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rolysmateGraduate10
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So a friend asked me if I fancied running in a 10k event and thought maybe, why not.

So I went onto there web site for details and was reading through when I came to a part were it said so if your a runner or "just a jogger" at which point I hit the exit button.

I move in a running motion but I'm not fast but I "run" as fast as I can over the prescribed distance so am I a runner or "just a jogger.

What is the difference, who makes these elitist decisions,some whippity thin racing machine who will probably one day end up as "just a jogger" surely not some little old pot bellied "running" machine like me who trundles along at the fastest pace he/she can.

Why is this elitist distinction needed, is it just to stroke egos

I run therefore I am

End of rant -- well for now!

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mrrun profile image
mrrunGraduate10

I heard that before, relates to speed. Competitive guys look at it that way, events may be classified as such. Who cares...

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10

The Oct 10K I’ve entered only stipulates completing in 90 mins max. I hope I can with all the elite running too!

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

You will..😊

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toOldfloss

Have 4 months to train so no excuses! 😊

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

If I can run 10K in less than 80 minutes... you certainly can... :)

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toOldfloss

I’d be happy with that! 💪🏼💪🏼😎

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

I am.. really... I don't think I have completed 5K in 30 minutes more than a few times, since Graduation??? I only did it then because I thought I had to... duh :) xxxx

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toOldfloss

Well done - my best is 33 and not done it again! I’m moving on to getting 10K under my belt. Look forward to starting Ju-ju’s plan. xx

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

It is brilliant..😏

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ju-ju-Graduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

youve got this.... we will help you reach your goal :)

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toju-ju-

Thank you! Really looking forward to starting! Unintentionally did week 1 this week. But will start officially next weekend. 💪🏼

ju-ju- profile image
ju-ju-Graduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

Yay, you are ahead of the game....!

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toju-ju-

😊When you do this plan should you do any other runs or just these 3 a week?

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WhatsappGraduate10

Dictionary definitions:

RUN:- move at a speed faster than a walk, never having both or all the feet on the ground at the same time.

JOG:-run at a steady gentle pace, especially on a regular basis as a form of physical exercise.

So are we are all really joggers that go running?

Sometimes I run slow sometimes I run fast. To me the faster runners are the elite runners and the rest of us are just runners

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mrrunGraduate10 in reply toWhatsapp

They also go on about actual run/jog speed, got them all figured out. I plan to say, when asked, that I jog as that is the part of my structured training for the run! See what they say then!

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply tomrrun

I should say..I run slowly 😉

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mrrunGraduate10 in reply toOldfloss

If l check my times against the ‘classification’ it turns out that I’m a ‘slower’ runner. Hey, The Runner! But if l push it further and compare my times with those of my age group, I’m sure l can leap into the ‘elite’ stage. Wow, I’m getting dizzy, l better stop!

Narks me too. I passed a man with a dog around 5.30 one morning and he said how early it was for a jog. Grrr ... I'm a runner. Jogging, to me, is a less serious pastime

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AlMorrAmbassadorGraduate10 in reply to

In a nutshell, I read somewhere else, regarding a 5k if you can run it in less than 30 minutes you are a runner, over 30 minutes, a jogger, most people who enter a 10k can run/jog that in less than 90 minutes,ie, if you run a 5k in 40 minutes, then if you keep up that same pace in a 10k that would be 80 minutes, 10 minutes less than that 90 minute cut off time mentioned earlier.

in reply toAlMorr

That’s me scuppered then ☹️

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply to

No.you are not...just check out how many half marathon and marathon runners have never,ever completed 5K in less than 30 minutes..

They run...you run..I run..we run...

Slow, fast..whatever..if we aren't walking ..we are running..

You..are a runner and a brilliant one😊

in reply toOldfloss

Yay for us! I agree.x

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply to

We rock and we RUN... !!! x

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toOldfloss

I think the C25k has us new graduates obsessed with the 30 min 5k. 😫

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toRipcurlrana71

We do keep trying, as Admins to get the 30 minute run, message over..but we do have to battle :)x

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Ang33333 in reply toOldfloss

I'm not obsessed with 5k in 30 mins! Isn't going to happen!😁

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10 in reply toAng33333

Go you...when I found out it was not necessary..I thought ..silly me 😉

Years of telling children to read everything through before you begin things..😆

Ang33333 profile image
Ang33333 in reply toOldfloss

I know! I'm a teacher! A slow running one! And happy with that!

Ripcurlrana71 profile image
Ripcurlrana71Graduate10 in reply toOldfloss

And us graduates keep telling the newbies. X

Mummycav profile image
MummycavAdministratorGraduate10

Well said rolysmate ...it takes us all a while & a little persuasion from Mr Smooth/Laura/Jo etc for is to believe that we are ‘proper runners’ & it’s because the ‘whippety thin’ people are what we conceive to be ‘proper runners’ but like I said in my post the other day someone, somewhere first uttered the words ‘you’re/they’re/I’m not built for running’ how ridiculous??!! If you put one foot in front of the other at a faster than walking pace you are, indeed, a runner....good for you for making a quick exit from that Roly....they don’t deserve you 😉 we should all wear our running gear with pride 🏃‍♂️🏃🏼‍♀️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

rolysmate profile image
rolysmateGraduate10 in reply toMummycav

I run therefore I am lol

Mummycav profile image
MummycavAdministratorGraduate10 in reply torolysmate

You definitely are 😉

ClareO65 profile image
ClareO65

MJ said I’m a runner so it must be true ☺️ Still recall that moment- could not wipe that grin off my face 😂

I’m whippety thin (except for a bit round the middle) but slow, so where does that leave me 😳🤨☹️

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10

Looking good... like me... like all of us... !!

Oldfloss profile image
OldflossAdministratorGraduate10

By Jove.. you have set us off here xxxx

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ancientrunnerGraduate10

Hear Hear!!! I always think of jogging as a term invented in California in the 70's - 80's around the same time as sweatbands and Jane Fonda's burn. Never understand why they try and divide it.

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Millsie-J

To jog or to run requires the same technique...... what we each call ourselves is up to us!

I run because I can..... albeit slowly 😀🏃🏻‍♀️

Whatever .... i am proud of what I do! I move faster than those on the couch😎🌸

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GoogleMeGraduate10

I'm right with you rolysmate - that 'just' is a really killer...

I think "What use of language will encourage people to be active in a healthy way?" I know there's a pace related definition of something like 7min/km (a pace I know not of on a personal level) and I did not take umbrage when Laura was encouraging me not to go too fast by saying 'just a light jog' - but that is not the same as being described as a jogger or as going jogging. (My mother persists in asking if I have been jogging. She would never describe my father or brother as going jogging.... hmmm... must do an experiment and see what she says about my sister...)

To be fair though it sounds as though in this instance maybe they were trying to sound inclusive and get more people to participate rather than having different categories and dividing people into 'runners' and 'joggers' themselves?

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Rignold

On the race entry form it is probaby so they can gauge who many front of pack and back of pack entrants they have and how to order the starting grid. I very much doubt a race organiser had any pejorative intent in mind. Organising races is a more complex business than might be imagined. Runners who are aiming for competitive times do not want to have to wade through their slower brethren for the first couple of km, and 'hobbyist runners' do not want to get jostled and barged by the speedy ones trying to get past them.

It never ceases to amaze me how much it matters to people which noun is used to describe their activity or how snobbish people are about the term jogging. For me personally, if I am doing sprint or up to 400m or so I am generally running: I am pushing my speed to the upper areas of my all out max. If I am running anything further than that I am gearing down and jogging. Any pace I can sustain for more than a few minutes is jogging, whether it's a 26min 5k or a 6hr ultra distance.

On a similar note, many people are unable to distinguish between weightlifting, powerlifting and bodybuilding, but I am not going to go out of my way to get offended if they use the wrong terminology.

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rolysmateGraduate10 in reply toRignold

it's the use of "just" that annoys me as if we are lesser beings

misswobble profile image
misswobbleGraduate10 in reply torolysmate

You’ll get over it. Don’t let your bristling over it prevent you from taking part! 😁

orangeguy profile image
orangeguyGraduate10

Totally agree . . . I personally don’t care what people call it, I run / jog because I like it and for health and fitness. I’m totally uncompetitive and probably quite anti-social too as I like to run alone :)

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rolysmateGraduate10 in reply toorangeguy

I am very similar but it was the term "just" that I didn't like

Tjar profile image
Tjar

As long as Michael Johnson says I need to slow down because it is supposed to be a ‘light jog’, I consider myself a jogger and a runner and I take both very serious.

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Elfe560minGraduate

Great rant! 😃

Decker profile image
Decker

Runner and jogger. They are just words. I try not to get too hung up on them. One person’s fast is another’s slow and so on. Everything is relative, right? 🙂

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rolysmateGraduate10 in reply toDecker

It is Decker but it's the use of the term "just a jogger" , I may not be fast and yes jog probably relates to my speed BUT I put just as much effort into it

Decker profile image
Decker in reply torolysmate

Maybe a poor choice of words using “just” on their part, and you absolutely give as much effort to the activity. To me they are two different types of activities, equally valuable.

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misswobbleGraduate10

I absolutely don't care 🤷‍♀️. I go for a jog. It describes the speed - it’s not derogatory

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ju-ju-Graduate10

rise above it, its all piffle paffle.

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