such course of study(specialization) in medicine called DIABETOLOGY

    Diabetalogist?, to my knowledge no, either at graduate level or PG, only the general physician( MD) is competent to treat a diabetic patient.Displaying such boards(diabetologist) by the doctors with MBBS degree, is it not an offense?Cheating public.

  • MBBS doctors can not claim to be diabetologist. Only people with DM (Endocrinology ) with focussed work on diabetes can be called diabetologist.

  • @mpath,Actually,you have no reason to complain because a vast majority of people are doing exactly what you are advocating i.e.depending on pills and insulin or both.The discussions are primarily focused on diet,exercise,stress reduction and diabetic complications,It is OK if some people think that alternate systems are worth giving a trial.At the end of the day, we humans do the right thing only after exhausting all other options,So,please do not be discouraged.

  • I agree with you and I only follow my doctor's advice and none other. with my regular dose i tried some ayurvedic formulee but no response. so I suggest every diabetic not experiment with your body and others

  • suggest me to get low carb and high fat diet and how shall i take it i am 59 and taking 1200 cal. per dy with proteen low carb nd low fat. i walk around 3.5 km dily and travel approximately 200 km. in the day by road. can you suggest me from which ingradients i will get high fat. plz. reply soon

  • a appreciate your comments that is y i start a blog just see and give your comments

  • What is meant by Fat,can any body describe in detail meaning of FAT and Fat containing items to be consumed as for pure vegetarian,why over weight person is called in simple Language as FAT or OBESE,WHAT MAKE THEM SO

  • I fully agree with you. Some one suggested me, from this forum only to contact a person who treats diabetes. I contacted that person and he came to my house. He brought three drugs to my house all three belonged Forever USA Company. Theses were 1)Aloe Vera 2) Garlic capsule and 3)Omega- 3 capsules. Since I knew about these medicines , I told him that these medicines can not cure diabetes & all these were general tonic and may improve general health but it will not cure diabetes .

    But that person insisted that the Aloe Vera , garlic & Omega -3 will cure diabetes . I refused to buy these very costly products from him for Rs 4000/- which he was charging me. When I did not purchase from them,they left my house with out selling me the medicines. Later I, realised that they were the agent of Forever products. All are cautioned to be aware .

  • Many multi level marketng companies are selling such stuff saying it helps diabetes/obesity/CVD and everything else on earth.

  • Why not use discretion? See in today's blog two useful suggestions are there.

    1. Try low carb diet? If you have a trust worthy family physician consult him

    2. Take a walk after dinner.

    Try to separate good suggestions from bad

    Don't go to extremes on anything. Take the middle path.

    Good luck

  • low carb diet is the first commonsense approach, anybody will follow first before coming into this forum, and is hence not the final solution.

    Walk after dinner is fine, but what about those with osteo arthritis knee or hip?

  • You have not gone to the bottom of the disease and have not tried the most crucial therapy i.e exercising. Do leisure jogging, brisk walking or the most effective cycling for at least one month religiously and share your experience with all of us.

  • brisk walking is fine for those with normal joints. not so for those with advanced osteoarthritis.

    cycling religiously was partly responsible for my eroding the cartilage in my knees and premature osteoarthritis, and so please do not suggest this to all

  • dear mpath in your original post poor quality of advice I could not see you mentioning that you have advanced osteoarthritis and hence my suggestion of exercising but here I would like to point out that you yourself being a high diabetic must be well aware of role exercise plays in controlling this disease and leading a healthy life.

    And one more suggestion just being highly critical and having such a negative attitude just doesn't help. My advice was in all earnestness and nothing more than that.

    Thank you

  • thank you for your concern and noble thoughts.

    There is something between being pessimistic and optimistic, "Realistic"

    My critical comments are meant in all earnestness not to encourage quackery, wasting precious time and landing in more complications for the diabetic while looking for the non existing cure

    .

    With advancing age and arthritis exercise needs to be modified towards meaningful activity

  • mpath-POOR QUALITY OF ADVICE----V R SHARING OUR EXPERIENCE NOT ADVISING.

    MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE IS YOUR PREROGATIVE.THIS IS AT BEST A COMRADERIE

    STEP WITH FELLOW DIABETICS.MY EXPERIENCE IS IDENTICAL TO YOUR OWN.

    AFTERALL ONE'S EXPERIENCE ALONE IS TRUE 4 HIM/HER.VITAL IS DIET CONTROL&

    MANAGEMENT--PATIENT SPECIFIC.NEXT IS NEEDED MEDICINE again patient specific-PHYSICAL ACTIVITY-WALKING MOST PREFERRED AND ACCEPTED-YOGA-PRANAYAM-

    B UNDER A COMPETENT ACKNOWLEDGED ENDOCRONOLOGIST/GEN PHYSICIAN.

    NEXT PRIORITY IS MONITORING AS NEEDED/RECORDED.ALL OTHER AREAS MENTIONED IN YOUR BLOG R JUST DESIRABLE.POSTED ON COMPASSION DAY 4

    mpath..wishing you a healthy life.yours affly-KAILADIYER.

  • thank you for your practical approach

  • every diabetic is different from other.so, always follow tried and time tested medication which is supported by sound clinical research.pl. do not fall pray to biased,unscientific unsubstantiated suggestions.you are responsible for your own health,so pl. be very very careful.

  • patliputra:thanks.kailadiyer.

    AS A GENERAL APPROACH --BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE-REPEAT ONE'S OWN EXPERIENCE ALONE IS TRUE FOR HIM/HER-THE ULTIMATE---TEST WOULD BE A GTT.

    AFTER UR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE HAS CONVINCED U OF AN EFFECTIVE DIABETIC MANAGEMENT & A NORMAL LIFE WITH THE HOME REMEDIES BEING PROJECTED

    IN THESE COLUMNS.AS MENTIONED EARLIER "CHOICE IS YOURS-YOURS ALONE--EVEN WHETHER U WANT 2 TRY &IF FOUND EFFECTIVE AS PER YOUR LIFE STYLE

    GO FOR A GTT.".this is a thought prompter only.V R RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN HEALTH.NO DOUGHT ABOUT IT.WHEN IT REALLY MATTERED-REALLY MATTERED-

    HAD V BEEN RECEPTIVE AND HEEDED WELL MEANT PROF ADVICE A BETTER LIFESTYLE MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE OUTCOME.PERMIT ME TO QUOTE

    AN OLD ADAGE"GLUTTONY KILLETH MORE THAN THE SWORD!!!-GOT IT? ".28.06.13.

    MOA COMPASSION DAY MESSAGE WITH A WISH "SARVE BHAVANTHU SUKHINA -------"

    MORE AFTER ITERACTING WITH OUR PATHOLOGIST&DR IN USA- WHO IS A CONFIRMED DIABETIC AND MANAGING ADMIRABLY WELL.(less than 5.5 glycosylated heam----) assure u of reverting shri patliputra.WISH U WELL AND THANKING U.kailadiyer.

  • GTT is a test for a prediabetic only.

    In general it has no role in a confirmed diabetic

    , and rather potentially harmful when you overload the system already burdened with sugar with an extra load of glucose

    .

    I have unfortunately seen even Diabetologists resorting to this without understanding the practical implications.

  • mpath&pataliputra-GTT IS A TEST 4 FOR PREDIABETICS ONLY-100% RIGHT.---WE HAVE CLAIMS THAT DIABETES IS CURED!!! IF SO U BECOME ANON DIABETIC ! " a thought prompter only--go for a GTT after interacting with with the pathologist..AFTER MY SUSTAINED TREATMENT UNDER ALTERNATE THERAPIES WHEN FASTIN AND PP WERE WELL UNDER CONTROL" I STARTED BRAGGING MY DIBETES IS CURED" I was told a big 'NO' for a GTT!!!!PERMIT ME TO FORGIVE MYSELF FOR ANY MISCONCEPTION CAUSED.2de with encouraging TREND WITH LOW CARBOHYDRATE HIGH FIBRE/INCREASED FAT/RAW BHINDI EXTRACT IN THE MORNING FROM 20 GMS instead of soup from 75 gms in the afternoon I am introspecting..high fat I am yet to try.AFTER15 DAYS I AM DUE FOR PATHOLOGY INCLUDING PROSTATE SPECIFIC ANTIGEN.GTT IS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS -FOR -U -ESPECIALLY AT 76 WITH SO

    MANY COMPLICATION IS ONE INITIAL REACTION!!!TRUST THIS FRANK INTERACTION

    IS USEFUL 4 ALL..HAVE ASSURED A QUANTIFIED APPROACH FOR HOME REMEDY TRIAL WITH LADIES FINGER.SHALL REVERT ON TUESDAY.IN THE MEANTIME THANKIN G U BOTH.AN ADAGE"EXPERIENCE TEACHETH FOOLS!!! he is agreat one who does not learn from it".KAILADIYER.

  • I have not seen a confirmed diabetic turning non diabetic.

    However It is possible for a pre diabetic with a judicious combination of diet and exercise to remain symptom free just ike most yogis.

    But they remain glucose intolerant for life.

    Few who were terminally ill in a hospital setting had to be on insulin finally and left their last breath in coma.

    You have gods blessing to be in control of diabetes at your age

    .wish you a long healthy life

    Thank you for your noble thoughts.

  • i agree with you i also did the same but no result ultimately i came back to my insulin and oral pills but i got damaged my health to some extent but now i am stable.

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