Hi kindest women ,i miss you so much .I came back with good news ,my sister is fine .yes after all horrible moments we are happy again .she started to take care of her kids and to communicte ,we go out .but there is the problem of being too tired and she is worried as she can t work .she asked me to ask women here who recovered wether they are productive again note she is two months of ocd depression and pp medication ,after 7months of tring meds a great doctor found the right ones ,I hope you answer me .big hugs and best of luck
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This post makes me so happy, I am so glad your sister is doing so much better!
Your sister will be productive again, if that is what she wants. She just needs to be careful not push herself and take things slowly. It can take some time to recover and it is best to take it slowly and not rush into things.
There will be ups and downs in the future and this is totally normal, so just make sure that your sister is aware of when to take it slowly and rest and not push herself too much.
She has been through a huge ordeal and has done so well, as have you. Please look after yourself too!
Thank very much I gave her your reply se is thankful too .thank so so much
Hi amazing sister bettysadki
So pleased to hear your sister is fine. After PP, depression and OCD it must be very hard for your sister to focus. She will need a lot of support as recovery does take time as it is such a struggle to come to terms with everything that has happened.
The medication might also have the effect of slowing your sister down, which she needs to take to keep her stable. Try not to worry .... with all your good care and reassurance she will be able to return to work eventually but needs to take very good care of herself at the moment for a while. On page 5 of the PP Guide "Recovery after Postpartum Psychosis at app-network.org/what-is-pp/... there are short sections about exhaustion and anxieties about the future which might be helpful to your sister.
Remember to take a break for yourself too ..... good to hear from you.
Oh sweet lilybeth ,happy to talk to you again i miss you ,you are right in all what you said .i told my sister about you helping other women ,you are amazing person ,i will see the link thank you very much
Hi bettysadki, thanks for your update, good to hear things are going well for your sister. I too remember being tired and work being hard going in my recovery from pp - but it will get there, it does take time but the productivity comes back for so many of us, even if it is different than before. It is what is right for each person and family. Take care, xx
Hi Lilybeth and all the beautiful princesses here I miss u ,I'm happy to tell you that my sister is improving ,I have learned many things lot lots of things from this experince,my sister suffered a lot and so you did but this made of you strong people ,I do respect you ,I wish I can say my story on how a false diagnosis can destroy one' s life and his family too , I hope I can help in a way ,I' m back just to tell you I love your attempt to help others ,I ask from allah to find someone to help me when I will be in need ,sure god will do ,please please keep helping the ones in need 💗
Wow betttysadki ...... it's been a long time since I looked in the mirror and saw myself as a beautiful princess thank you so much! I'm very happy that your sister is fine. You have been such a great support during her illness and recovery and I hope she will find her place again. Faith is a great comfort in times of need.
I'm sorry about your own false diagnosis and hope you find peace. You are amazing and it will help other mums here to know that there is always hope in the midst of such an awful experience. From one princess to another ........ take good care of yourself and try to rest when you can ❤️️ Lovely to hear from you.
You are princesses indeed ,i don t know you ,you are far far away from my country but I feel the beauty of your soul ,the fale diagnosis i think was that they immediately give her strong med that was worsening her condition ,we have been through difficult moments ,the kids suffered a lot but thanks god as you told me she is improving ,what i want to tell you always take care oof your self you all are the best and you deserve to be happy ,one of you told me once about ocd ,yes it has a relation ,doctors should ask and do investegations about a patient before giving med it is a life of a person not simply something not important ,the sickness runs in our family may be one day I ll be psychotic before this i ll always take care of my sister and her kids,I wish you all the best and beautiful things 💞👸🌷
I'm sorry that your sister had such a bad start with her diagnosis which made her condition worse. Awareness and treatment of PP varies in each country I think but you did so well to recognise how ill your sister was and stepped in to make sure she received the treatment needed, taking care of her children too. You are a star coping with so much and I hope your sister continues to improve each day with all your good care. Very best wishes. 🌷🌷
you are such a wonderful and caring lady for your sister.
Like your sister my recovery took a while as I was not receiving appropriate care nor the right medicine in order to tackle the hallucinations.
After 39 long days I was discharged from hospital and my partner was my full time carer.
After Psychosis I was diagnosed with a chronical condition (Bi-Polar), but just to reassure you that has not stopped me to be productive throughout recovery. I just work not anymore as a lecturer, but feel very fulfilled in my volunteering work, being creative as an artist, being a mum to my wonderful little man and a partner to my soul mate.
Of course I am always cautious with stress levels and have my coping strategies, which is supported with love and kindness by my support network-family and some lovely friends and compassionate ladies via APP...
Take good care of yourself marvellous sister!
Thank you very much ,for these words ,tears are in my eyes but they are the tears of joy and happiness ,I hope I can meet you all in aljanah yes you are great people ,you deserve الجنة in english the paradise 💗🌹🌺
Hi sister ,can you tell me about these symptoms (my sister 's)her eyes s shape change to wide open when she is anxious which most of the time in the the day ,and sometimes the eyes become normal ,I think that is bipolar and she has ocd ,she keeps asking me why she can t remember past events and i keep telling her that this is normal as we all forget quickly also she stays in bed and think in the morning ,note she is on medication and she can t work ,please tell me about your self are you still on medication if you are not can my sister be like she was before this postpurtum psychosis and depression ,are there any advice for me on how to deal with her ,the message is too long but i really want to help her ,my dream is to see her fully happy and relaxed with her kids ,💖💕
Until Pikorua is able to reply about symptoms, I thought I would write to you. I think you are doing really well in reassuring your sister about past events. Sometimes if things are too painful or distressing to remember I think we can block them out and put a lid on them. I'm sure eventually your sister will be able to recall what happened following the birth but I think the details will be too distressing to hear at the moment, as they were in my case.
During my psychosis I did stay in bed as it was my safe space but eventually, as I recovered, I became more confident that I could cope. I'm sorry I don't have any experience of bipolar. As you might remember from your previous post, I had a similar experience to your sister, having PP and depression. It does take a while but with medical support and your good care she will be better. I think you are doing all you can to support your sister. In spite of being struck by such an awful illness, it is possible for your sister to lead a full and happy life with her family. Try not to worry, your sister will recover in her own time.
Take good care of yourself as you have so much on your shoulders. We are all here to listen. 🌷🌷
Thank you very much ,yes she is better now she started to change the baby 'diapers and she started to take care of the other two kids ,she first had psychosis but the depression that followed was severe ,more than you can imagine you can t imagine the panic attack she used to have ,the body was vibrating and she said she can t live anymore the time where she tried to commit suicide ,once you sent me a site and i asked and one of them told me your sister could have ocd and may be yes she had it and now she is on medication antipsychosis,antidepressant,mood stablizers but she started with the help of the doctor to reduce the doses the only problem that remains is that she has obssessions she is afraid to become crazy and she all the time tests her memory .beside what i wonder is the eyes of her you can t imagine how they change according to her mood change .I wish i can understand ,thanks for ensuring that she would recover ,I m glad that I have heard again from you ,since my childhood i dream to talk to native speakers of english ,Here i m alking to you all ,I see how kind and how you take others into consideration ,thank you very much you best mum ever and cutest princess 💐
Good to hear from you. I'm glad that your sister is much better than she was. I don't think we realise how much trauma we have been through with PP and expect too much of ourselves, too soon. I think with your constant reassurance and as your sister recovers step by step, she will be more confident and less focused on becoming crazy. She has done very well to reduce her medications. Perhaps you could ask the doctor at your sister's next review if he can explain why there is a change in her eyes according to her mood?
We are all here to talk and grateful that you have shared your sister's experience with us. She is very blessed to have your loving care. Please remember to take care of yourself too and find a little time for a break in your busy days. 🌷🌷
Thank you very much for these words that are a reassurance for me too ,i will do my best ,thank you very much ,it is a honor for me to talk to you ,I have lots of traumatic events in my life being an infertile woman in a society that respect a person for what he has not what he is i also I have one sister that once used to give me hope now she is the one who needs help ,I feel I have to say this even if it is not appropriate in this sutuation but I feel better to write it to you ,I wish you happy life and my last words is that please take care of yourselves ,we live one life what ever happen the ones who love you want to see you happy and smile smile smile and breath ,you deserve to be happy
I am very sorry to hear about your own traumatic events. We are open to listening to any worries you may have, so your words are not inappropriate.This is a safe space to come when we are carrying a heavy load and need to say it like it is. I appreciate your kind words and hope too that you will find the peace and happiness you deserve when your sister is fully recovered, as one day she will be. You are very welcome here anytime .... take good care as you matter so much to your family. 🌷🌷
Hi ,i called my sister and told her what you say ,she seems very relaxed after hearing ,when ever is possible i will do the same ,thank you so much
I'm glad your sister felt a bit more relaxed after hearing that she will eventually get better in time. I think it's difficult to say how long recovery can take as our paths are all different, some longer than others. It's important for your sister not to rush to be well although I understand how she must feel. During my second recovery I so much wanted everyone to know that I was fine and reduced my medication without supervision. I wasn't as well as I thought and went downhill very quickly. So try to reassure your sister that her thoughts of being crazy will fade as she recovers one day at a time.
There is a verse by Sandra King which I think relates to our life experiences :-
"Be like the single blade of grass. For she too, has been trampled on, mowed down, and hit with such bitterly cold stretches that she had to shut down to survive. Yet still she stands upright, with dignity, knowing that she endures, and still she dances with the wind."
When I was recovering from my unthinkable self-harm, delusions and hallucinations, like your sister, I never imagined I would be well again. With time vivid memories fade to be replaced by happy family times, which is how it will be for your sister. It must be very hard for you helping your sister who once gave you hope and now relies on your good care and loving support but she will be well again. Take care. 🌷🌷
The quote is really such cold water to me in a hot day ,it is like a light in a dark place ,You now the feeling me and my sister feel i have nothing but to say you are a gift from allah to me you are the example i would all the time remember ,you did it you sirvived and here you are giving hope to in need people ,i ask god that I meet you in paradise ,big big big thank you
Thank you so much bettysadki ..... you are the real star here, coping with so much from day to day whereas I'm just one of many hoping all will be well for you and your sister in time. I admire your courage as it is very scary to see someone, especially your sister, experience such a challenging illness and find the right support.
I'm glad the quote was refreshing .... I think it's very hopeful. Faith has been a great comfort for me too. Thinking of you across the miles 🌷🌷
Refreshing yes it is the word i was looking for ,thank you so much
my apologies for not replying any sooner, my son has finished school yesterday and we are busy preparing for the summer holidays.
First of all I am truly sorry for your own sorrows. Emotional turmoil, because of social and cultural pressures can be very traumatising.
Post Partum Psychosis is very extreme indeed, and I do believe even though we are all PPP survivors our recovery journey is very much dependent on recognition of illness, first hand intervention during acute illness with meds and health professional support.
The after-care is vital and in my case was extremely important such as a care plan suitable for my needs and involvement of support network by professionals and loved ones. I believe quite a few factors contributed to my slow improvement, such as loosing my dad and my mum in law in 2013 and 2015.
Bi-polar is not easy to be diagnosed, there are many people who never will be receiving a diagnosis. From my research quite often people will not be identified at all or not till later in their life such as Nena Simone (a great musician and activist, which I just found out recently)
If mums have had PPP and are being identified with BP, it would be BP1, because of the manias experienced already throughout Psychosis. The Spectrum of Bipolar is very diverse, I am on the mania/hyper active scale...however, I am more of a cycling mode, where there are more than 4 episodes within 12 months...or sometimes interchangeable where I have symptoms from the lows combined with hyper activity.
Lows are Insomnia and mind racing in my case and that affects my overall well being such as concentration level and listening skills. Tasks are rather difficult. I am not keen to be surrounded by people. Communication is very tiering. I love my hyper moments as I am extremely creative, but it is so much harder for my partner and son to reach me. I am often in my own bubble!
Yes, when poorly my eyes are very dilated! My disposition always has been there, meaning it was in my "make up" and reflecting back on my life style before I had my baby in 2010 my diagnosis makes sense.
Look after yourself, too fabulous sister!!! x
hi pikorua ,congratulation for your son ,💗🌺 i read every single word you have written to understand what does it mean to have bipolar ,i think the phase of hiper activity is the good part of it especially if you are creative and you enjoy it ,the bad moment are present though but as you said when someone fully understand the condition he or she no more adds the load of worring and stressing about the symptoms ,I hope you a happy holiday ,thank you very much ,i called my sister and told her what Lilybeth wrote to me ,she felt relaxed and she said asj them about the period (the time ) that the fear to be crazy fade or gone ,she seems to be eager to be recovered ,best wishes
thank you for your lovely reply.
Living with the momentum and enjoying life is pretty much my motto! It is wonderful to be surrounded by loving people as you are for your sister.
It takes time to heal, but all those amazing mums are survivors and have recovered from PPP. Your sister will improve gradually.
My son is nearly 9 years old and we are a happy family unit. Conditions can be managed via therapeutic healing and my spiritual focus.
Wishing you well. Love and kindness for your sister and you!
Sending best wishes across the miles to Morocco 🌹🌷 I hope over the past few months your sister has continued to slowly improve and life is easier for you. Thinking of you .... take care. ❤️
Time flies, I remember our conversation, bettysadki. Hope you are well and your sister is recovering in her own time.
Take good care. x
Just wondering how you are in Morocco? I hope your sister is well and you have been able to be together again since the virus isolated everyone. Here in England (Wales, Scotland and Ireland are at different stages) some restrictions have been lifted but we still remain cautious. Hoping life is a little easier for you .... take care. 🌹🌷
Oh my dear i miss talking to you. happy you are fine .things are far better now .my sister is on medication .tapering some of them .the good news is that she is going to be back to school .she is going to take the responsibilty of the children alone .she is a little afraid but I always assure her that every thing would be fine .is it safe to stay all her life on some medication? and do you think that she could manage the job while on respridone and some benzo ?do you know similar experiences ? Hope you are fine and happy .kisses 😘 sister lilybeth
Hi sister bettysadki
So happy to hear from you and that your sister feels she will be able to take more responsibility, although a bit afraid. I’m sure with your loving support she will find her way.
I’m sorry I can’t answer your questions about medication and whether your sister could manage her job while on Risperidone. Years ago Risperidone wasn’t a medication that I took but I will ask the team at APP for their advice
Sending kisses back to you across the miles Take good care of yourself as you are taking care of your family.
Thank you very much my dear
Hello lilybeth ,how are you ?i hope you are fine
Lovely t hear from you. I’m fine, thank you and hope you are too? How’s your sister? How are you coping in Morocco with the virus and restrictions? It’s a worrying time isn’t it. Take care and stay safe .... thinking of you
Thank you very much glad you are fine ,my sister is fine too as you once said recovery is possible .the virus is still spreading but no confinement except in the cities where lots of cases .it is compulsory to wear a mask .again I m happy to hear you are fine little angel 😘
Good to hear your sister I fine ..... how are you? The virus is very frightening but we haven’t been confined and can go out, with restrictions. Masks are compulsory in public places and on public transport. I find them very claustrophobic but necessary to stay safe. I’m happy to hear from you.
Take care too 💐best wishes
I think your sister is very blessed to have your loving care and support.
Stay safe xx
Hi lilybeth am proud of being in touch with such a kind and caring person like you
Thank you so much for your very kind words ..... we are all sisters in this together
I hope you are well and your sister is coping if she has been able to return to teaching. Perhaps her doctor will be able to reassure her about being on medication long term? Take really good care of yourself and stay safe.
Thank you best sister
you are such a kind sister. I've been reading the last messages of yours as I've been offline for a while. So pleased you had such great interactions with Lilybeth. She was the one who helped me tremendously, when I was struggling too much back in 2015/16.
Such good news about your sister's improvement of health and well being.
When I was very poorly, the last meds I used to wean off with was Risperidone. We are all different in our make-up and of course individual needs are diverse. In my opinion with the support and help of health professionals' advise it is possible to eventually be meds-free, as
all mums on this site have recovered from PPP.
Wishing you well and stay safe.
Hi Pikorua I am glad you recovered .Yes lilybeth is a kind caring person .I really feel better reading her words .she must be a gift to her family same like you .I hope my sister take the same path as yours .though she is quite different as she had the ppp due to the anxiety disorder that leads to the pp.so may be it will take longer to wean off medicines or she must take it forever .she has always fears and worries .but at the same time she is a strong loving and amazing person .she started enthusiastically her job even if she is still on lot of medications .My dream to see her back to her life come true .thank you so much .I feel proud to be a part of this forum
You are more than welcome and thank you so much for your kind words, bettysadki. Yes, your siss will find her path in her own time. We all have and with such deep loving kindness of yours, recovery is happening.
Only when I was home and being cared for by my loving partner I woke up from a pretty nasty dream and regained quality of life. Trauma makes you appreciate life. My gratitude for another day is always there!
Take it steady.
Thank you so much .all the tears ,worries and the nasty dream we together have been through strengthens us an make sense to this life .the lesson that I learnt is that we must live fully the moment as it is all what we have .the past is gone .the future is in hands of god .so we should accept life and be nice to ourselves first ,positivity will brighten our roads .thank you again .You are in my prayers .😘
Lovely to hear from you and your words of kindness. You are such a good listener for your sister to lean on and very wise about life’s lesson. I think more than ever we need comforting thoughts to bring us hope for the future, just as in all you have said.
So happy to hear your sister started her job .... a big step in the right direction supported by you always. Faith and hope is a great comfort to me. You are in my prayers across the miles. Stay safe.
Thank you .you are my family .stay safe too
Goodnight bettysadki ...... your APP sisters are here for you Be safe.
Thank you for your message. Just wondering how you are and whether your sister is now much better? I hope things in Morocco are not too difficult with the Coronavirus. Take care.
Hi lilybeth I 'm happy you are fine ,my sister is fine too, she is back to her life ; to us ,children and career.the youngest child is now very attached to her and I am happy to see her back again .for me still the warrior hhh but this time with my depression .I feel very lonely .for the virus .things are surprisingly weird .I mean people meet and crowded in the day but locked in houses in a certain time at night . .again I am happy to hear from you 😘
Lovely to hear from you though I’m sorry that you are feeling very lonely with depression. I’m sure you have been holding everyone up and have forgotten about your own needs. I know you will be fighting as you are still the warrior but depression is hard.
As you say, things are weird and have been since all the restrictions. It’s very sad how so many have been lost to the virus. Our city is beginning to be much busier during the day but most are keeping their distance
I’m glad your sister is fine after all your good support. Do you think she will be able to support you with depression? The trouble is that being isolated is not helping as it’s much better if you can talk to release your feelings.
Some years ago when I was feeling flat I heard a song in a shoe shop, “I’m going all the way” by Sounds of Blackness which reminded me not to give up hope. “I may be down sometimes but I won’t be down always”. It’s still on YouTube and still gives me a ‘lift’ when needed.
It’s not easy feeling depressed and trying to cope with routine in uncertain times. Be kind to yourself and find your inner strength to reach out for help as you have given so much of yourself to others. Thinking of you 😊
I’m so sorry to hear about your difficult situation and things are complicated. Is it possible you could confide in your sister? Stay safe and take care.
I’m not sure if this will be helpful but the Al-Hasaniya Moroccan Women’s Centre offer confidential support and although based in the UK they have a Facebook page.
I also found an email address, al-hasaniya.org.uk which might be an outlet for you and suggest a way forward? Otherwise your doctor should be able to offer confidential support to you. Take care.
Thanks a lot ,you are really golden .you are a family .I try to placate if things get worse I will communicate with the people you suggested .My mother and sister will not support other problems .this is going to be the last chance .I really feel proud to have such a caring person like you .thanks again
Thank you so much for your kind words. I’m so very sorry you are in this situation and hope you can find light and hope. We all care very much .... stay safe.
I am sorry for your struggles. You have been such a backbone for your sister. It is time to prioritise and allow yourself some therapeutic time.
May you be happy,
may you be well,
may you be free from suffering...
sending you love and light and hope you can find some peer support within your location.
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