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Fatty liver Kale Smoothie - heals liver

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Hi all

Try this. It tastes bad, but I think it’s working. Just chug it. My liver pain is much improved after doing this for 2 weeks.

Kale smoothie

- 1 large handful (or 2-3 small handfuls) of kale (stems and all)

Use "Organic Tuscan Kale" from Trader Joe’s - it's in the fresh section, freeze it immediately when you get home and it keeps very long time in the freezer (any high quality organic bagged kale)

- 8 ounces of water (more or less, no ice is needed since the kale and berries are frozen)

- About a cup (handful) of any frozen berries or frozen strawberry banana chunks mix from kroger or anywhere (fresh berries and banana are also fine, but frozen is more convenient)

- Use as much kale and as little fruit as possible, as fruit contains fructose which is bad for the liver. 1 cup of fruit max (or less), no fruit juice.

Blend in any blender for a couple minutes (blend it quite a bit or it's too chunky to drink)

Note: this is extremely high fiber. One a day max. Reduce if it's causing constipation (every other day or so).

Remember: minimize fruit (and all fructose), sugar, and grain based carbs. Eat additional beef and eggs (with yolk) when available, as these benefit liver function and liver healing.

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B3nnen2015

I had one last week.

It was disgusting lol

As you said the kale was tough and didnt blend up properly so i had to munch it down then drink the green watery stuff after it.

Ill try it again tomorrow but blend it for longer

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Laura009 in reply toB3nnen2015

🤢🤮

in reply toLaura009

:-)

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ceande in reply toB3nnen2015

If it’s too chunky, just chew it down and remember to blend more next time.

If it’s too bitter, just gag it down and remember to add more berries next time.

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B3nnen2015 in reply toceande

'Gag ot down' 😂

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B3nnen2015

Is your liver pain in the right shoulder blade?

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ceande in reply toB3nnen2015

Yes. It was anyway. I think those kale smoothies may have fixed it.

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RonShirt

Yes, Kale sounds like a good thing. But why use any berries at all if the fructose is bad for you?

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ceande in reply toRonShirt

Fructose is the type of sugar that fruit produces, and it’s the sweetest of all the naturally occurring sugars.

Additionally, unlike sugar, fructose is metabolized using a very similar metabolic pathway as alcohol. Instead of creating an insulin response, fructose has to be metabolized directly in the liver.

With that said, I think a cup of frozen strawberries and blueberries mixed with a larger amount of kale is absolutely a net positive.

We need the fiber and choline found in kale to help reduce our liver fat

Additionally, we need methionine (beef and egg yolks).

Avoid alcohol, sugar, and grain based carbs.

Leafy plant based carbs and nutrient rich animal proteins are key to putting the liver in a position to recover.

Hi ceande

It is really positive that you are feeling the benefits of drinking the smoothies. However, we would always suggest that if anyone has a fatty to liver to speak with their own doctors first for specific diet advice.

Best wishes

Trust1

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ceande in reply to

Certainly. I’m not a doctor. I’m just a software developer with a fatty liver.

When it come to matters like these, I think everyone needs to be their own advocate, and at the same time trust their doctors and medical professionals.

Anyone with a hypo thyroid issue may also want to consider adding a little iodine to their diet if they’re drinking these kale shakes every day. This can be done with a kelp supplement, or by snacking on seaweed occasionally. This is generally usually not a concern, but check with your doctor and get some seaweed snack packs (They’re a hell of a lot better than a kale shake).

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Laura009 in reply toceande

Why not Just EAT nice tasty vegetables ??

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ceande in reply toLaura009

Too much chewing. I do eat cooked vegetables, but I do not eat enough raw vegetables.

Besides, kale is disgusting. I could never eat kale.

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Bootandall

Hi,

My dietician told me to reduce red meat in my diet, not increase it. I have a fatty liver, but already have cirrhosis too. Protein is key, high quality protein.

Kale is disgusting, but I guess if you don't eat vegetables juicing is one way to increase your intake of them. Whatever. You do you.

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ceande in reply toBootandall

This ain’t the food network, but your dietician is more highly qualified than me to give diet advice.

I recommend blending over juicing. You want to make sure you’re ingesting all that disgusting vegetable fiber.

Stems and all. Adjust with berries to make it tolerable. Blend for up to 3 minutes if you have a cheap blender. Possibly less with a good blender (I wouldn’t know, my blender sucks).

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Laura009

Once you have removed the foods and or alcoholic drinks from your diet which may have caused the fatty liver and you exercise regularly, the liver needs no suppliments to heal it, it just needs time.

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Owlie in reply toLaura009

Well said!

ceande profile image
ceande in reply toLaura009

Could be, but I also think the choline and methionine are a big help.

This kale shake is not for everybody, but I do believe it really helps, so I wanted to post it.

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Laura009 in reply toceande

Ok but please be aware on this forum the majority of people have more than fatty liver caused by just an irresponsible relationship with alcohol. Many of them have gone way beyond fatty liver caused by various reasons and are suffering greatly from cirrhosis, had transplants, waiting for transplants, suffer severe pain on a daily basis and require far far more than another faddy food idea. I wonder if these sorts of things are best placed on a forum for drinkers looking to become ex drinkers rather than amongst people suffering with severe liver diseases.

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ceande in reply toLaura009

I’m just trying to contribute. I’m sorry you don’t appreciate it, but speak for yourself lady.

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CocoChannel in reply toceande

I appreciated it. I overcame a fatty liver with lifestyle changes which included a better diet.

There are a lot of vegetables I don’t particularly like such as broccoli, beetroot, kale and spinach, but I’m happy to juice these. Yes, it’s better to eat the complete item to get the fibre too, but as that’s not going to happen, juicing’s great.

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Laura009

l don't have any kind of liver disease l'm just the widow of an alcoholic who had liver disease, liver failure, kidney failure and pneumonia. I'm here supporting spouces who are struggling, going through the same as l did. l also understand the importance of a healthy diet, which is easy to digest and with flavours to enjoy and that removing the bad stuff is key .

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Braveheart65

Is fruit really a no-no? If so I am done for. I eat eggs, Syr and chick peas for protein as I cant eat any meat or fish. But I have unlimited fruit daily: strawberries, pomegranate, mango, bananas, grapes, kiwi and pineapple. Every day. If I have to stop this I’m seriously questioning what’s the point as it’s my only enjoyment in food.

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ceande in reply toBraveheart65

You can have a little. As long as it’s in a big nasty kale shake. 🥬 😋

But yeah. Fructose is bad.

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TT-2018 in reply toceande

You need some serious kelp. My end stage decompensated cirrhotic liver survived on copious amounts of fruits, I could not cope with the lactulose. This was with the approval of both my Heptologist and Gastroenterologist Consultants.

Diet fads etc have no real place on a forum dealing with liver disease. Dietary advice should be given to individual patients by medically qualified dieticians.

in reply toTT-2018

Kelp, you say?

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TT-2018 in reply to

Kelp, I need some berry,

Kelp, not just any berry 🤔

in reply toTT-2018

K - E - L - P !!!

When I was younger, so much younger than today

I never needed Kelp in any way.

Those days are gone

And now I'm more mature

I'm saving kelp

And eating no manure....

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ThreeSmiles in reply to

What are you like filly 😀

in reply toThreeSmiles

Kelp me if you can, I'm feeling down

And I do appreciate you being round

KELP!

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A little weed, sea. 😵

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Bill ‘n’ Ben,

Flower pot men.

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Bootandall in reply toBraveheart65

My dietician also said I could eat an unlimited amount of fruit. Fructose is NOT bad for you, it is glucose that is the culprit in developing insulin resistance. Fructose also tastes sweeter.

ceande profile image
ceande in reply toBootandall

Oh yeah. I was just saying from the standpoint of fatty liver it’s not good, because it’s metabolized directly in the liver.

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Bootandall in reply toceande

Well, most things are metabolized in the liver, that's the liver's job and is part of the digestive process.

Do a little research on sucrose versus glucose versus fructose and you will be amazed!💡Then watch for hidden sugars in prepared foods (high fructose corn syrup is a food processing waste product!) and you will quickly find the metabolic culprit in a massive wave of liver disease. (stepping lightly off soapbox) 🌊

in reply toBootandall

"You say tomayto, I say tomahto"

. "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off." 🎶😜

ceande profile image
ceande in reply toBootandall

Well, if your own research and resources suggest that fruit is working in your scenario, go for it.

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TT-2018 in reply toceande

Where else is it supposed to metabolise?

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Shyandretiring

Well I do not know what to think now ! 🤤

in reply toShyandretiring

Shyandretiring, that's a very healthy start point... listen to your body and think about what it tells you.

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