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This is really a post to cheer Mr Bojangles, but it is also a post about dementia. Two weeks ago, I was invited to join my manager to help present a training session on dementia to a dozen or so new volunteers. My task was to talk about my experiences on the ward with dementia patients, and to give tips on good communication. Well, I put my words into action and went out into the seated audience and spoke to people face to face. I was really saying “well done for volunteering, it’s good to meet with you.”

The first thing I taught them was a passcode. A six-digit number that they must remember! I told them it was not a key to opening a door, nor a key to a medicine cabinet but a key to a secret entrance! This immediately got their attention. I told them the code: 553807 and that I’d ask them later if they could remember it, forbidding them to write it down.

Well last week I approached a bed where a lady patient was shouting and was certainly disturbed. She shouted out “Call the police.” Well, I made my first mistake here, being put on the defensive, especially as she repeated “call the police.” I said I’m sorry, but I don’t have a phone. Immediately I said that I realised what a dumb answer that was, for she was likely to say “Well bloody go and get one”. Anyway, I tried to climb out the hole I had made by asking her “Why do you want to call the police” and she shouted out, “because I’m dying.”

I found this both sad and funny! Funny, that she was already in a hospital bed; the right place; but sad for she was clearly disorientated and quite possibly delusional. I could easily have said that she was already in hospital in the right place but instinctively I felt that anything I might say would produce more illogical argument. It was then that a watchful nurse told me that the patient had told her earlier that morning that she (the patient) had died yesterday! How would anyone react if a person came to you and said “I died yesterday.” The only person who could get away with saying that is Mr B for he seems to be forever coming back from misfortune! I think he told me he had already put two old pennies on his eyes as a joke!

I continued to tell the audience of specific and challenging conversations with patients one being the elderly gentleman in his wheelchair that told me “You’re wearing my shoes!” Mr reply was “What size shoes do you take?” (thinking the logical conclusion that his large feet and my small feet would make this impossible.) But he came back at me “But you’re wearing my shoes.”

So, I put a series of possible answers to my audience of new recruits, namely:

a) They are very comfortable,

b) Yes, I’d like to borrow them for half an hour.

c) Yes, they are hurting me feet.

A lady in the front row suggested I could have answered with a compliment like “you have very good taste sir”. I like that. Distraction can work. We can go with the flow of a conversation or try distraction techniques. I remember one elderly man, every time I tried to turn the subject matter to music, he would say, “I know you’re trying to con me”.

One patient told me that she was the Queen’s sister. She even told me that she had not at first believed this, but the Queen has insisted on this being true. So, on that occasion I went with the flow, going along with the fact that she was indeed the Queen’s sister but that she felt uneasy with this role!

Well, after describing many of the conversations I had with patients “living with dementia” I came back to the passcode number, 553807, reminding them that it did not unlock a door but using that number very much unlocked a corridor to good communication! So that:

55% of communication is body language,

38% is tone of voice, and only

07% is word content.

I have proved this to be the case, having a 5-to-8-minute conversation with a lady patient from Uzbekistan who spoke no words of English. Nor indeed did I speak or understand Uzbekistan. But I sat near to her, face to face, at eye level and demonstrated with my facial gestures and upper body arm gestures that I was indeed listening to her and comprehending what she was saying. I would nod, frown, raise eyebrows, say “yes”, shake my head, open my mouth and go through a whole range of expressions. Really trying to mirror her tone of voice and mannerisms.

When new volunteers are asked to shadow me, I usually tell them to “listen with your eyes” and “switch your lights on”. When a patient can see that that you are really interested in what they are saying (even though they may have died yesterday) then you are more than halfway there to sharing a meaningful communication. The patient may not remember who you are, or why you were there with them, but the “afterglow” of that conversation with remain with them for longer. 😀😁🤔🤪🤐😗☺️☹️😨😣😡🤡🫡😜😁🥴🧐😱😢

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sassy59

What a tragedy dementia is yet it can bring laughter as well as tears. Pete’s mum used to sit near the door at the care home, coat and shoes on, waiting to be taken to hospital. She had vascular dementia and Alzheimer’s so a double whammy.

You do such a wonderful job volunteering and other volunteers are lucky to have your help and experience David.

Keep going. Xxxx❤️

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Greenthorn in reply tosassy59

Thanks Carole. Yes it's very sad. My mother lived with Alzheimer's so although one might think I was armed with coping strategies before I did voluntary work, I can often be bamboozled by a patient. I can picture Pete's mum waiting by the door; heartbreaking really. Maybe I'd have invited Pete's mum out for a short walk. I know whenever my mother would insist on leaving I would walk her round the block or into the nearby park and she'd be ready to come back into her house.

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islande in reply tosassy59

my mother also had vascular dementia and altzippers so I understand how upsetting and challenging it was for you both.best wishes..

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islande in reply toislande

sorry meant to say altziemers

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Greenthorn in reply toislande

Made me smile. I might yet use "altzippers" in a story! 😃

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sassy59 in reply toislande

Thank you so much islande. Bless you. Xx👍❤️

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Dottie11

What a thought provoking post. Thank you for sharing as it really gives an insight into this condition. What you think can be the right thing to do, say and act on can actually need something else all together. I have been listening to the radio with much interest these last few days as the focus is very much on these terrible difficult conditions. Keep up the very good work you do and take care. x

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Greenthorn in reply toDottie11

Thanks Dottie. There was a post I put up last year I think, about a woman who believed I was playing her piano. (I was playing Chopin on a Bluetooth speaker) I got into trouble there, taking a chance that she'd enjoy the Chopin, but when she asked if it was her own piano, I said "yes" and from then on it became worse. "You don't have permission to play my piano". I thought I was being clever when I responded "it's a recording", but the damage had been done and she was upset and cross with me. Two weeks later I played birdsong in the hospital bay where she was (I was interested to see what might happen). Well she stopped shouting and I believe I had "transported" her to her garden. Within a few minutes she began a conversation about a robin.

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Dottie11 in reply toGreenthorn

Crikey its a tricky area and another good example of how a conversation can go the wrong way. A horrible condition. The Radio show had the people caring from their partners/spouses and their words really struck home how difficult and tragic their lives can be. I am sure your support is much appreciated.

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Yvonneh1234

I worked with dementia and Alzheimer’s patients since I was in my early 20s it’s such a rewarding an heartbreaking job at the same same I utterly loved it 😊I had a patient who could be quite violent at times but everyday we would have a dance that smile when we danced it was a picture ☺️it could of lit up the room . . . I will never forget it ,it can be very trying for everyone involved xx

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Greenthorn in reply toYvonneh1234

Thanks Yvonneh, you've put a smile on MY face. I can just imagine that. Unforgettable!

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Yvonneh1234 in reply toGreenthorn

Greenthorn I’m glad I made you smile 😊 I think even if you’ve made someone smile once a day or you go home thinking something you’ve done in that day made someone feel better it’s worth the hard work you’ve done that day xx😊

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Yvonneh1234 in reply toYvonneh1234

P.s He might of been smiling at my dancing to be honest it wasn’t the best 😂but he enjoyed it so that’s all that matters xx😊

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Mrbojangles

Absolutely true and I remember someone once telling me when you are in conversation with someone stop thinking about what your reply will be and totally focus on every word the other person is saying.

Great work Mr G , keep it up.

👍👍👍👍

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Greenthorn in reply toMrbojangles

Bang on, MrB. Great advice!

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Caspiana

Your workshop sounds very interesting David and hands on which is better than listening to someone droning on about the theory of dementia rather than the practical. You do such good work at the hospital you are a wonderful asset to them and their wonderful program. They are so very lucky to have such a dedicated volunteer. Take care of yourself too, RSV seems to be making it's rounds at the moment. Looking forward to your next installment.

Cas xx 🙋‍♀️🐕

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Greenthorn in reply toCaspiana

Thanks Cas. Yes, there's another lady patient who I met on that same morning, let's say very "challenging". I thought I'd cracked it when I played Nat King Cole singing Let There Be Love but I found myself in a worse position! I'll throw that one in the mix. I also must pay tribute to Lucy (a retired nurse) who works alongside me, as we are more relaxed working as a team, and we can share the load better (and de-brief on the go!)

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Caspiana in reply toGreenthorn

I can only imagine some of the potential complications!! 😮

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Izb1

What stories you have Greenthorn. It's wonderful that you are giving your time and energy to a worthwhile cause. I have a sister that is schizophrenic , luckily she has been stable for a number of years but went through terrible times and think dementia must have similar problems. Keep up the good work, I am sure the hospitals are greatful for the role you play x

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Greenthorn in reply toIzb1

Thanks Irene, I think I've grown into the role, especially now that I'm a designated "mentor" so that new volunteers shadow me on the befriending role. I'm also assisted by my colleague who I call Lucy, who is a retired ICU nurse. Lucy also did training at UCH for assisted feeding and she also helps with the soup trolley! Together we are a formidable duo as we feed off each energies. Having two volunteers in a pink T shirt gives an extra buzz in each of the bays; patients can see activity, volunteers actually talk with patients. We are people orientated and not task orientated, the latter being the doctors domain. We really enjoy the job and we are uplifted by many patients whose characters and stories are so very interesting.

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Izb1 in reply toGreenthorn

Great that you are working with somebody you like and get on with, it all help you to enjoy what you do and gives purpose to the meaning of life x

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Greenthorn in reply toIzb1

Funny thing, though she has been a Sister in ICU (another hospital) she was totally unused to having conversations with patients, seeing as they were seriously ill. That's why Lucy asked to be paired with me, once she did a couple of "shadowing" shifts. And nearly 5 years later she is really, really good with patients, conversation wise!

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PaperQueen

How wonderfully enlightening! Visiting a very dear friend of mine with vascular dementia in a care home one time, he told me that he had been busy working on his cars. On questioning him about them, he said he had a Bugatti a Morgan and something else vintage, equally glamorous. He had a garage where he kept them and could work on them. So much more satisfying for him that sitting staring at the ceiling or TV! Naturally I secured a promise to be taken for a spin sometime. x

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Greenthorn in reply toPaperQueen

Wow! What a fascinating character. I could have sat and listened to him for ages. Perhaps he had a garage at the back!

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PaperQueen in reply toGreenthorn

It was a wonderful day and cheered me no end to see him so happy. Certainly made a wonderful change from people hiding in cupboards waiting to pounce on him and from the hit man hired to kill him 😪. x

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Manuker

Dear Greenthorn,

You're such a star! Both patients and their families must be very thankful for your loving heart and creative kind demeanor.

I'm sure your humane and respectful way of handling your patients will set good examples to your fellow volunteers. I love your sense of humour. What a great job you have done! The manager has definitely picked the best mentor.

Manuker

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