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B1 Therapy #Case 1 * Manuela Correia

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I've decided to write a series of posts about B1 therapy for a group of people I'm following. Most of them I met through Young Parkies Portugal, or they reached out to me on social media asking for guidance in applying this therapy. Some of these texts had already been published on social media, and I want to draw attention to something curious: all of them have been successful, to a greater or lesser extent, but with an oral thiamine dose below 500 mg, some with doses as low as 50 mg oral B1 HCL. I discovered this accidentally when one person decided to start with 100 mg orally and had remarkable results after 3 days. So, I changed the protocol defined by Daphne Bryan in her book "Parkinson's and the B1 Therapy," and instead of starting the therapy with 500 mg orally or with the sublingual formulation, I have suggested they start with 100 mg oral B1 HCL, maintain that dose for 2 weeks, and if there are no improvements, increase by 100 mg, and so on until reaching 500 mg. My opinion is that some people respond to the therapy with much lower doses than the minimum recommended dose, and that's why they never succeed with this therapy.

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About a month ago, I was at the Lisbon Book Fair for a book signing session at the publisher's booth. I didn't have high expectations since I had already done a book presentation in Évora, and friends, acquaintances, and other interested people had already been there, so I went more to experience the fair and see what it was like. Besides my daughter and a couple of uncles who told me they would show up, I wasn't expecting much attendance. However, I had some unexpected visits from relatives, my sister, my niece, and two cousins. But before that, a couple in their 60s-65s arrived, the lady using a walker, having a lot of difficulty walking. They are Fernando and Manuela, both doctors, both retired, she has had Parkinson's disease for about 15 years, and had DBS (Deep Brain Stimulation) about 1 or 2 years ago, I can't remember exactly now. According to her, it improved some things but worsened others, particularly balance and gait. During our conversations, I came to understand that they knew Ju, and when Carolina (my daughter) asked me how I was getting to Évora and I replied that I was taking the Express bus, Manuela said they lived in Lisbon but had a farmhouse in Évora and they were going there next. She mentioned that if I wanted a ride, they would be happy to take me. After the book signing session, I grabbed a bite to eat and then headed back to Évora with Fernando and Manuela. On the way, we talked about various things related to Parkinson's. I suggested to Manuela that she should get the book about B1 therapy and give it a try since she had nothing to lose and it might provide some benefit. We haven't spoken since then, but yesterday Manuela sent me a message asking if we could meet because she had some doubts about the therapy and wanted to talk to me. I agreed, and we arranged to meet for coffee at Praça do Giraldo before lunch. At 11:30, I met them at a terrace, and I immediately noticed that the walker was not there. I thought maybe Fernando had put it away. I sat down and asked Manuela if she had started the therapy after all, to which she replied yes, she was doing 100 milligrams injectable twice a week. I asked if she had noticed any difference, and she replied, "Marco, I'm so much better! It's unbelievable." That's when I realized why I didn't see the walker; she was carrying an umbrella and a cane to help her walk. She said that as soon as she had the first injection, she noticed a difference after 35 minutes. She even regained her sense of smell, which she had lost before, but now, after all these years, it has come back, although it vanished again. I was amazed. It's truly incredible to see the difference that occurred in less than a month. They even invited me to have lunch with them, and I went. Once we were at the farmhouse, I made a video call to Carolina so that she, who witnessed how Manuela was at the Book Fair, could see how she is now. Fernando send me some videos from before starting the therapy (white dress) and from today, after 6 vials (blue dress). After we finished lunch and before saying goodbye to them, Manuela said to me, "Thank you, Marco, you saved my life." It was touching. Tomorrow I have an appointment with my neurologist. I'll bring my book to give to him, as well as a copy of "Parkinson's and B1 Therapy," the videos of Manuela, and a letter in which she describes the changes she has felt.

UPDATE - After the initial extreme improvements recorded, a period followed where these improvements faded, clearly indicating an overdose scenario. Manuela persisted with injections of 100 mg twice a week, tried the sublingual version without success, took breaks, and restarted. She has now stabilized the initially achieved improvements with a dose of 100 mg oral B1 HCL per day, occasionally skipping a day or two when she feels a loss of therapy effectiveness.

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Mandoblast

Thanks for posting. I agree with your suggestions regarding the b1 procedure and dosing.

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Tonypet

Do you mind if I post a link to this in the B1 Parkinson's Facebook group?

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Markbit in reply toTonypet

I do not at all, but I had posted already when I wrote the original post. I think Daphne even put it in the Success Stories section.

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ForViolet

Thanks for posting this. I went off Facebook a couple of years ago, so appreciate your putting this info here.

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Markbit in reply toForViolet

Yeah, and i have a few more posts to do 😃

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chartist

Thank you for posting this! More confirmation of the effectiveness of B1! On this forum the lowest effective dose of thiamine HCl that I have seen reported is 25 mg/day.

Art

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Markbit in reply tochartist

I Art. I have at least 3 persons who are doing well under 50 mg /day HCL.

Marco

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Shililly

hi I just stared B1 almost 3weeks ago subliminal 100mg 3xweek nothing noticeable yet but I seem shaker afterwards for hours after? However some days I forget to take my second of three C/L daily and that’s interesting?!

Suggestions?

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Markbit in reply toShililly

Usually when B1 is working well, the extendt of the C/L effect is often reported, I'm 16 years into PD and i'm dealing with 4 C/L Plus 2 mucuna capsules. Sometimes i also miss my last pill (very often to be honest). 100 mg sublingual is now considered a high dose(sublingual is way more powerfull than oral). If you notice improvements as you already are, and if you start to feel that they are loosing efficacy, lower your dose.

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Shililly in reply toMarkbit

thank you so much. I cut my hundred milligram in half today but would like to buy 50 mg any recommendations on best company that makes 50 mg sublingual? Thanks

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Shililly in reply toShililly

Also do you think the oral dosage is more affective than the sublingual? I also wonder if body weight is relevant in the dosage? I did some NAD IV at my neurologist office and the dosage was 1000 mg and was supposed to take four hours from beginning to end. Mine took six hours because we had to slow down the IV and eventually I switched to 750 and could tolerate that a little bit better. I am 5’5” and weigh 115 pounds and it would seem relevant in dosage.

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Markbit in reply toShililly

I don't think oral is more effective, i think it's easier to find the sweet spot. I tried sublingual and was a rooler coaster betwen no effects and overdose. Gave up and went back to oral HCL. Weight probably is relevant, but not so much, i think!

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Markbit in reply toShililly

I don't know any, sorry.

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JeanieBeanie

Keep on posting . I love your posts.

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GraceAbounds

Thank you for a very enlightening post. I've been following guidance from Daphne's book and am now taking up to 2500 mg oral B1 HCL daily with no significant improvements that I can discern since I started at 500 mg/day. My constipation has improved, but I think this is due to dietary changes. I am interested in restarting at 100 mg/day as you discussed. How can I get a copy of your book about B1 therapy?

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Markbit in reply toGraceAbounds

I did not write a book about B1, i have translated Daphne's book to Portuguese. I am on B1 theraphy for about 5 years. I simply made some changes to the protocol and tell people to start low because i have randomly discovered that many people react to very small doses, way below 500 mg (see case 2 * Andreia), and probably that´s why they never see any success aplying the therapy. I wrote a book but it´s about my journey with Parkinson's, and unless you can read Portuguese, it won't be any good. Maybe when i do a translation 😁

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GraceAbounds

Thank you for the clarification and your support to the PD community!

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PurpleHiker

I'm a 55-year-old woman and my only Parkinson's symptoms are a slight tremor in my left thumb and difficulty finding words, especially when anxious. I was diagnosed in April 2023.

I started taking the recommended dose of 100 mg. sublingual B1 three times a week for a total of 300 mg. a week. After about 6 weeks, I was feeling very achy, especially in my upper back. I thought it was the progression of the Parkinson's, but decided to stop the B1 and within 2 weeks I felt so much better. After being off the B1 for about a month, I decided to try 100 mg once a week. In a week, the same aches and pains in my upper back started again. It makes me wonder if I'm allergic to B1 or if I should try 50 mg a week? I just joined the Facebook group but would appreciate your advice.

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Markbit in reply toPurpleHiker

Those seem like that could be overdose symptoms to me. Sublingual is way more powerfull than oral B1 HCL, an PD symptoms don't progress in a question of weeks, so my advise would be to stop for 2 weeks and try oral B1. start at 50 mg for two weeks (if you only find 100 mg, take every other day. After 2 weeks, if there is no improvements, jump to 100 mg, stay on that dose for another 2 weeks, and then add 100 mg every 2 weeks IF YOU SEE NO IMPROVMENTS. If you see improvements, stay in that dose. After a few weeks, you might need have to lower a bit if you feel loss of efficacy or if you feel worse. Good luck

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PurpleHiker

Thank you for taking the time to respond. I'll try oral B1. I feel so fortunate to have this community.

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