Over two months now, and believing I was heading into the deeper blue ocean towards the dawn of a bright future, I now encounter a reef which I need to circumvent. And to continue the metaphor; hitherto, there’ve been rocks, boulders, undulating terrane, clinging sand and weed, as well as the odd shark that I’ve had to negotiate; yet, here is this barrier.
Certainly not an impenetrable barrier, though one that deserves my respect, nonetheless. Notwithstanding circumstances, there are many variables involved in recovery, such as attitude, perseverance and time. One of the main players for me, was the recent hip replacement. I say was, since I cannot continue to use this reason for the negative factors I feel.
As many of you know, post-surgery is beset with all manner of different living conditions; pain, limited mobility, infection and mood swings et cetera. And during all this, I contend with abstinence. Oh, yes, the wound did become infected, so I attributed some of the lethargy, frustration and melancholy to this cause. Though now it’s mostly healed, and I don’t need a cane any longer either. Yesterday, I was able to drive again, safely and confidently; however, despite these obvious improvements, I’m greatly fatigued.
Now, I’m not just talking about a little slothfulness or lack of motivation, as I’ve been feeling fatigued to the point of non-function and I actually began to think along the lines of, “If it’s this bad, I might as well drink and be done with it”. Yes, I know, totally off the wall, but at that point I remembered the impact of ‘Post-Acute Withdrawal’ (PAW) on recovery.
In as much as we don’t know what we don’t know, I’m certainly glad I was told about this ‘potential’ problem. PAW doesn’t affect everyone of course, and I haven’t experienced it before either, whether from alcohol withdrawal or from any ‘other’ drug. It’s about chemical changes in our brain due to addiction and the time needed for those changes to be reversed. There’s a relevant article at ‘Psychologytoday.com’, type ‘Detoxing after Detox’ in the search box to access it, definitely a good read and being forewarned is forearmed.
I did buy that no alcohol beer again, though I’ll give you the drum, it does contain alcohol, approx. 0.04%. Now, that’s nothing really, isn’t it! Though it could be ‘the thin edge of the wedge’, so be aware. Moreover, on the bottle it said, ‘Zero-alcohol 0.0%’, ha, then in small print, ‘can contain 0.041% alcohol. Unbelievable, but I decided to check it out for myself with my portable breath-tester. Yep, after one ‘stubby’ my breath registered 0.04%. I was really ticked, angry, I don’t even like beeeer!
You know, I’ve tried to give an accurate account, and this post may seem a little on the negative side, though I hasten to say, what good would it do to always give a rosy, unrealistic view! How would that help anyone, let alone me! On the plus side, I’ve continued to lose weight, approx. 8kg now and my lung function is the best. Also, I now know the fatigue will slowly ease and not to be disheartened.
Knowledge can be a powerful tool, and I’ve no doubt there will be other hinderances along this journey, though right now I have a schematic of this reef before me and I’m confident I can negotiate it without injury.
As always, thank you for your support and encouragement
Cya next time
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FRANK SINATRA LYRICS: It's quarter to three, There's no one in the place except you and me So set 'em' up Joe I got a little story I think you should know We're drinking my friend, to the end Of a ...
I can see - not difficult - how tough things are for you at the moment. But I think it’s great you can visualise things in the way you are - that blurry reef - get on your wind surfer and fly into the air over it. You know you can. Get in your car and drive to Perth. You know you can. Well..... ummm ....maybe not but you get the gist - sort of.... My imagination and literary skills are cr*p - sorry!!
But I’m certain that the fact that you can come on here and talk so openly and honestly about what you are going through means that you will succeed - I hope so.
PS don’t mention alcohol free beer on here - last time it was mentioned there was nearly a riot on the forum! It was great fun 😀 but not to be repeated methinks ....but you know me am I joking or not.... 😀😀😀😀😀
My sofa's becoming my second bed these days as I cannot read on my ipad in bed for waking Derek up 👎 I'm now back at the gym to get fit for Christmas 😂😂😂
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Sofa surfing again. 🌊🤳
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Of course Ofeck.... I'm practicing for my sofa charity race through the streets of Manhatton !!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂 joking........ I wsh
Of course I understand much of anything I've posted to date has been hashed over at least once on this site, most likely numerous times. Still, I'm just voicing my own view, my own unique perception and is it's not meant as a generalisation by any means.
If I've offended any members sensibilities, it was never intended.
I appreciate your giving 'me' the drum on this mate
Still, I'm bound to offend or upend someone, generally happens, it's usually my humour...
Good Morning Jalanutan
Firstly may I say that I was never blessed with the powers of writing the way you are, but I would purchase a book of yours should you decide to write as I throughly understood and enjoyed reading every word of your indepth message!
Secondly, congratulations on your success of being able to drive a car again which as we all know can open up many avenues for each coming day ahead!
Thirdly, I was a little shocked to read about the none alcoholic drink situation, but I guess like most advertising packages, reading the small print is a MUST which I do now and then! I've noticed that the worst culprits for hiding hidden ingredients etc under headings such as Fat Free , No Alcohol and No Sugar are the most popular brands which we all know are more costly.
Anyway now that I've babbled on when I shouldn't have, I just wanted to thank you for your message and to wish you well! I now look forward to reading your next update
Hey, thx for your kind words and I'll mail you a first edition for sure True, I've actually begun a novel...
Tell you what, having relied on 'public transport' (PT) for the last four plus weeks, I can honestly say that it's the time spent waiting for the next or connection bus is what irks me the most. Is the rail system similar or better? Whoever says we should rely on PT more...well, I'm just sayin' is all...
Re the no alco beer... I reckon it's the brewers fault here. In oz, the legal alco limit for driving is 0.05%, so these no-alco products are just under that. Again, in oz, they make it sooo difficult to cut back on the booze, since they give a sizeable discount for say 3cans of bourbon'n'cola as distinct from two cans and of course, we all want to save the dosh.
Well the suspense is killing me, is your book of crime, a thriller maybe, comedy even, or maybe an historical biography of some kind. I'm guessing it's not going to be romantic novel but
Ummm, ok, if you really want to know, it began as a 'how to' non-fiction in regard to self-employment (boring). Another 'almost' ready for publication is my autobiography; yet, I can't seem to reach the end...I wonder why!!!
I do like spy-type novels, but 'bated' breath aside, I wouldn't hold my breath. Just kidding
Sounds like you’re doing OK, JU, at least with the booze. You’re going to get those urges, but surely these are weaker than 70 days ago?
We’ve done “alcohol free” beer here a few times. Fair to say it divides opinion. If you’re unsure (or don’t like beer), steer clear. I, along with a few others on this site, drink a 0.05% beer two or three times a week. Orange juice and bread contain more alcohol. As a former beer drinker (lots of), there’s zero connection for me between this beer-flavoured water which I can take or leave and the real beer which I developed a dependency to. The brand of alco-free beer I prefer also has only 4.3g of sugar per bottle.
Yes, doin ok on the abstinence front and the urges are much reduced. Though it's the psych stuff that's prob atm.
Re the no alco products. I'm only giving my own unique perspective as it applies to me alone and do not judge anyone on what or what not they do in that regard.
If I liked beer, then I guess I'd be doin' the low alco stuff too.
I had to Coco, not only was the stuff killing me, I wanted to be in better shape 'for' the op as well.
What exacerbated everything was a move into a new neighbourhood where the locals are up at sparrow fart, like 3-4am, watch TV all day and hit the cot by 6.30. I mean, I rarely watch the box, preferring to listen to quality hifi, and at times loud. So, I got them all complaining, didn't I!!! In my opinion, they're all waiting for God and I'm inclined to give them a nudge in that direction...direct them the the local church that is.
Ok, ok, I'm just showing my disdain for the 'old young', whom, apart from their aged mentality, seem to be quite mobile...when they want to be, that is.
And how can I make the above claim; well, apart from my daily walks and jaunts to the beach, I've been stuck in my digs convalescing, able to observe the goings on of those around...
Alright, I'm over it... I've not read Thomo, and no, not the other stuff, though I've had a few interesting experiences which are definitely not the norm
Apologies in advance if I have offended anyone by the above outburst. I'll no doubt hear about it if I have eh!
I'll add you to my list of those who'll be mailed a first ed.
These alcohol free drinks are scary. I was told by the substance abuse doctor that I am not to have them because of the minimal trace of alcohol and probably to prevent me from getting the taste of wine again. Also told not to have any food containing alcohol because it is not totally reduced in the cooking, this proves very difficult when eating out, imagine asking does this lasagne contain red wine I'm a recovering alcoholic. Has anybody else been told this ?
Sympathies Joe. Eating out is altogether a nightmare. I rarely do it anymore. The joy of being with friends and family is wiped out for me, not just for difficulty about alcohol in food. But all the usual suspects that go with eating.
Now you are definitely going to start the debate off about alc free thingies.
I have to say I am not a fan of alcohol free drinks - not because I have anything against them - gor me it’s anything that has the word alcohol in it - strange or odd but...
Fight club, toxic. Absolutely, but why do they insist in calling it non alcoholic? Hate that term, no disrespect.
In Spain EuroSpar's own label is branded non alcoholic @ 0.5% ffs, now that's toxic. I had to saunter on down to another Super Mercado to find zero.
I do makeusof occasionally & appreciate it's a personal choice, but one doesn't stop breathing because the air we breath is toxic. Fuming!?
With Bated breath. 🤔
Thanks for the update on your epic journey Jalanutan. It may be different for a surfer, but in my own experience it all comes down to taking the tide at the time that works, not at the time my will to sail is strong. I'm tempted to recklessness often because I forget it doesn't work out. Sitting on the shore, whittling the driftwood relics of others' journeys, I think I'm wasting time and wonder if it's all pointless and I should chuck it in. But it is this time that allows me to see the chart again and learn how to take the tide when the time is right.
PS I love Miles' talk of riots about low alc beer, and I love how he doesn't remember he is often in the middle of riots...
Thx Fili. I've mostly been a bit impulsive and gotten myself in strife for it. I hear you though, and if I would be so bold as to say, that you are still there, on the shore, watching and waiting.
In the end, what others achieve or fail to achieve will not impact on your journey. You will know when it's 'your' time and it will be the 'right' time...for you!
I don't know Miles well enough yet, though I get the sense you're all mostly pretty good mates!
I believe Miles is a Master of being able to laugh at himself and anyone else who enjoys a great way to get by at times. It’s a way to use this space that doesn’t suit everyone but nothing ever does suit everyone. Variety is 👌 👍
It's pretty special alright! What amazes me, is that such relationships can be fostered online, like this...with people who are half a world distant, crazy man...
Maybe that's what makes it possible..no expectations...no being who friends and family expect you to be.. just being. And you don't even have to wipe the marmite off yer face after breakfast because no one's looking. Are they?
That's so funny. Bad luck! I love marmite. Just had some on an orange! Many years ago an old Sgt Major told me how on the boat bringing them home as former POW's in Japan, they were each given Marmite (Vit B12) and told it would help heal their sores of malnutrition. One poor lad misunderstood and thought it was a kind of ointment....
Hahaha, it probably worked too...I never liked vegemite, too salty, but cashews dipped in Promite, now that's a tingly, taste-bud sensation... These days, I prefer 'Mightymite', able to leap jagged reefs in a single bound ROFL
I’ll be written about in a chapter of JU’s book for saying this, but in two visits to Australia, I found it reasonably OK, quite big, nice enough people and very very good Asian food (better than Asia), but that was it. It’s not on my list of places to go anymore. Bit far too.
Really, this place is so big, you can visit all four seasons. A little lacking in history, unless you're into the convict, gold-rush or the Irish rebellion. However, we do love our Asian food, as you attest to
They'll be the last supermarket to get it... I think Vegemite was in many of them long ago. I'm sure it won't have spoiled coco's travels to Australia though and I doubt that was why he made the journey.
No wonder you have a few negs re Oz. I'd prefer to watch lawn bowls than cricket or rugby even. Aus rules footy isn't bad, a faster game, though I'm down for water sports and their derivatives, even without grog
I’m not anti Aus ☹️ I just found it far away, well it is far away, and just like England. If I’m going to fly that far, I want the people to at least look different to me.
If somebody bought me a house in, say, Birkenhead Point in Sydney, I dare say I’d live there.
Not sure about Western Australia, though. Bit isolated! The nearest city must be Jakarta which is ideal with your fluent Indonesian 🙂
Yeah, I get it! It's the main reason I prefer Asia, totally different.
Birkenhead Point is huge, but costly to live anywhere near it. WA is ok, isolated, yes, but Jakarta's nothing great. I did like Sumatra, well, back in the day that is, the Indonesian gov like to cut the forest for Palm oil cultivation and in so doing reduce Orangutan habitat
I read a book called The Damage Done by Warren Fellows, an Australian who ended up in prison in Thailand. It’s not a bundle of laughs as you can imagine. His family posted him some food including a big jar of Vegemite. A nasty prison guard opened the jar in front of the author and must have thought it was chocolate. He dipped his finger right in and scooped a dollop into his mouth. That’ll teach.
O my goodness! What crazy people! Surely no one who calls people 'talent' is cool, nor people who are 'watchin' all the talent'? We've evolved since then and we call that harassment now and borderline law-breaking!
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More important than talent, strength, or knowledge is the ability to laugh at yourself and enjoy the pursuit of your dreams. 😜
I'm a veeerry cool dude... And while aware that devolution is more the norm these days, 'talent' is a positive term, and who checks out untalented actors on the world stage? It's a biological issue, and I'm all for that
Did I say talent? Thought I said people watching..... but hey ho 😀. Oh and it was Barbados 🇧🇧 To be really pedantic - do I care? Do I have any talent? No on both fronts 👍
Damn straight. The place is crawlin' with ppl; yet, we're alone. I remember video footage of kids being sprayed with DDT, and since they didn't fall down dead on exposure, it was deemed innocuous, harmless.
I don't intend to precipitate another 'riot' here re the deception of 'no alco products, but I just gotta say that my neighbour recommended a product called 'Rescue Remedy' to help with my insomnia. He was most adamant it had worked in his case, and even his dog. Well, I thought, "Hey, if it works on his 'dog'... then for sure I'll give it a go!".
$20 poorer, I walked out of the 'organic food co-op' with a 10ml bottle of a herbal remedy for the relief of stress, and only four drops on the tongue were the directions. In doing so that night, I immediately recognised the sharp tang of spirits, and not the oogily boogily type either, lol.
I checked the long list of almost illegible ingredients, and there it was, 'contains ethanol'.
Man, what a rip-off. I could've purchased a bottle of bourbon for that money :-0
Just goes to show, it's almost impossible to escape alcohol entirely. It's the elbow bending alcoholic activity that I'm concerned with, not the minor derivatives. Nevertheless, I was more than ticked about wasting 20 bucks :-l
There’s a drug called Antabuse which makes you feel ill if you consume any alcohol. It sounds nasty and must be a last resort for an alcoholic. That Rescue Remedy would be a problem for someone on Antabuse.
I’m the same. I can cook with alcohol, eat tiramisu and could probably manage a chocolate liqueur if I ate chocolate. But when it’s out of a glass, it’s a problem☹️
What’s the story with the insomnia? Is it connected to giving up alcohol?
When I first decided to give up booze, I asked my GP about this. Continuing the random book references (I haven’t read a book in 3 years now ☹️), Antabuse sounds like Ludivico Technique in Clockwork Orange, and I said this to my GP. She didn’t have a clue what I was on about, but she was dead against Antabuse. Pretty controversial stuff, but I guess it has its uses.
You haven’t mentioned AA, so I assume like me you’ve no intention of even thinking of going. It would offer some good character ideas for your book, though.
Re Antabuse, you'd have to be real careful what you ate out, too much grog used in cooking, etc...
AA non anonymous. Yes, I almost gave 'it' a call, but I once attended another NA, 'Narcotics 'non' Anonymous' (NA) a couple of times, and while there was no God factor involved, it was not my scene, I didn't belong at all (no talent
Plus, I've overcome so much in the past, that I knew I was capable of abstaining without overt help. I'm very strength based oriented Coco, and believe in a persons ability to overcome adversity
So, I do have a little experience in the AA/NA areas for my book. Oh, I also attended a 'dual diagnosis' group that did have religious origins, including the 12 steps, an offshoot from AA I believe.
The thought of attending AA made me feel ill in itself - just my little phobia of sitting around discussing my issues - have experienced that sort of thing once at work. It was a course called Advanced Interpersonal Skills. I suppose I could have taken that as a compliment because it could mean I had Basic Interpersonal Skills but somehow I thought that was not necessarily the rationale 😀.
Reiterate re AA it was just not for me and for others I know it has been brilliant 👍
I think you'd be a great group facilitator. It takes those interpersonal skills and a quick wit to keep track of say, 8-10 ppl, which was around my limit.
I gather you know my feelings towards AA, just not for me, as with you. But like you know, and history also attests to their value and success rate...
I say, if it work, then I'm happy too!
Its sofa surfing time again 🌊! Seems I missed some great banter guys!
Oh Miles on GD, she surely does lead a sheltered life ! Sweet thing! 🥰
Whoops I thought Janlan was pulling my leg on the gym comment as I was thinking UK time and to early to have been to the gym already !!!! I truly slipped up there😂😂 Dippy Trishi gets 👎 strike down!
Ah you must be rich and go to a private one! I go to my local authorities gym which is fairly large and trades under the banner of Aspirations ! We have numerous gym classes, a great pool sauna and steam room! 14 months (14) membership for 300 UK pounds which is excellent value but only opens from 6.30am until 10pm 7 days a week ! Lucky you 24/7 😁
Now that is 'rich' lol. Yes, private gym, but I pay approx. the same as you $13.50 a week, machines, weights, classes, cycle room, specialist gym, child care, private car park, dry sauna, steam sauna and 24/7 access. Mind you, I joined when it first opened, which has advantages. If I were to join now, and wanted all the trim, then I'd be paying more
I just got told by gym that I could extend my membership suspension for as long as I needed. I nearly fell over. With disbelief. Had 3 months so far. But not used since 23 April!! So they had 6 months membership fees from me when I couldn’t even use the gym at all! 😕
Oh and I pay £50/m when not suspended - and that is just for off peak use. Sounds right for me - the off peak bit!
Ok, that's pretty good, and I too, have suspended my membership a couple of times due to previous surgery. Though as long as I provide a Dr's cert, I pay nothing until I activate it again. Sounds like your's similar.
Like your Off Peak comment ! I'm feeling a little of the same after attending pre Christmas fish supper gathering at the WI last night followed by another mince pie ........ The Christmas Turkey dinner is yet to come....
Great news on your gym suspension but me thinks still on the high side ..... 😩 DL should revisit senior costs 😃
No, not rapped at all - just my own daftness, I try not to mention real names when I’m critical. Just funny old me. Now is your opportunity to point out all the times I have broken that “rule” of mine. Go for it 😀👍.
I thought I was supa fit until my knee's had a wobble then muscle turned to mush........👎😣😣 I'm now fighting to get back there at the wrong time of the year ....Hot Mince Pies with thick cream 👎👎Yummy 😊
Ok, no-one's about, must be breaky over there. It's now 6.50pm down under, on the dark side of the globe, and I'm bored, frustrated, depressed, pissed (sorry, is that allowed?) and ticked...
Had a bad hair day, or mayb I mixed me meds or something....I feel me life's breakin' apart...right out of left field
Cmon jal matey - you’re doing so well - don’t get a downer now. Tell me anyone who doesn’t feel a bit p*ssed off now and again and I’ll show you a fibber.
You’ve been up before and hopefully you’ll be up tomorrow. Just think of that surf. 😀👍
It’s piddling down here and dark as it can be in the daytime - well almost - so that must be way worse than where you are - dark side my ar..behind.
If you laugh at yourself and then feel worse, more depressed, angrier, with lowered self-esteem, it's safe to assume you're not doing it right.
Suck egg's - Life is like a box of chocolates.
Ain't easy at the best of times. I was gona post this one y/day but didn't wanna spoil the party.
I'm SAD ok Milp lol - Stress, Anxiety & Depression has crept into my otherwise happy go lucky, chilled, take it on the chin attitude.
Good days & bad days trying to go with the flow but I've hit a rut. I know there's a lot of ppl worse off than me but that's still not cutting it. In your reply y/day u asked quo vadis? I only got the answer today which was nowhere fast or soon, I'll stick.
Stuck with this illness doing alright but don't wanna go any further downhill because of it.
Anyway blame it on the weather here's hoping the clouds lift sooner than l8er. Suppose it's 6* dark, wet, windy down under? U can't be sad mate. We gotta get our boomerang back. Your way ahead of me (11hrs) a new day already. Rest easy. 👍
Surfin - to be spaced out and unfocused. Not paying attention to the task at hand. 🙃
Aw feckle...😕 and you always sound so cheerful in your own interesting sort of way. Hope you can rise up against this darkness too. Here’s hoping 🤞 for you that’s for sure.
C’mon man...go for the light at the edge of the clouds - I’m sure, hopefully, tomorrow will bring a brighter day - for you and, for all of us too.....
I hear ya, and identify... On top of everything there's this ageing scenario...'Do not go gentle into that good night, rage, rage against the dying of the light... and I'm fighting it like a son-of-a-bitch...
I'm focused on me returning boomerang, my mojo. Just not sure if it's going to 'clock' me one
I'm finding this sobriety/reality a bit much myself. It helps to keep busy, but when a person feels fatigued like I do, the motivation just isn't there, damn it all......
Sometimes one day changes everything; sometimes years change nothing.
I had a reply to thank Miles for his kind words but it disappeared? Basically trying to explain my downer, maybe. 352 days on 7th prob struck a chord 1yr on I'm no better, but no worse. Explains my reply to urs "Nowhere fast or soon, I'll stick." Stuck with this illness.
It's tough sticking to a regime. Plus juniors sitting here necking it.
Was more but I can't be arsed repeating it, cause I'm sad.
Can ya whistle with me - The Life of Brian :- Always look on the......🎶🙃
Three Rider & Bell whistles. A 1941 Aussie Thunderer, Aussie Thriller and a 1942 Aussie tube whistle. We also have a Military issue 1942 Premier Wire Works Melbourne Australia whistle. 👍
Did you ever live in a tree house? Only asking cause I lived in a few. Actually built a very basic house in a tree from scratch, where the high tide would lap under my floor and manta rays would do flips a few meters out, magic...
No - no tree houses - but did sleep in a garden shed when our parents small hotel was full....these days social services would have taken them to court - but it was “OK” - hurricane lamp for light - and heating ...,
No Jal, it was your original post, so you're more than welcome.
Not weird to me.....as a child I used to have a dream where I was stuck in a drain with green algae all around me and a grating stopping me from escaping. I always woke up before I died, and I kind of miss it.
I dreamt once I was being escorted by two guards, one either side with onlookers, to the gas chamber... a feeling of being trapped, and inevitability. Awoke before I was put in...
Many of my dreams were always as real as real. I once fell from a building, didn't wake up, hit the road, didn't get hurt, not even any pain. So, from then on (dreaming), I used to deliberately fall from great heights, but never be hurt, it was great fun.
Yes Jal, but I always woke up before I died....must be my Guardian Angel.
My main fear was of drowning in the drain. I always wondered that if I didn't wake up, then I must have died.
I had lot's of other weird dreams as well, but that one was the most frequent......and I knew when I was in the dream, that I would wake up....sort of a dream within a dream.
Its a stone's throw from us outback, but have to go walkabout to get to the Asian Express. I could make a hole in the bush, however I dare say my neighbour would take a fence. 😜
Hahahaha - wow if you can remember dreams you are very lucky - well not always! The fact that you can dream is something- it is rare for me even now 15 months post..
I seem to mostly remember fragments these days, in my ol' age lol
I noticed that you've post surgery. How do you figure there's a connection with dreams? Wellness, perhaps!!! I hope all is well for you and improving mate
Ahh well the thing is that post TP - I never dreamt at all - loads of hallucinations but not dreams.... there is a difference but can’t explain it lucidly 😕. Then over the months dreams did come back very very slowly. Now I might dream about once a week 😀. Yes, I know I’m probably the odd one out - odd being the operative word 🙂...
Interesting... Odd eh! But isn't that just different? I like odd, mostly due to 'my' apparent oddness, and get this, I'm supposed to be 'difficult' as well
Slimeball - Green slime is lack of trust.. Whilst trapped is frustration. Islamic green is fear of wrongdoing🤔
Don't search Hidden dreaming web site it redirected me to spam, a fake competition. I smelt a rat but when trying to delete it alleged my phone was infected.
Yeah, and then they want to scan for viruses and charge mega bucks to fix the alleged problem. Once, I engaged the 'free' scan and it said I had like, 64 infected files. Well, needless to say, I have never bought the repair program and never lost any files as a result.
What's happened to our world...where deception is so prevalent
1st ever card I ordered was for Florida Disneyland. It arrived to late. Envelope was never opened card never signed until someone somewhere helped themselves to £1,150.00 using an i-pad. 👎
They can use a skimmer through a wallet in your trousers, or purse in your man bag if you've got one🤣🤣🤣, so an envelope would be no problem. Get one of those skim proof sleeves to protect your cards.....simples.
You know, I've never actually researched that skimmer trick. I wondered why the financial institutions hadn't sent out a flyer to warn all their customers???
I've got one of those sleeves in my back pack, but one in the wallet or hand/shoulder bag would be more convenient
I had my card skimmed by a shop worker a few years ago. It was just before a trip to Canada, so was easy to prove to the bank that is wasn't me. The bastards spent about£1800 in one day on luxury stuff, while we were out of the country, and I got it all back.Now my bank text's me a "once only code" to my mobile, for larger purchases....works well.
Ok, well, so it is true. Hmmm, that's a good idea re the code. I've got a pretty high credit limit, so I'll look into getting one too! Guess I've been lucky, or just didn't know how my card was accessed. Rather than large amounts, there have been smaller, monthly purchases that could be easily missed.
I mean, who's so pedantic as to run through every purchase, every month? ME, usually, though I miss a month occasionally
I agree. I made a purchase recently and made sure I read all the small print; yet, out came came the money. And like I said, I didn't pick it up until the second month :-I
The banks are petty cool about these things, as they have never refused to reimburse me...
Yeah, some of the free anti-virus etc I've tried is good, though I'll give you the 'nod 32', and was told some are better than others...
Yep, some want to take over your PC...very invasive. The freebie ones do like to give you PC health warnings...broken registry files, slow boot up etc, but they just want you to go for the paid version...no chance😁😁😁
True true, there's always a trade off. And they do keep sayin' how their 'full version' will protect you further...I always wondered if that was the case, or just marketing...Yeah, just marketing
It was about 25 years ago, when I had it, and it slowed up the Desktop PC so much, and made it almost unusable. I built the Desktop myself to get the fastest I could for my 3D Cad programs, and had to change it to Avast.
I still use it today, along with Malwarebytes for trojan protection.
Think we are more susceptible to those made in China?
I've put Av..t on the shelf since our bank rolled out free security for the 1st yr. I assume renewal will be optional then revert to free. Bytes free is a good 2nd layer. 🖥️💻⌨️
Do you mean AVG? I used to use that as well, but they kept chucking up "Buy Me" options all the time, so I ditched them. My ISP has a built in antivirus, so if any nasties get through them, my 2 should sort them out.
I wouldn't use Kaspersky even if they tortured me......I didn't mean it Mr Putin, honest ( just in case they are listening)🤣🤣🤣By Chinese, do you mean Huawei ?
Avast you mentioned, sure they bought AVG. Both a bit too heavy with in app purchases/adds. 360 Security & Qihoo 360 are two of too many Chinese software groups.
Yip some reviews no longer rate K... Putin the boot in. 👎
The sexy women posed near, or on, Commandos in Norton magazine advertisements can still be visualized nearly half a century later by red blooded Aussie males who have survived since that era. 👍
Ok, very sporty...I never went in for that style. I used to restore old English bikes which I liked the look and sound.
My current ride is a Harley 1200 sportster, and while there's plenty of sun here, I've a hindering hip. The physio says I'd be crazy to ride in under 3mths...Well, I told her that I am a little crazy already, which doesn't really help my case lol
You, crazy, jaljaylimer ?, never would have thought that! A Harley - tried one - loved it - but out of my price range.🙁. It is the sound for me that does it. Sound haha...👍👍👍👍
I'm not surprised, however, you must be delusional not to see it...only kidding aren't most ppl a little that way??? Yeah, the sound, but only with all the pollution/sound deadening gear ripped out...
After having to sell the Norton, I tried most makes, but the HD sportster was the most comfortable, chics bike or no....
Really, but there're diff styles altogether. Oh, ok, maybe just tryin' to take a slice of the market.
You know, I'll talk to anyone, but the guys ridin' those sporty machines said it's unusual for Harley ppl to talk to'm... But we're all bikers...aren't we?!!!
It's s..t, but get this, I'm even ostracised by the Harley crew cause I ride a 'chics' bike... cause the women usually ride a sportster, either a 883 or the 1200. It's the smallest machine they make.
I couldn't believe it... I bet they differentiate anyway, like, one gotta clean stock machine and another has wanker sculls all over his... hahaha
The funny thing about the worst HD s/nobs is usually it's a new rider with more dough than brains and the Harley is their first bike. I don't have time for 'em.
Motorcycle sales are down around the world because many riders are big-bike s/nobs, while the industry has failed to reach out to women, minorities and millennials.
Cruising for a bruising here - Track day s/nobs. 💪👎
Yep, so true, re the first biker, I knew a kid who bought an 1100 Suzi as soon as he had his learners. No-one had to endure his arrogance for long, tragic needless to say. I thought at the time, 'What were his parents thinking!', sad.
It's the image... for kids, women or ol' dudes sitting astride a bike with training wheels just doesn't fit it...
Ha, I'm bruised frequently, ego and physically, usually from losing balance when I'm not really movin', embarrassing
It appears that "Always look on the bright side of Life", is top of the most popular songs played at funerals.....I can't go with the choice of the masses.
I found out as it was on my Listening Books app, as Eric Idle has written a book of the same name which I must listen to. Ling Love lysdexia🤣🤣🤣
Congrats on one hole year, and no worse is good mate. You're a battler no doubt, keep on the upside down, I know it helps. Plz don't take this as discouragement, but the last three times I withdrew from substances, it was more than a year.
I really don't expect this time to be any diff, but take heart, nothing ever stays the same Hmmm, I think I can still whistle...
I love Celebrations. But not even allowed the choc variety, sugar, salt grog, coffee or a cheeky fag off the menu.
Life of Brian - He carried Rescue Remedy used as an excuse as to why his aftershave smelt of intoxicating liquor at work. Poor kid hit it sore, lost the books, car, job & wife. He lived on Church handouts (food bank) & his savings but still had enough to drink Vod by the pint glass. Buried at 44 within 18 mths. Sobering. 🤔
“referring to a play in which the ball is thrown from the area covered by the left fielder to either home plate or first base, surprising the runner.”...the right bit speaks for itself....
See, 🎼Yes Sir, I can Google 🎼 Can you Google too 🎼 🎼You would Google too if it happened to you🎼
Sorry fella, it's getting that way I'll have trouble with writing a decent post if it's too soon like.
After all, who want to read about my infected wound, trouble with my neighbours, the much needed wheel bearings for my motorhome and not to mention these depressing, boring digs???
Of course, all the above affects my will power to abstain from the booze.
But hey, I'm heartened by your encouragement and desire to read more of my prattle. Hmmm, or is it just so the individual replies are easier to follow!!!
Go for it. We all know, I think, it is just a bit of fun - well sort of - once we get into facebook mode that is...... and I sit here thinking about the sand, sea and se..... nsible things as an escape from reality and dreary old weather here 👍👍
Yes indeedy BUT I had to surrender my 🇧🇧 citizenship when I worked for a Defence company over her a few years ago. In retrospect it was a big mistake.....
Your 50, 60, 70 day diaries have put me off writing my embellished 12 months post in a couple of weeks’ time. Nothing much happened really, well not that much ...
Thanks. I’ve done a few sporty things, nothing major, in 2019 which I wouldn’t have been able to manage with a daily hangover. I don’t want to come across as boastful, not helpful, so I’ll have to think about it.
But you’re right in that people really do want to read and are inspired by real-life stories with all the ups and downs.
I have to say I was totally flummoxed this year to read about people giving up alcohol for years and becoming super fit and doing all sorts of top stuff only to start drinking again and ending up in a very bad way indeed. Those people who took the time to write that certainly helped me. I would have been guaranteed to try drinking again if I hadn’t read such stories . Scary stuff but very well received by many.
Here are some real sporting heroes, JU, and it’s more your sort of sport too! You could probably get a game. It was a documentary on UK TV about a physically disabled rugby league team going to Aus. I’ll definitely watch on catch up.
I don’t watch rugby at all, but I played at school and uni. When I stopped the booze and got quite fit, I realised I needed a sport to keep me motivated and went along to my local rugby club for a training session. I was by far the weediest there. There were no beer bellies to be seen, just big guys who despite being 40+ were fit and agile. I’m sure I could have worked on my skills, but I’d have needed to replace the 22Kg of fat I’d lost with the same amount of muscle!
There is touch rugby I suppose, but c’mon I could’ve played that as a drunk. No rugby again this lifetime.
There've been some smaller guys, like our Alfie Langer. He's retired now, but man, could he run. Never liked Rugby that much, played a bit, and it's a great way to wear out knees, hips and heads.
If only we could replace fat with muscle, though age is against me I'm afraid.
Finally watched (three quarters of) Take His Legs, the documentary about a UK disabled rugby team who went to Aus.
My first thought was that I used to look like Russell Crowe does now! What has he been doing? Clearly not exercise ☹️
The documentary was so so. They only had an hour or so of air time I admit, but I’d have liked to hear more about some of the players’ backgrounds as some of them seemed a great laugh despite being through a lot. The system they have of different coloured shorts for each level of disability is a brilliant idea. The documentary would’ve been better as a six parter.
People who become disabled is a whole new topic. An ex-Royal Marine near me is in a wheelchair after being injured in Afghanistan. He’s not doing well at all mentally. I once helped him into his chair after he fell out (drunk) and was given a f*** you for my efforts. Water off a duck to me, but he will have been a supreme sporty type in his day and to have that taken from along with his mates and life, I’m not surprised he’s bitter.
The coloured shorts is a great idea, lets you know if you can really hard tackle'm I still might have a look tho...interesting.
I guess we all know even death could be the outcome of a military career...tho we just don't think it'll happen to us...
Some cope quite well, some, but the ones I know, don't...esp those cut down young.
As with one guy I helped who had fallen, he'd lost a leg in nam (mine). He was drunk, lashed me with invective and wanted to fight...man!!! I just walked away...
And that Alan Hills, he’s not well known in the UK. I didn’t even notice he had a disability until he showed his skinny lower leg and little foot. Good on him for doing that, though.
I had to re-read your post a couple of times. It reads like the drunk guy lost your leg in Vietnam! It’s not for everyone trying to help, so well done for helping. I’m sure when he sobered, he’d have been grateful you helped,
Yes, yes, of course you knew what I meant. But I get into these serious moods, especially of late, where I just don't see the obvious, sorry :-I
Brandy butter!!! That's your decision. Personally, it wouldn't worry me at all. Though if I ate the whole 500g/1 pound at one sitting, well, perhaps then!
And yes, today is the Day 80, I think... I just don't feel like writing zip...tidak bagus
You know, I was once criticised on this forum (well, maybe more than once) for writing in German to another poster even though German was his native language. What can I say but tak suka tak apa?
Yes, well, I guess others are reading and want to know, though you are replying to a particular person, yes?! Still, there's consideration for others...tidak apa apa!
Perhaps I need to modify my English vocabulary, ergo? NOT!
* There’s a famous cartoonist in Malaysia called Lat. One of his cartoons shows a western tourist arriving at a Malaysian hotel and giving his name “Terry McArthy”. The receptionist looks up and replies “Sama-Sama”.
As you’re not starting a day 80 thread ☹️ I’ll keep this one going.
Malay and Indonesian have quite a lot of differences. I wanted to learn Malay, but as there aren’t many books available, I thought I’d try Indonesian as there are more books, etc. out there.
I haven't read any posts as such, I've my own empiricism and it's painful
I did it all, got super fit, considered training for the black belt I almost got 25yrs before, went to uni studying Psyche and worked for 6yrs as a group facilitator for people with mental health and addiction issues... Still, I relapsed and knew exactly what I was doing, but the circumstances were just too intense.
Multiple traumas have an accumulative affect...just too intense, and I was alone...
NOT this time tho, I can't afford it, it would kill me...
Please write your experiences Coco, your achievements too
It literally makes me teary eyed when I read of those accomplishments. For I see the wider screen, the huge effort that has preceded the achievement; the will, the sacrifice, the endurance and the feeling of elevated health, self-worth and the esteem of peers.
NOT boastful Coco, cause I WANT to hear of your sporty things!!! And I'm sure everyone else would want to as well
You’ve got something, a lot, to aim for when your hip’s fully run in. It’ll be humbling as well. I’m doing sports with some people who are twenty years younger. Obviously they’re miles ahead, but I do OK and surprisingly don’t regret the “lost time”.
In fact, here’s something you’ll be able to relate to. As my knees did almost no exercise for 20 years, I could be running in my 50s (just entered that decade), 60s and more.
I’ve got a sporting event coming up but not until April 2020. I might wait until then 🏊♂️🏃🏻♀️🚲
You made me laugh Coco hahaha, cause I CAN beat that... Last Sunday I changed the rear inner and outer wheel bearing on the motorhome. It took 4hrs cause of me hip. I know I shouldn't have done that, big job, but I was going stir craaaazy... :0
I see the effort, the motivation it took for you to do that Yes, you may or may not have been able to buy a new one, but what of the feeling of triumph, not to mention the hands on experience!!! Can't buy that, hey!
A new bike would only have been £300 😅 I just wanted a bike to go shopping with and maybe cycle/fall off a few hills. This episode won’t be going in the 12 month epic, but at least it’s a decent bike now (and no one will steal it). If I get into cycling, I can also buy a better one.
I have visions of you crouching on the ground to get to these bearings! Four hours sounds quite speedy.
Ha, I've got a push bike no-one would steal either, needs some TLC
I think it's pretty cool, what you did, enjoy...
Not too much crouching, I had a low swivel seat. Don't think I could've done it otherwise, I had to knock out and then replace the cones as well, which was most of the tedious work.
Well, thanks re the time, but I knew what I was doing and had the tools to do it. Also, I had no nasty surprises, smooth all the way
Sorry your feeling depressed! Here's a few direct joke's from my caring granddaughter Aluna who's aged 6.5 sends these to you !,
Why do giraffes have long necks? Because there feet are smelly! 😂😂
A thief broke into my house last night ....so I woke up to help him search ! 😂
Why was the giraffe late for school? Because he got stuck in a giraffic jam😂😂😂
PS
My granddaughter was playing with my phone and was then reading my messages ! She just happens to be bright as a button and top student in her year and recently won a medal for the most caring student who look's after others! I mentioned you were depressed as she said let's send him a few jokes ......
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ALT and GGT - alcohol related
