Is it OK to take 2 different types of B1 at the same time? with HDT, B1 Therapy, etc.

[Gcf51]

I am currently having success with taking my sweet spot for TTFD (17.5mg) one day and my sweet spot for B1 hcl oral (1000mg) the next [Why both - TTFD elevates my mood* better than just B1 hcl oral]. Problem: I have a bad neck and I have to take more pain relievers on TTFD days. Which creates another problem: I have been diagnosed with reduced kidney function, and my doctor has told me to limit my use of ibuprofen. Since I am managing my pain satisfactory with Tylenol there really isn’t a problem not taking ibuprofen.

Is it crazy to mix B1’s?

Last year I purchased Elliot Overton’s document “Protocols for addressing thiamine deficiency & the paradoxical reaction” in hopes of finding something to lower my blood pressure (I did not). I don’t know if he has revised. His basic protocol is close to HDT, but his Mega Protocols differ greatly in the following ways: 1) Return of Symptoms is considered a Paradoxical Reaction, and requires cofactors to increase the dosage. 2) It is OK to take more than one form of Thiamine (HCL oral, TTFD, Benfotiamine, etc,) at the same time.

My biggest question is: With all the cofactors and types of B1’s, how are you suppose to determine what’s working and the best combo of? I am assuming my Sweet Spot for one day and my sweet spot of another the next is the sweet spot for both. Maybe a better choice would be 1/2 TTFD in morning and 1/2 B1 hcl oral at noon, but how do I divide 17.5 in half? Since Dap1948 is taking her dose like once a week or less, I should be OK (Yes, I am still sweating: How critical is the sweet spot [+/- 5, 10, 20… percent], the answer, I got was start low, increase in small doses and stop at first signs of improvement - give that dose time.

Reference: healthunlocked.com/cure-par....

* I’m chasing the feeling I had - healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

[Mandoblast]

I use all three: HCl, TTFT, and Benfo. About 25 HCl and about 12+12 TTFD and Befotiamine. Probably on the high side, as I sometimes get a bit spazzy, so I just skip a dose. Currently I am combining the TTFT and Benfo, as powder, but I think I'm going to try separating them, as Benfo might not be effective as a sub-lingual. (Fat soluble). But I also don't think it matters much, since they all end up inside me at some point.

I'm also tinkering with small doses of p-5-p (B-6).

[Gcf51 in reply to Mandoblast]

Do you experience any difference in the effect of one vs the other? I started B1 with the product Allithiamine (50mg) 18 months ago, experienced utopia in 3 days, but I was hardly sleeping. B1 hcl oral does very little for my mood. I now take Japans prescription drug Arinamin-F for my TTFD.

[Mandoblast in reply to Gcf51]

I should probably try to determine that at some point. I would have to take them alone instead of mixing. Yes, I too think of TTFD as more of being grabbed by the collar and stood up. HCl might be more "C'mon sweetie.. Wakey-wakey, it's time for school..""

[Shililly]

I am sorry but what does TTFD stand for ?

[Gcf51]

TTFD (thiamine tetrahydrofurfuryl disulfide) a form of B1 that is highly absorbable and crosses the BBB.

[ccr69]

Does it matter when you take B1 ie before, with or after food? and does it matter whether you take it before or after Parkinson's meds ?

[Gcf51 in reply to ccr69]

The only precaution I take is at least 4 hours before bed.