Calcium D3 Gummies

[Truth-seeker1951]

Hi all, I made a decision not to take any medication, Fosomax etc, for osteopenia, even though my doctor wanted me to start. All your feedback was very helpful in confirming my decision. I talked in length worh my pharmacist, who agreed wirh my decision and recommended D3 and Calcium to start. I bought Calcium +D3 gummies because I can't swallow pills. I wanted your feedback about the Calcium used in gummies and if anyone has taken them. I will be calling back my pharmacist but would love your input. The Label says 'Calcium (as Tricalcium Phosphate) 500 mg take 2 daily. I spread it out for improved abortion. D3(as Choleclciferil) 1000 IU. I also ordered K2 Mk-7 on Amazon.

[HeronNS]

Please get yourself a supply of Vitamin K2 also. It's the vitamin which makes sure calcium goes to the bones. Vitamin D enables us to absorb calcium, but doesn't tell it where to go! If you haven't read it yet I suggest you have a look at my story as I, like you, decided not to take any medication for osteopenia. So far (eight years later) sogood!

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk...

And this, in case you think you should have more investigations re bone thinning:

osteoporosis.ca/medical-con...

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to HeronNS]

Thank you for the link to your documented health journey. It was very helpful. I'm going to buy a weighted vest!! I'm going to start a journal on my results and what supplements am taking too! I still need to find out if the gummies Calcium are ok.

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to HeronNS]

Please let me know the name if your weighted vest. The ones I found are already weighted and not adjustable. Also I bought K2 MK-7 and found out that the Calcium in the gummies is ok.

[HeronNS in reply to Truth-seeker1951]

I bought this, a few years ago but I expect it's still very much the same. It comes in several sizes and all the weights are little metal ingots so you can carry as little or as much as you want, and increase the weight by ounces at a time.

hyperwear.com/en-ca/product...

Also I just found this review article. My vest was purchased in 2015. This article is from 2023.

melioguide.com/osteoporosis...

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to HeronNS]

Thank you!

[Kimm4 in reply to HeronNS]

How does a weighted vest help??

[HeronNS in reply to Kimm4]

Because bones become stronger in response to stress placed on them, a weighted vest is a good way to add gradually increasing weight to encourage bones to strengthen. The spine is helped by this process relatively comfortably because a weighted vest distributes the weight over the entire torso, unlike, for example, a backpack. A good weighted vest for this purpose is one which allows the wearer to add small weights from time to time so that there's no risk of strain or injury which might occur with too much of an increase. It's not so much the total amount of weight which is being carried, but the fact that a little bit more is added from time to time. Once you've reached the maximum you want to carry you can stop wearing it for a while, then after a few months start again, at a somewhat lower weight again. E.g. one might start with, say, two pounds, and every week or so add a couple of ounces. Maybe by the time you get to eight poounds you think that's quite enough. You wear that weighted vest for a little bit longer, then put it away for some time. When you start wearing it again you might just want to start with four or five pounds, not go right back to the beginning, and if your back is now stronger anyway you can increase the weights a bit more quickly than the first time.

There are other things which improve upper body strength, including tai chi and walking with Nordic poles. Strengthening supporting muscles and improving balance are important to help lower the risk of fracture.

[Kimm4 in reply to HeronNS]

Thanks for the info.

[Met00]

You don't necessarily need calcium, depending on whether you're getting enough through diet. To know how much D3 to take, you need to know your blood D level, which needs to be at least 75nmol/litre (30ng/ml US measure), many say 100nmol/litre (40ng/ml). Many of us need at least 2000iu Vit D daily to achieve this, but we're all different, so you really do need to check your own blood level. How much K2-MK7 have you ordered?

Supplements play a role in healthy bones, but it's also very important to have a healthy diet (low sugar, caffeine and alcohol, high protein, plenty of calcium and magnesium). You also need to get plenty of weight-bearing exercise, as high impact as is safe for you, with progressive weight training if possible.

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to Met00]

Thank you very much. I'll request blood work.

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to Met00]

Hi, I purchased 100mcg K2 MK-7, by a USA company called KAL.

[elaine2447]

Steer clear of these dreadful bone treatments. I cant believe that after FDA warning about denosumab in 2017 and our own govt putting out a warning in May 2020, these consultants are still prescribing it. We have two victims of this drug on our group who have had multi fractures as a result gov.uk/drug-safety-update/d... This is what happens with bisphosphonates orally or by infusion youtube.com/watch?v=0nZmMBi...(Not working as expected?)

[HeronNS in reply to elaine2447]

Just to clarify, denosumab isn't a bisphosphonate, but it does come with some potentially very serious consequences. Like many (most?) medications there is a use for it, but really only for people for whom other treatments are not appropriate for whatever reason. I know, for exmple, of a gentleman who was nearing end of life, for whom this was very helpful. The problem is, as you point out, the drugs are happily prescribed by practitioners without due diligence. There is so much we can do to protect our bones, or even work to improve bone health through our own means - exercise, nutrition, a few judicious supplements - but seldom if ever does a doctor suggest this first, particularly to people with so-called osteopenia who would be in a good position to find ways to strengthen their skeleton before matters worsen.

[elaine2447 in reply to HeronNS]

I would never touch that or bisphosphonates.My scores are around - 5 worse thanks to NHS ignoring phpt for 4 years until I had to pay for a private surgeon. I recently saw a video of a US surgeon referring to a bisphosphonate fracture. The ROS are drug pushers probably because one of their main sponsors is Amgen who still sell Prolia and this other vile stuff Evenity which was originally banned by the FDA but guess what it's back. Everything is down to money. drugs.com/sfx/evenity-side-...

[HeronNS in reply to elaine2447]

I do wish we were all taught about the things we can do in our lives while still young which will keep our bones strong. We learn about signs of stroke, the dangers of smoking, things to watch for concerning cancer, the importance of diet and exercise in avoiding heart disease, how to eat to avoid developing type 2 diabetes. but nothing at all about bones, until we're in trouble!

[elaine2447 in reply to HeronNS]

It should be mandatory to have a dexa or better still REMS after the menopause but here you have to fracture something first.

[HeronNS in reply to elaine2447]

I actually had a tibial plateau fracture a few years ago (accident, don't think it should be classed as a fragility fracture) and nothing was said even then about a DXA scan. Don't think I even knew there was such a thing. I was nearly 67. Had one about 18 months later, at my request, when my doctor told me she thought I should be prescribed AA after I started taking prednisone for polymyalgia. That actually started me on my ongoing project, to strengthen my bones and never to take bone medication!

[elaine2447 in reply to HeronNS]

I'm sorry about having to take the prednisone which unfortunately can damage bones. My mothers gp panicked when mum had polymyalgia and gave her huge doses as he was worried it would lead to large cell artiritis. Fortunately it didn't but she ended up with a large moon face. I hope yours is under control.

I have very little faithin the medical profession. I walked around with "unexplained back pain" for 13 months despite being in hospital with my severe op records there after a fall. A rheumatologist said we should investigate this!!!! A T5 compression fracture, far too late for kyphoplasty. I was coping fine with it for years until first vax shot. So that has taken over and ruined what is left of my life. I'm waiting to hear about comp with no chance as I found 96 percent of claims rejected as they cleverly try to link existing illnesses, they will be hard pressed to link peripheral neuropathy and inflammatory arthritis but I daresay they will find a way. Anyway my case study has been done but hearing not until next Spring 😏

[HeronNS in reply to elaine2447]

I'm so sorry to hear about these troubles. I remember my stepmother telling me not to get old (of course the implication is die young, but I'll give her credit for not meaning that!). It certainly isn't any fun at all as we feel our bodies crumbling (sometimes literally).

My PMR wasn't diagnosed for over a year, and I was really lucky that the doctor who made the diagnosis started me at the standard 15 mg pred, and after initial guidance through the first six weeks or so, allowed me to taper at my own pace. So I got to 5 mg in about ten months, where side effects are very low. My side effects turned out to be invisible. Increased ocular pressure, increased blood sugar, and possibly an effect on the bones although as I'd never had a baseline DXA we'll never know. I dealt with the blood sugar through strict diet, and bones through diet, nutrition, exercise. Ophthalmologist monitored me closely for a year and I still have an annual check up instead of biennial. He was very knowledgeable about pred and PMR and GCA and said vision distubances needed to be treated as seriously as a heart attack or stroke.

If your mother had some GCA symptoms then it was wise to give her a higher dose, although if it was determined she "only" had PMR she should have been able to taper to a regular PMR dose relatively quickly. One thing we know is that is seems PMR patients are all different, which must make it more difficult for doctors who want to treat the individual rather than following the guidelines to the letter, which usually don't quite fit any specific case!

I hope you are gradully feeling better. Best wishes.

[elaine2447 in reply to HeronNS]

Thanks, you too x

[Prunesssss]

Check out Dr Barbara O'Neill..recons Celtic salt has all eighty something minerals in it , just take some crystals tip of your finger with water ,same with hymalian salt can't hurt I recon

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to Prunesssss]

Thank you so much for the information! I'll will read about Celtic salts immediately!!

[Truth-seeker1951 in reply to Prunesssss]

I just ordered two 8oz bags from Walmart, on sale for $12, reduced ftom $20. Good bye Mortons table salt! Again, thank you!! I love this forum!!