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... when the run view, the purpose of the run, becomes blurred.

Well...grab a drink and maybe a snack, find a comfy spot and settle down, because this is a ramble. Not just any ramble, but a Floss ramble! You have been warned.

This is about running and as CB says so often, absolutely, not about running.

I have not posted for a while; other than my regular forum posts and my very short, ( for me) HU10 report.

Why?

Well, a couple of reasons; time constraints, the fear that the overall essence of the reports would be very underwhelming and depressing, and most importantly, I realise now, that the report would demonstrate, openly and publicly that I was in very grave danger of losing the purpose of my runs. A scary thought

A post of PeggySusi , which I read a day or so back, and the reply I received back, to my comment , gave me a real jolt. I had sort of realised it, but sometimes, we do have the ability , even unknowingly to push things down or mask over them. I feel now that is what I was doing

So, I hear you ask, what is that all important purpose? For me.. it is and always has been Joy. Pure joy.

Runs do, of course, have a myriad of purposes...each of us, as I have said many, many times are wonderfully different. We run because.... and the end of that sentence? It is different for each one of us. I have different reasons on different runs, but, entwined in every single run I make, joy has always been there.

Currently, I have no clear sight of my constant companion...not lost sight of it, totally, but the view is slightly cloudy. Joy is there, but at times, one step behind, or just around that next corner.

I would, very much like joy back at my side... shoulder to shoulder , heart to heart, as I run my favourite and new routes.

I have to be honest, and this is probably another reason for not rambling, I have been struggling a tad. That old gremlin of overthinking, has been wheedling its way into my head... and I have been using all the strategies I have to banish it. My runs were in danger of being run, for a completely wrong purpose , which is where I came really unstuck a few years ago.

I am, as many of my long- time and long-suffering friends here, know , Bluebirdrunner , bless her, particularly... very good at dishing out advice... words of so called, running wisdom ( ha ha )! I am far less skilled at tasting those words!

But, ( always a but), I have been running... and that is so important, because for me and many, this sort of turmoil, may mean, all running stops.

I have had a lot of very wet runs, less dry ones and a few, beautifully sunny and warm ones.

Many of them have not been long runs, many have had to be fitted in to a very tight schedule, many almost indecently short. But a run is a run, and a few have had moments, where location, memories and running style has made them very happy runs.., I have focused on the positive and refused to let negativity get the upper-hand.

My regular core strength and stamina exercise keeps the body fit... my mind needs more. YWA helps... my walk/talk counselling... now every six weeks or so, also. My writing and my painting, too. My runs with joy, though, are a part of my life, not the most important part, but hugely so... I want those runs back.

Yesterday I ran. I had not got a lot of time to spare, the rain had been torrential , but I decided to run in one of my favourite places. My beloved fields. Likely to be thick with mud and heavy going, but I needed to be there. I was going to run 'nekkie', but at the last moment decided to take CB and I Need this Run with me...

It was sunny and although a chill in the early morning air, I set out hopefully. Heading around the Close, quiet this morning...folks away, asleep or simply making the most of the school holidays.

I passed no one, as I rounded the Crescent towards the hill, CB murmuring encouragingly, in my ear. Just before I reached the main road, CB spoke … “ The best way to keep moving, is for you to keep moving... so I am going to go quiet now..” and he did !

He stayed quiet... and never spoke again, throughout the entire run; a quick check, but the run was still there, recording my steps, my distance and time elapsed. Just no CB.

I kept on running... down and then up, again past, McFitty 's Rookery wood, the trees a mass of thick, green foliage, ivy twined and bramble wrapped... The rooks long gone, but somewhere, high and unseen, the unmistakable, crystal clear outpourings of a blackbird. My feet were light , my breathing steady, these gentle inclines hold no worries for me... and along to my fields.

Gravel track gives way to the grassed trail that stretches to the next village... Fields full of buttercups, my majestic tree, familiar, solid, reassuring... bird song, grey cloud-laden sky... and oddest of all, as well as, no CB... the field track was dry. Hard-baked and non -muddy. I could hardly believe it as my feet seemed to fly, hardly touching the ground as I made my steady way to the half way turning point. Making the deserted siding rails of the steam railway, the overgrown sleepers seemed to epitomize my inner feelings... the track is still there... just hidden from view.

Just a quick photo shot of the growing field and time to turn.

I have plenty of fuel in my tank and the evolving run, has given me the urge to move a tad faster as I head back towards the road...steps light through the barely damp grass and deep inside my head, faint stirrings of awareness... I sense rather than see the cloudiness clearing slightly.., and as I make the road and the downward stretch to the railway station I do have a smile on my lips. An alert as the run ends, I have completed the run... No great speed, no great distance reached, but so, so, so much gained.

We cannot capture joy...

Joy is huge-spirited emotion, all-giving and full of largesse.

Joy is that firework-burst, on the treadmill, reflected in the shine-sparkle mirrors of the gym. The steady, clockwork- echo footfall in the sky-scrapered streets of the city and it is in the gasped exhilaration of the last metre of that never-ending uphill slog, to see the world spread before us, ready for the taking.

Joy is there... not quite within reach yet, there., right beside me and within me, nonetheless. All I need to do, is to open myself to finding it once more.

Oldfloss xx

PS

The June Quest? Top of my list... Finding the joy. :)

PPS.

CB was not sulking , he knew I needed, me time.

PPPS.

Thank you for listening, I need to find time to ramble a lot more often xxx

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linda9389 profile image
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😘

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to linda9389

Good to know that you are there x

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linda9389Graduate10 in reply to Oldfloss

We are never alone xxx

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Gthants60minGraduate

Lovely. This is something I mentioned in a reply the other day - the joy. With my misbehaving bowels running has been no fun for a few weeks, but I ran yesterday in the afternoon for 36 minutes with minor discomfort, but no issues. I don't think it's going to be practical to do afternoon running if summer ever arrives, so I'm hoping to be able to get back to running how I like. Running somewhere else other than around local streets in close proximity to facilities will be nice. And once I can go further, then I can at least run in country parks if not actual countryside. Have enjoyed running in silence recently, with no NRC or music. But I'd like to try another Headspace run once I get the ... headspace for it.

Hope your running continues to bering you joy.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Gthants

You did indeed, I could not quite remember where else I had read a reference to joy! You have much to look froward to and the country parks and the inner parks... all wonderful locations...

I am glad that you are feeling so much better... long may it continue for you... and thank youx

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I was wondering if all was ok in your running world Floss.

Runs squeezed in amongst all of the other more important stuff, losing their place in your 'time to unwind and enjoy' list.

Over the hill and far away in your fields is where your joy was waiting, where your thoughts turn poetic as you take in the nature around you and formulate your wonderful 'ramble reports'. No mud to weigh you down, and CB giving you headspace to just see and feel and there was the joy, giving you light feet and light thoughts.

I'm so glad you chose that run and thank you for sharing your thoughts, this is quite an emotional read, and has made me think... am I finding the joy?

I believe I am, I enjoy being outside and challenging myself, taking stock when needed, but always finishing the chosen run.

I see the trees and the wild flowers in the grassy verges and squirrels scampering, and it feels good to be part of it all...

I will happily join you for the June Quest to find the joy as you can never have too much joy in your life. ❤️💙❤️

Happy joyful running and more rambles please

🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃💚xxx

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Bluebirdrunner

Hello ! You are so right... you can never have too much joy, and we have so much ,in our lives, don't we. The times we have met in those races that we laugh and chat our way through them, are so special and holding on to the joy felt then can sustain me even at the trickiest times.

My runs have got out of kilter, but I shall carry on, as and when and just enjoy the runs I am doing. If I can keep a longer Sunday run, then that will help too. Yes... Pigling Bland style...over the hills and far away... the joy, dancing just out of reach... butt not for ever:)

You do feel the joy, i am sure and how you are running right now, you deserve too, and you share that joy with us all... be it yoga reports or your run reports...

You and I will Quest together... and together we will spread the joy ...thank you so much xxx

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BluebirdrunnerGraduate10 in reply to Oldfloss

Diolch yn fawr Floss 😉,

You have held me up and kept me going many times, ever present on my runs alone, and actually so on our Monsal adventures...

Emotionally too countless times.

We will find the joy in our runs together, hopefully you may carve out that Sunday longer run time and let your thoughts flow, and maybe a ramble report will follow.

June must bring more settled weather, the hills are waiting for you to pass lightly by.

🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️❤️xxx

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Bluebirdrunner

Thank you x

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Lovely Oldfloss keep sight of the joy ❤️

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Yesletsgo

Indeed,,, it is there... I just need to refocus... xxx

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drl212

I've been listening to The Rest is History podcasts - HIGHLY RECOMMEND! But sometimes I just like to turn it off and enjoy the sound breathing and the views...

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to drl212

I mostly run without anything... just me and the world.. I only use the NRC app for specific runs

The sound of Nature is enough... and my runs have filled many running diaries since I began in 2015..

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“the track is still there... just hidden from view.”🙏

Oh, what a wonderful Floss ramble - please never stop ! 🙂 I am so glad you found what you needed on this run and thank you so much for sharing it with us. It genuinely made me well up as I read it - so beautiful and moving.

Running is that ‘special thing’ for so many of us - and certainly there is a very special joy always waiting on the trails, I think. Glad you felt it this time.🥰🏃‍♀️

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Sandraj39

I am on the way Sandra.. it may take a short while but I do know, as MissUnderstanding says, the way will become clearer. Those first tingling feelings were there... it is coming... I know it . Thank you so much for your kindness x

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MissUnderstandingAdministratorGraduate10

Sometimes you just have to keep putting one foot in front of the other and trust that the joy will come back. You’re doing everything right. You’ll find your way and all of us here will be cheering you on…just out of view but definitely there ❤️

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to MissUnderstanding

Thank you my friend... to know that you are there for me, watching me and cheering me on... it means a great deal. Like minded in so many ways, I know that you are right... all I have to do, is believe it... and I am getting there.. x

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Wonderful post Oldfloss and very thought provoking. I think I feel contentment on my runs. 'Run while you can' is my motto. I 'm 50 and hope I can for the next 30 years and beyond. If for whatever reason I can't then I'll know I tried when I could. It doesn't matter the time or distance so much but running has become part of me and part of who I am. I'm very very grateful that I get to run and can run. Whatever the run holds, I don't really ever know until I step out of the door. That's my contentment right there...I'm immediately at peace because I've committed to it and shown courage (not knowing the outcome but doing it anyway).

You've got your courage right there with your joy. You don't always necessarily have to see them or feel them...you just need to know that they are there with you each and every time you step out and commit. They're like gifts in boxes that open from time to time. They are there but they're not always opened. Keep writing, rambling and posting while you can. Keep opening the boxes. We're here with you and blowing positivity down the North Sea to you 🌬💚

PS Bluebirdrunner is an absolutely incredible lady.

Oh and maybe try 'Smiling Mind' A brilliant mindfulness app. I really like it.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to GTFC

Thanks for the reply... yes... contentment... a strong word... along the lines of the well known adage, "...one day I shall not be able to run... today is not that day " . PeggySusi 's post was very much in tune with your thoughts.. running as and when, shorter runs, walking if need be...the sweet runs not the pressured runs.

I am grateful, as are you, l for every single run I make and the fact that despite the odds, I have managed to come back again...I have just for some reason, allowed myself to get a tad bowed down but things.

Thanks you, so much for your kind words... I shall hold them close as I move forwards. Gift boxes.. there to be opened... a bit like my memory jar:) I can feel that wind of support blowing down towards me, and it feels oh, so good.

Bluebirdrunner .. without her... I may just have fallen by the wayside, more than once... and I count myself as so fortunate to have her friendship. on and off the forums x

I shall try that app.

Oldfloss x

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skysue16Graduate10 in reply to GTFC

I found your reply very interesting…….good for thought thank you GTFC

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skysue16Graduate10

Sounds a great run and lovely descriptions. A lovely, thought provoking Floss ramble 😊 thank you

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to skysue16

Good to share, thank you, and know that I am amongst my friends who understand my feelings x

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PeggySusi

For some reason the French term “joie de vivre” came to mind when I read your post, maybe when you mentioned the song of the blackbird.. which in my garden seems to compete with the robin for the happiest song.. I’m glad you found time to write, and a smile.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to PeggySusi

Oh yes... that little bobby Robin... who can disagree with you...joie de vivre indeed.. the waterfall cascade of song, will lift any heart:)

I have you to thank... and you have no idea how much. I determined to write my own running post and I have determined to be kinder to myself and just take the time to enjoy each run however short and focus on the joys I feel.

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PeggySusi in reply to Oldfloss

Running and life, with negatives and positives a lot of the time.. just as @SweatyHettie says, that’s certainly been true of my life anyway.. I’m glad if the tricks I have learned to get me through can help others..tbh I think it stems from a young childhood spent either reading books like Heidi, What Katy Did, and Pollyanna, or racketing around alone and unsupervised in the fields and woods near home.. (before my accident). I think I must be trying to rediscover those childhood joys now, in running. 🤣

It’s a trick I’ve used for a long time, to focus on the positive.. I remember having some very unpleasant dental work when my middle child was a baby (in those days when post natal treatment was free!). I would sit in the chair and, very deliberately, think about how much I loved my adorable baby daughter waiting for me at home.

Having said all that.. it can’t always work, and sometimes you just have to let yourself wallow and try to get through it.. like a bad run.. but not lose hope for a better run tomorrow.

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SweatyHettie

What a thought provoking post and I feel quite emotional Oldfloss because you are so giving to everyone. I have so appreciated the times when you and others on this forum have given me the confidence and courage to carry on when things are tough. To think of every run as a win and as CB reminds us, to be a good coach to myself and celebrate that I got out the door.

I absolutely agree with you that there has to be joy in running. There are other reasons to run which I kind of count as boring/ less glamorous but also worthy - running for fitness, to try and keep off the pounds, headspace, staving off the demons of old age like osteoporosis. But those worthy but boring reasons could equally be met in other ways- if the joy isn’t there why run? I always say to people when they are struggling, you have to enjoy it first and foremost, otherwise it will always be a chore.

I can’t say I enjoy every run, there are ‘struggle runs’ ( another CB favourite) and on those days if I don’t actually enjoy the running I do enjoy the run- the scent of honeysuckle, new cygnets on the creek, a lovely sunrise, calm seas. What was it I said the other day? The smell of rain on dry earth - I looked up the word is it petrichor or something ? Anyway what I’m trying to say rather badly is that I try and take positives from every run and as our guru says it’s about running but it’s not about running.

I do so hope that elusive friend will be back alongside you soon Floss, thank you for sharing your truth so openly, you really are inspirational. We are never alone on here and CB is always there with a word or two of wisdom or as you say,if he ditches you it’s because he knew you needed time to figure things out - what a man!

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to SweatyHettie

You did indeed say that... " ...the smell of rain on dry earth... "I remember reading it and thinking... yes, someone here who is feeling it... just like me:) It is Petrichor... a Greek word:)

Taking positives, even in a struggle run, and I feel we all have runs that are for some reason, not easy...is a good thought...accepting, learning and moving on... always remembering that a run was done..

We all have out reasons and mine are very similar to your own... for me especially keeping this ancient body in as tip top condition as is possible.. for me and for my family:) I am determined to take a leaf out of PeggySusi 's book and just take the short runs as part of my routine...the longer runs yes, if and when, but simply finding the joy again in any run I do.

You make an interesting point too... not enjoying the running, but enjoying the run, That is something I need to ponder on...and I do understand what you are saying... GTFC made that point too, in a way in the lovely, kind reply to me... "...I don't really ever know until I step out of the door. That's my contentment right there...I'm immediately at peace because I've committed to it and shown courage (not knowing the outcome but doing it anyway)."

Thank you so much for this and your words... I forget sometimes to come and talk to my friends here, when I need support. I get wrapped up in the other things I do here.., I shall be appearing more. xxx

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SweatyHettie in reply to Oldfloss

😊

Yes and I will do the same , follow PeggySusi ‘s advice and just think of the short runs as part of the routine.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to SweatyHettie

Sounds perfect to me... I am just out on a short one... see where I get to :)

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what a wonderful post! As some know I have been suffering from Long Covid which has made running (and often walking) almost impossible and definitely not a joy. Alan and I have just come back from 5 wonderful weeks away in our little, 17 year old Motorhome. We travelled all over Scotland, visiting Alan’s homeland and reviving many memories, whilst making many new ones. Slowly, I began to feel the old me coming back, maybe not as fit as I was but by taking it slowly we managed a few hill walks and lots of beautiful’rambles’.

Home now I have resolved to take pleasure in what I can do rather than worry about what I can’t. The other day I walked one of my old running routes in the forest and even found myself jogging in one of the downhill sections. I was going to repeat C25k but I think for now I’m just going to enjoy the outdoors and let my body and spirit dictate how.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Phdgranny

I know you have and it has been really rough for you...my heart goes out to you...

Your holiday in your tin tent sounds just wonderful... what a lovely trip to make and how good that those first feeling of returning strength must have been !

Yo may not be as fit... but, it is beginning... and the gentle walks and the rambles will all help to build things back...small steps. my friend.

I think you are right to ease back and see what comes... listen to your body and mind. I made a real effort today, I relaxed and just went with the run... myself and the world... and it felt a lot better...thank you so much for your reply... and just keep taking it... what else?

Slow and steady :) We will get there x

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What a lovely thought provoking ramble. I read lots of posts but rarely post myself. I got out of bed this morning thinking about the joy of a run, my clothes laid out last night all ready and then I looked outside, another wet and windy Lincolnshire morning, where has the sun gone? I don't mind getting wet once I have started my run but leaving the house knowing I will be a 'drowned rat' by the end of my warm up walk does not appeal of provide the joy a run should give. The run will wait until later, the anticipation will build for a good run, be that through the joy of just running or the outcome of the run. I do so love reading your rambles and imagining the route you have taken, do keep posting your rmblea as they provide so much joy for so many people. Tha k you Oldfloss .

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to lincolnoldie

Hello and how good to see you here... Yes... just like you.. if I am out when it rains, that is fine... heading out into it? Err, no!

The runs do wait, you are so right...... and I am reminding myself of that now a lot more... and they are all the sweeter for it...

Today on my run, I had sunshine, green fields and buttercups, trees and flowers and even a small cheeky squirrel, who showed off whilst whizzing away from me...

Thanks you for your lovely reply x

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Rabbit561

Feeling the joy isn’t always easy, though on a lovely day and in a beautiful setting perhaps it’s a little easier. We just need to remember to look around us and breathe it all in. When I do that everything settles and I find a smile on my face even when running is tough. Sometimes the more we look for it the harder it is to find though so be gentle and patient with yourself 😊

I’ve been running with Steve Cram on C25K and his mantra is ‘looking good, feeling good’. It doesn’t matter how tough I’m finding the run, the ridiculous idea that I’m looking good - an overweight elderly woman puffing along, - makes me smile . So thank you Steve.

Hope things get easier Oldfloss and it’s good to use the forum for support.

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Rabbit561

It is good to remember to share... I sort of, forgot that too.. I get carried away with folks reports and replying and forget that I am a runner too... these are my friends on the forums.. and many of them know me so well !Being kind to ourselves comes hard sometimes, but after the replies I have had here.. In slept easier and when I ran today... I ran with a lighter heart...

Yes... a smile on the face can really help... and I smiled today too ! Thank you so much for this reply and the reminder x

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Madwife60

the black dog of winter is so real for me - I really struggle to find joy on long grey days and they seem to be lasting longer than ever this year. However Spring has sprung and those new green shoots remind me that there is new life all around wriggling and basking in the sunshine. The great thing for me as I jog along is seeing the small stuff and how I fit in to the big old world. I came across a basking lizard last week just minding his own business on the cliff path and as he scampered away from me for some reason his whole just being there filled me with joy. Such a small thing but maybe he just reminded me that there is sunshine in the gloom even if just for a few seconds - I just need to look for them

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Madwife60

The gray days may take their toll and sometimes, particularly with the harsh weather it is hard to believe that Spring will follow.

Small things can make the biggest difference... your lizard had a tale to tell as he scampered away... a tale of a runner, out there in the wide world...:)

Sunshine on the gloom... I like that a lot... that is one for me to remember.. thank you so, so much x

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You have made me stop and think Floss. What am I doing and why? Working through the plan, further, faster, fitter and stronger are all there at the moment. Yesterday I went out for a one hour recovery run following a 20k run on Monday. An opportunity to stretch the muscles out again and calm things down, but my legs had other ideas. The run was exhilarating, a real buzz, but far quicker than I intended.

The last thing I saw on the run was a beautiful buzzard soaring overhead; maybe it had a message!

When I got to the cafe, all of the tables were taken, but there was a spare seat where, what I took to be (correctly), a grandmother and her last year of primary school grandchild were sitting, so I asked if it was ok to sit there to drink my coffee. What followed was a nice chat, and a story from the youngster about the teacher drawing an outline on the blackboard and asking what it was. There was a chorus of “Butterfly”, but the youngster had said “ but if it was nearly night time, it could have been a moth.” I said that his answer was really thoughtful. It just took me back to times when our own children surprised us and made us smile, and I smiled that smile again. Sometimes the run is just a means of putting us in the right place at the right time for magic to happen. 🙂

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Beachcomber66 🙌

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to Beachcomber66

Just fantastic... the right place at the right time... and thank you for making me think there...

I remember a Sunday morning run... across my fields.. pausing and hearing high above a skylark...the world seemed to just belong to we two in that moment...

Your buzzard... magical... and yes, surely a message there?

Your moments sound to have been very special... and yes... don't small ones have that ability to stop us in our tracks...

Thank you so much for this, and your experiences too...I have felt a lot easier in my mind since yesterday, after sharing my woes! x

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SueAppleRunGraduate1060minGraduate

Refinding the joy .....that's so good, there is joy in life and a special kind of joy in running,

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OldflossAdministrator60minGraduate in reply to SueAppleRun

There is indeed.... and I hope you are finding some new joys x

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