Ibrutinib and botox

[Cllriri]

Does anyone know if it is allowed having Botox while using ibrutinib? Does it have any side effects?

[Canuck901]

Ask your CLL specialist not sure what the details of the Botox process are

[GMa27]

Best to discuss with your oncologist and the person doing Botox to get their expert experience. Ibrutinib can be hard on your skin.

I had to wait 7 months after chemo to get fillers. 💕

[Zoy2004]

I have a simular question with microcurrent treatment, cosmetic microneedling and IPL.

was testing for a company before started on treatment.

My haematologist said not to get infection.

But looking for a second opinion with microcurrent expecially

[SofiaDeo]

Former A4M member here, I am knowledgable about the technologies. I have had facial botox while on ibrutinib and no problems; my platelets were around 100K and I don't ooze blood during/after blood draws. Or if I scratch/tear my skin. So if your skin and platelets are otherwise normal, your MD should be OK with the botox. re: microcurrent/ microneedling.....IDK about this. you need to be taking a ton of Vit C, extra protein, & other skin nutrients in order to optimally make new skin to begin with (1 molecule collagen uses up 1 molecule Vit C) but if it were me, I would put that metabolic energy/nutrition into making immune cells & staying whole body healthy. You may spend all that $ & increase potential for infection, and you may not get great results because your body will use its supply of Vit C and other nutrients for immune system & other organs./metabolic needs. And considering the closeness you have to be next to that person during this pandemic, and that even health care professionals who should know better are going out unmasked & catching Covid-19, I wouldn't recommend it at this time. Even if they were masked.... unless they have an in room or in-facility air sanitization system(I use the ones from hypoair.com and others), if they are an asymptomatic shedder there could be virus elsewhere in the room (on chair arms, etc.). This is not to be fearful about the covid; I personally wipe everything with soapy water & leave the soap on to dry instead of using/breathing harsh chemicals, but you don't know for sure what others do. So until we have a better handle on the Covid-19 thing, I just try to avoid situations that I don't have infection control over.

Regarding the IPL...ahhh man. Since skin problems can occur with ibrutinib, I wouldn't do/ Haven't done any while on the drug. But I had skin issues early on with the ibrutinib. The problem is, if the technician/esthetician/whoever is doing too high a dose for you...you get skin issues. And you won't know if the issues are because you are sensitive to the IPL, how and to what extent the drug affects it, plus UV exposure from the sun. And you also don't know how a chemical suncreen/IPL/ibrutinib will react. I got a bad sunburn in winter using IPL (pre ibrutinib) from reflection off snow; decades ago I got a bad sunburn after a TCA peel off reflection from water, even though I had heavy sunscreen on. Even when healthy, I won't do IPL except spring or fall. If you have $ to burn & really really want the IPL, I would suggest starting at a super low frequency/amount & wait to see how your skin reacts, then very s l o w l y titrate up.

[LisaHunteriQy18]

I think it's a good idea to ask a specialist about this to avoid possible side effects. By the way, I think that aesthetics is a profitable business, and I'd like to become an expert in this field. So I found Dr. Hennessy Academy that provides Botox Training and Dermal Filler Training courses. If you want to learn more about this, you can visit drhennessyacademy.com/cours... . In fact, I was lucky that my parents wanted me to become a doctor, so I have a medical degree. But I want to admit that I haven't worked in the medical field even a day, and I want to change this. Anyway, I am interested to know your opinion on this topic.