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liver mass was found 2cm

nieldy
nieldy

Hi, my mom had a whole abdomen ultrasound last year, and a small 2cm mass was found in her lower right lobe she doesn't have any symptoms before she had the ultrasound, but this year she's having intermittent pain in her right ribs seems like in the nerves idk... did y'all ever experienced it? she let me massage it every night, this is really stressing me out, cuz my mom doesn't drink alcohol and she's eating healthy foods as well.

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Trust1
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What did the ultrasound report say? There would usually be a clinical plan to further assess what the lump is- MRI scan etc.

Have you been told to massage the area specifically by a doctor? If not, we would suggest to be very cautious as it could cause more problems.

We would suggest to see a doctor for clear safe guidance, examination and further investigation.

nieldy
nieldy in reply to Trust1

thanks for replying, i actually just found out about it, cuz i was away to study, i massage the rib part only and i don't put pressure bc the pain was intermittent and she feels like it's the nerves. we are actually planning to get her some tests but since the covid is really bad in my city, we can't do anything yet, she's taking some herbal medicines tho

nieldy
nieldy in reply to nieldy

the impression of the ultrasound is "small hypoechoic mass with mixed echotexture"

Trust1
Trust1Administrator in reply to nieldy

We would suggest your mum speaks to her doctors and gets a clear understanding of what the mass is.

With regards 'herbal medicines' you may want to read our webpage on complementary and alternative medicines and fully discuss the use of the herbal medicines with the doctor:

britishlivertrust.org.uk/in...

I have one but it’s a benign liver Hemangioma. Is this what your mum has? I’d Imagine if it wasn’t they would have wanted to take it out?? X

nieldy
nieldy in reply to Pamziepam

do you have pain with it?? how big is your lump? I'm wishing it was just benign my mom also had benign mass in her breast before but it just went away on it's own, I'm hoping this is the same case for her, I'm really scared cuz she's only 45.

Pamziepam
Pamziepam in reply to nieldy

If she had the ultrasound last year and they found a mass then they would have followed up surely if there was any chance it could be cancerous? They wouldn’t just leave it. Mine is small at the moment maybe 1cm. I’m being retested in 6 months to see if it growing, I’m not worried about it at all. It’s a mass of tangled veins so they said.

You need to speak to whoever did the scan and ask what the mass was... x

nieldy
nieldy in reply to Pamziepam

the impression of the ultrasound was "small hypoechoic mass with mixed echotexture", tbh she hid it from us, i was away before to study for college, and i went home cuz of pandemic that's how she told me about it, we are planning on getting her check up but not a good idea to go to hospital yet cuz the virus is really bad from where i live (PH 🇵🇭) we're still on lockdown. she's not getting jaundice, and not losing weight where in fact she's gaining and the pain she's feeling is more on nerves pain and not really bad. she's taking herbal meds and liver vitamins since we can't go outside yet. anyway I'm happy for you cuz it's not bad i hope it's just nothing for my mom

Pamziepam
Pamziepam in reply to nieldy

We have lockdown here too and another wave of Covid. Still people are getting scans. I wonder if you could manage to pay for a private scan? I would just to get another opinion or proper diagnosis. Seems a long time to have left something like that. You can read about those masses on google, they can often be benign. Personally I wouldn’t ever take any herbal meds...only anything a doctor would prescribe.

I’m sorry I’m not sure how things work over there but here I would be calling my doctor and demanding to know what they’re going to do next!

Xx

Partner20
Partner20 in reply to nieldy

Masses like these are fairly commonly found, and are, more often than not, benjgn. However, when discovered, there us normally a plan put in place for dealing with them, such as a biopsy, blood tests, a different type of scan, or just simple monitoring. It is strange that there was no follow-up in your mother's case, but maybe, quite understandably, she did not want to question this. You are right that this could feel like nerve pain. The liver itself has no pain receptors, so liver pain is felt as referred pain, in the back or shoulder, for instance, so pain in that area is more likely to be from the nerves. I would be wary of herbal medicines and so-called liver support supplements, as some can do more harm than good. They will certainly not help with any lesion or cyst. I do hope you will be able to get this sorted out for your mother, so that she can get the right answers and any necessary treatment. She is certainly fortunate to have you to help her!

nieldy
nieldy in reply to Partner20

Thank you for replying this means a lot to me, yup i heard that some who has liver diseases their pains are more on the back and shoulder, and there are some instances that they'd go jaundice :(

I'm so sorry to hear this, I have advanced Cirrhosis and I've never been a drinker, what have her doctors said they r going to do about the mass?

the doctor just gave her vitamins for liver sorry to hear that you have an advanced cirrhosis, what were your symptoms???

Hello nieldy, I sorry to hear about your mother's condition. Early identification of any mass is important to rule out possible cancer. Liver tumours are quite common in patients with end-stage liver disease.

At one stage I had five tumours on my liver. Two of these were of the right size and the other three were left to grow. There is a technic that is used called, “Liver Ablation” This is where heat is used to destroy the tumour, at the same time a sample of tissue is taken. This is then used to identify if the tumour is malignant or benign.

There are three types of ablation that produce heat in different ways. These are:

.Microwave

.Radiofrequency

. Laser ablation.

Each type destroys cancer cells by heating them to a high temperature. They may be used if you have previously had surgery or if you’re not fit enough to have surgery.

You will be given a sedative drug to make you feel drowsy and a local anaesthetic to numb the skin of your abdomen. Sometimes ablation is performed using a general anaesthetic. The doctor puts a fine needle through the skin over your liver and into the centre of each tumour. An ultrasound or CT scan is used to guide them. The microwave, radio-frequency or laser then produces heat which passes through the needle and into the tumour. This treatment takes about 30–60 minutes and can be used to treat tumours up to 5cm (2in) in size. This procedure normally involves and overnight stay in the hospital.

The side effects of ablation are usually mild and may last up to a week. They include pain in the liver area, which you can control by taking regular painkillers. Other side effects are a fever (high temperature) and feeling tired and generally unwell. These side effects are due to the body getting rid of the cells that have been destroyed. Try to drink plenty of fluids and get enough rest. Your doctor or nurse may ask you to contact the hospital if your temperature doesn’t settle within a few days or if it goes higher than 38˚C (100.4°F). This is to make sure you don’t have an infection.

Your specialist can give you more information about the possible benefits and risks of these procedures. There is a useful guide that may be of interest at the following web address: uhb.nhs.uk/Downloads/pdf/Pi...

I would strongly recommend that you don’t massage the area, just in case the tumour was cancerous, then there is a chance that some of the cells could break off and enter the blood system.

Sadly COVID has seen many procedures having to be cancelled. Even now most regional hospitals are playing catchup, especially with cancer patients. Many of the Nightingale Hospital that was purpose-built for COVID are now being used as cancer testing centres.

I hope this is of some help.

thanks for replying and for the info, I'm so sorry to hear what you're going through!

Looks like you received great advice and information from liver guru and others above. I was recently diagnosed with HCC and had a microwave ablation of a 2cm lesion done last month. I was anesthetized during the procedure, and the whole experience was not too bad. I'd willingly do it again.

Unfortunately, the follow up MRI showed 2 other small tumors, but they are unable to ablate them due to location. We went with another minimally invasive technique where they implant radioactive beads at the tumor site, depriving them of blood and destroying tumors with the radiation at the same time. Hope it works.

I guess my point is: There are options if you catch the tumors early. Also, an MRI with and without contrast is of much more diagnostic value, and is preferred over a sonagram.

Wish you well. Your mom is fortunate to have you advocating for her.

nieldy
nieldy in reply to WhyADuck

Oh sorry to hear what you're going through, can i ask what was your symptoms??? hoping that radiation will work on you!

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