My wife has been making some wine with the glut of fruit we have had off the trees and I was wondering if the wine produced this way is any better or worse for the liver, interested to know considering its organic!
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Hi, not sure if this answers your question but I once asked my consultant about low alcohol / alcohol free, even where there is 0.05 abv and he didn't hesitate in saying no. I even avoid it in food.
Why would you have any alcohol if you have a bad liver, home made or not??
Appreciate the comment but that wasn't really the question that I wanted answers to.
Alcohols alcohol no matter how the wines made. Would be nice if it was one of your five a day but unfortunately it's not.
Probably no worse, since it contains no sulphites, but the only alcohol that's good alcohol from a hepatological perspective is NO alcohol.
I'm afraid that alcohol, whether made by you organically or by the big manufacturers is really a no-no when you already have liver damage. The liver doesn't discriminate on source or origin of a toxin lol. Sorry. You can still make it for your friends tho!
Thanks for the replies, it was just an interesting debate me and my wife were having, in reality, I suppose that's what did for the monks back in the day with all the mead and stuff (assuming they partook of their produce).
Got high on the fumes yesterday in the kitchen as it was all fermenting!
Eh? alcohol is alcohol isnt it. Stop drinking if you have liver issues, its not difficult.
you know when you wished you had never posted something, the post was intended as a light hearted debate about if there was any difference between the mass produced alcohol and naturally produced homebrew. Not sure where the implication was that I was going to drink gallons of the stuff and needed help for that. I am sure chemically that alcohol is alcohol, I was of the opinion that mass produced booze has more synthetic substances in them that could harm the body as well as the alcohol.
Appreciate your sentiment Riverdweller and its probably a fair point but I feel your comment is not really in the spirit, I did address my drinking issues a year ago and am doing what my doctor advised (and the helpline on the BLT site say), and incidentally feel better for it, to say to the wider audience on here that its not difficult to stop drinking is insensitive, I was able to do that like many people on here but some people do really struggle to kick it and need sensitive support and advice. In some cases, stopping drinking as a step change can be harmful.
There are alot of people on this site that are seriously ill with liver disease and/or because of their alcohol abuse, so to be honest a light hearted comment like yours is not really for this site. You probably would've got the response you expected on facebook.
Afraid to say I am one that struggles to give it up , gave it up for three months but started again since then had 3 chemical detox one in hospital, but again one it, at present on a slow reduction plan. It effects everyone dofferently and shpild not be said its simple!
"was any difference between the mass produced alcohol and naturally produced homebrew" - well yes, in the sense that your homebrew is chemical free, made in smaller quantities etc, but its still fermented and it still has to be processed by your liver. Not only does your liver filter out toxins from alcohol, it does over 500 other things as well, most of which people are unaware of until it goes wrong. It helps with processing food, combating infections, balancing hormones, storing vitamins, etc etc the list goes on. Deserves a lot of TLC in my view in order to get a long healthy lifespan from it!
The truth is I bet it would be better for you if we were allowed to indulge now and again, especially since it's from your own fruit and from your wife's loving labour. Sadly though ,we can't. I have just been diagnosed with Hep C , it's only been 3 months since I stopped drinking , I wasn't an alcoholic but I was dependent upon it to various degrees throughout my life. Rather than negotiating with myself I just decided to eliminate it from my life altogether, which is tough because my whole social life revolved around beer and wine. Now I just laugh it off and say I've drank enough for two lifetimes and now it's somebody else's turn, shame really as I just bought a winemaking kit. One thing I have started doing though is making fruit smoothies, perhaps you could give that a go ? Not the same I know but you would get the satisfaction of making it from your own fruit. I agree with you about the insensitivity, it's easier for some people and then some people get overly zealous. Change is hard, all my mates still drink and it annoys me that I can't, truth is though I would want more than one. I bet you could swirl it round your mouth though and spit it out.............but that might be even more frustrating. Good luck and try the juice.
Coastiephoto, I am fortunate with my condition, I have been advised that I can drink small amounts so I am better than most. My general tipple nowadays is becks blue and the koppaberg alcohol free, the becks blue has the beer taste but needs to be really cold.
Like you, I didn't regard myself as alcoholic but when I looked into it I was probably classed as dependant. I don't have a problem going out and having non alcoholic stuff, the thing that gets me is it is the same price as alcoholic drinks, a crate of blue is about the same as stella.
As you say change is hard, I feel I managed it well but have the support of my family, some don't have that and I can see how easy it would be to fall back into the habit again. The biggest and best thing for me is waking up and not having a hangover, I wonder why I put up with that so many years...
Take Care
K
Firstly NO ALCOHOL. A second point I have is that commercially produced wine will state how much alcohol is contained therein where home produced plonk could vary no matter even if it would be considered more organic. The fact of it being more organic is debatable. Would you necessarily know which conditions the fruit had been in (eg. Near heavy traffic) during its growth.