Does anyone have any idea if there are blood pressure medications that can be taken intravenously? The only medications I can tolerate have once again bitten me in the rear.
Since November of last year I have tried 3 times and ended with severe IBS from these meds each time. Blatantly obvious the meds are attacking my stomach lining after 4 months of use. Currently dealing with the after mess of round 3.
Just gone off meds and not eating. Yes extreme but effective. I'm type 2D, CKD, IBS and been having mini strokes. Had all the medical intervention possible and still no answer. I certainly know what I don't have now, but I only want to know what I do have! Still taking blood thinners and Omeprazole with prescription multi vitamins. I'm low in B12 and D3.
I have little faith the medical fraternity will ever sort this so it falls to me to find a solution.
Official data are that in USA and in UK, 67% of population are overweight or obese. I do not know about you, but if in this group, fasting is a very good way to improve the situation.
Not taking BP medication is also a good way - I am 71 and have never taken them, despite measuring BP in the range 140/90 to 180/110 (peak value 190/120). Tell me, why would I, at the end of the life, need to have BP at the level of a young chap (120/80, lately corrected by Big P to 115/75). It is so normal to have some increase of BP since all the regulation in the body starts having problems (is is kind of normal to loose sight, starting at the age of 45, but it is not normal to have poorer BP regulation).
Essentially, there are two ways how to reduce BP - 1) slowing the heart (reducing blood flow-rate), whereby all the tissues get poorer blood supply and 2) eliminating fluid from blood circulatory system (diuretics), whereby the risk of clotting gets increased. So, which way to go!? I do better without them...
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For 30 years I have had high BP typically 180/110 peaking at 240/130. Now I have had a swarm of 15 mini strokes I'd be a fool to not take action. Problem is it takes 4 months for the oral meds to destroy the stomach with no other side effects. I'm well aware of what I can and can not get away with. In order to stop the stomach reaction I need intravenous meds, or no meds and stroke out. Damned if I do and damned if I don't. There is little dispute I definitely do and feel better without the meds but with the real threat of a major stoke I need to find an alternative. I would be a fool to ignore the warnings.
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Were you on BP medication of diuretic type when you had the series of mini strokes?
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No, I was off meds at the time restoring the 2nd stomach flare up. Immediately back on meds and new blood thinners plus a lecture about being off my meds.
have you spoken to the specialist charity Blood Pressure UK?
And I’d disagree with the poster who suggested that poor hydration helps. If I’ve read the post correctly. Good hydration surely helps with blood pressure.
I'm currently under specialists for gastrology, orthopedics, neurology, eye clinic and a diabetic dietitian. All are happy with what I'm doing and ingesting. In fact they are surprised I have trialed so many different meds and diets. My diet and hydration have been ticked off as good. I'm very fortunate to have so many people trying to solve my health problems.
I'm 4 months into chronicling everything I eat, drink and do with the reactions and BM type every hour of my waking day. I don't eat man made or adulterated foods and stick with natural and fresh. Done fodmap, gluten free and lactose free and no difference. The only thing to change through all this is the cholesterol levels, down to 6.8 from 9.8. Not medicated for that. Don't smoke or drink alcohol and don't drink coffee, am sugar free, salt free as much as I can control and don't eat a lot of red meat. I do mild exercise only.
I have been tested for heart, kidneys, colon and stomach. Probed and prodded, scanned, ultrasound and X rayed, full blood work ups and all that has come to light is an enlarged heart and a hypersensitivity to acid reflux. I'm B12 and vitamin D3 deficient and am takin meds for these. My immune system is compromised, so always wear a mask out of the home.
I react to every medication ever given. Not enough to kill me with some, but those that tried are the rare side effects. Empagliflozin caused anaphylaxis and was knocking me out for two hours after taking. Antihistamines the non drowsy ones also knock me out, 3 hours after taking. Antibiotics have to be taken intravenously because of the damage they do to me taken orally. I have never been vaccinated for anything but Covid in my life.
As you might imagine I'm tired of being guinea pig and would like to be comfortable. I need to deal to the BP in the hope there is not a serious stroke ahead. Fifteen mini strokes over 3 days was a substantial warning not to be ignored.
I'm outside UK. Previously checked over by a cholesterol specialist and found no cause for concern at 9.8, no restrictions or build up. Not desirable but then there is no specific number as groups of people around the world are surviving on higher and lower numbers without problems. There is only a recommended number. Having said that, yes, I would like to see it lower but as yet have not found a medication that I do not react to, finally given up trying then it dropped. I suspect it may relate to the amount of red meat and the small amount of fried food I used to eat. It is becoming obvious my body does not like being medicated.
I was poisoned with PBB in 1975 and Kidneys stopped with campylobacter in 2016. My health has never been the same since.
sorry DC I just assumed you were in the UK. I haven't looked recently but I don't think their website mentions intravenous BP meds. But you might react badly to anything intravenous too, I don't know.
I can't say I relish taking medication, but I take this view: my body, as it ages, isn't working as well as it used to when I was in my twenties and thirties. Therefore, I take medication to replace what my body does not do properly.
I'm sure you are already aware that lifestyle and diet are the first line of defence, so as to speak, for controlling your high pressure. I've been reading newspaper articles regarding recent research which indicates that modern diets, with all their additives, are not doing the population of the world very much good!. I also read a few years ago that those populations (like odd ones in Japan, Italy and so on who seem to live to a hundred) all have low cholesterol and blood pressures.
Can't imagine how campylobacter would affect your kidneys - but I'm not a medic.
The kidneys stopped functioning for 18 hours, that I know of. Couldn't understand why I couldn't walk 20 feet, then drove myself to hospital. Eventually kick started the kidneys and slowly built from there. Managed to push them to GFR60 on a very strict diet, but incredibly difficult to stick to. Now a little more relaxed with diet and holding GFR40. Having to live on special diets has taught me not to touch man made or adulterated foods and fluids. The purer the better. Interesting that my kidney function improves when I'm off the so called kidney friendly medications. It wasn't until I went on my diet that I learnt just how much difference it makes to the modern "good for you" rubbish.
Seems to me that everything on the supermarket shelves has salt, sugar or artificial sweeteners and salt substitutes added.
It has been interesting reprogramming the brain not to crave salt or sugar. Being brainwashed from birth that food has to contain one or the other to be good is the biggest injustice to the taste buds, next to smoking. The real taste of food can be every bit as good to the taste buds.
I wonder how we are going to do with the latest additive to our food, micro plastics. I imagine they will start to affect the bodies filtering systems in time. Thankfully I'm too old to have a lifetime of that stuff.
I have been given antibiotics intravenously in the past because of my intolerance. Worked a treat bypassing the stomach. It may be what I have to do with any future meds.
I'm to the point of wondering when I'm going to become allergic to life!
My wife tells me as long as I can walk, talk and cause trouble I must be OK. Kind of feels that way.
Sorry I can’t help but I appreciate what you are going through. Im resistant high bp 2 small stroke at 52 (no reason given) docs look at me and think slim young(ish) and healthy 🤦♀️. But like you I react badly to most meds (and everything else it feels like) and have tried 11 bp meds so far. They were also trying meds off licence that side effect is to lower bp and one was a patch for the heart. I can’t remember what it was but would that bypass your stomach and possibly help to lower your bp? Not sure if there’s other topical heart meds that might have side effects of lowering bp.
Also been given guidance on non medical things to help beetroot juice, coconut juice, magnesium tuarate and magnesium glycinate and the Norwood diet for diabetes (side effect it also reduced the patients blood reassure). It’s meat and egg heavy very very low carb so might put cholesterol up.
I had to go off blood thinners after very bad nose bleeds and am now only on a third of a tablet for the moment . But yes I worry every day about further small strokes or a big one because I just can’t budge my bp. I hope you find something that will work and get that bp down.
I knew I was not the only one with these problems.
I'm CKD 3B, type 2 diabetic, IBS, and riddles with osteoarthritis. What we know is a have a good heart slightly enlarged though. Fifteen mini strokes over 3 days and no evidence of any permanent damage and stronger than average for my age. Been tested, probed, scanned, Ph levels monitored and X-rayed. Guess what, nothing, but fortunately I have been able to convince the medics there is something wrong. Not a figment of my imagination.
Lost count of the meds and combinations tried. Found one, Empagliflozin, that after 8 weeks my stomach didn't seem to be reacting to, but it constantly knocked me out 3 hours after taking it, for around 2 hour a time. It also gave me anaphylactic episodes, enough to call the ambo's. I lose cognitive reasoning, cannot make decisions, have brain fade and generally feel grotty and lethargic on meds. Some how it all starts to attack the stomach and I end up reacting to anything consumed after 4 months of meds. When I stop them I immediately pick up and within days am back to pre-meds state. Done this three to make sure I'm not imagining it, nope, every time the same. I'm currently waiting for my Gastrologist to return from sabbatical to continue the fight. Didn't warn me of his departure. Four days away fro m GP appointment, and I finally have a good GP for once, to thrash it out.
I still find it mind blowing just how much these meds knock me around. My parents always told me I had natural immunity, not sure about that. Never been vaccinated apart from Covid vac's and only had smallpox to travel, it didn't take. Tetanus shot laid me out for 3 days, never again. My meds are supposed to be kidney friendly but every time on them my kidneys take a 15 % hit. Mostly recoverable. All tested and proved by hospital staff. Not my imagination.
Day 7 after stopping meds or eating. Had half a can of spaghetti 3 days ago and numerous cups of tea over the 7 days and still reacting, although seem to be getting better slowly. The weirdest one I have had is antidepressants of both types. Get super aggressive and argumentative, even I can see it and that takes some doing! Don't do them any more as it is anxiety for obvious reasons and not depression. They confuse the desire to self terminate as depression instead of reaction borne from utter frustration and desperation. Ten years of this and still fighting with medical staff. That and the knowledge that there are people far worse off than me, keeps me sane and fighting.
Currently under gastrology, dietitian, neurology, orthopedics and eye clinic and making slow progress, but progress none the less.
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