Day ten, not much of a change as of today, except a little more irritable driving every day. People in my area are very aggressive drivers or they are so timid they are in the way of the normal flow. and to add to it the roads here have been neglected for years, with potholes and cracks banging and slamming my 23-year-old pick-up
TMS Update: Day ten, not much of a... - Anxiety and Depre...
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I’m on day 16. I’m not sure exactly how I feel. My anxiety is kind of ramped up. Technician say that’s not uncommon. Just putting my faith in it and trusting the process. Hope we both start feeling some results
If you don't mind me asking, are you doing TMS for anxiety, depression, or both?
I'm trying to keep up with people that do TMS, their reasons, and their success rate with it.
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Edit - and before I forget, I hope that you have better results soon. 
Both but my insurance is only paying for depression, so they are focusing on the right frontal lobe
Initially depression, but we're talking about phasing in the anxiety protocol. I have a hard time distinguishing between my anxiety and my depression sometimes. And I think it's just cruel of insurance companies to only pay for the depression side. American medicine for you.
"And I think it's just cruel of insurance companies to only pay for the depression side."
Wait.. I'm confused.
You mean your insurance will only pick up TMS for you if you have depression and not anxiety?
The way I understand it. There is a long list of things that we needed to provide the insurance company with before I qualified and then the claim had to be submitted with a specific CODE for depression. Anxiety would be a different code with a different claim. Beans need to be counted and there are people who make their living by writing the rules for counting said beans
Just im terms of anxiety where i live, it's almost impossible to find an adult psychiatrist who treats anxiety,,who doesn't take insurance. There's a total of 1 that i know of, & he declined to take me on as a patient (didn't say why). I called everyone in several databases & they're either adolescent only, or neurologists listed incorrectly. The rest don't treat only anxiety, but will as part of another illness like depression. It's so strange, i know several people growing up who went to psychiatrists for anxiety, but i tried calling the ones they went to & they are out of business here (in Texas, US). So, i can definitely believe it's harder to get insurance to pay for this, or there would be more who treat anxiety. Also, u can't get disability payments (if u can't work), or free psychiatrist help for only anxiety, but u can for only depression. It's like they almost want people with only anxiety to lie & just say we have depression also. It's so strange.
The problem around here is that clinics are picking and choosing witch insurance companies the will do business with, if your insurane policy isn't in their "Groupe" they will turn you away.
How is your TMS series going?
I pay 100% out of pocket for my TMS treatment. I go for depression, anxiety and motivation. Theta Burst TMS. I went through the 36 sessions series last Feb -april. Had 2 setbacks in Sep and Jan where I needed 11 & 10 sessions in those months to regain my stability. Now I'm going 1-2 sessions per month so I stay stabilized instead of fluctuating from the highs to the lows of TRD within 3-4 months. I'm working hard with the clinic to zero in on the best course of treatment for me the long term.
TMS is the only thing that has EVER HELPED ME. If you have any questions, you can always message me!! I'd love to hear from you ☺️
yesterday was my 15th session, still nothing noticeable I can attribute to the TMS. But I'm in it to the end. They don't think my insureance will pay for anything over the 36.
I wish my insurance would pay for ANY portion of my treatment!!
I had my doubts too at your same point. Don't get discouraged yet. It takes a while sometimes to see progress 🤞
Last night I got this weird headache on the top left side of my head where they do the one-minute treatment. I was worried because it came on really fast. I was like OMG am I having a stroke, I got in bad and when I got up this morning it was gone thankfully. I never get headaches
Your neurons are forming new connections at incredible rates. Not uncommon for weird sensations that you normally wouldn't have. Neuroplasticity is a FASCINATING subject!
Not uncommon for anxiety to be increased when starting TMS. Usually takes a few weeks for any positive results with depression. I've had 3 rounds.
Maybe the irritation means your nerves are being stimulated. I know when I am in deep depression, I don’t care enough about anything to get annoyed. One of the signs I was improving was that I was getting pissed off about things. I started caring enough about things to react
I hope that is not the direction I am going. Before the waves of panic attacks started (2006) I was an arrogant angry man. By 2008 I was humbled and afraid to go out of the house. Complete personality change. I have since learned that I have always had anxiety and panic attacks but before I was lashing out in anger (Fight or flight) but after 2006 it switched to fear. I'd like to find a place of peace and not fear.
Humility should take care of the anger. I think it’s impossible to be angry and humble at the same time. Tap into the humility you learned, and let go of the arrogance inherent in anger. Also gratitude is a good antidote. A grateful heart isn’t angry.
Maybe after the TMS I will have something to feel grateful for
"arrogant angry man."
Switch that with "sarcastic, and having a joke for everything" (I drove all of my EXs nuts with that at times) was what I was like before I broke down.
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But like you, I changed after I "officially" broke down.
It's definitely a humbling experience.
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Either way, I hope that TMS works out for you.
Well either way I'm happy share the island of misfit toys with you lol
I find this about my anxiety, too. When i finally wasn't petrified all of the time, i started getting pissed about different things. When i was in my panic state, i was too scared to get upset, usually.
I'd like to use my E-Bike, it's only about 25km round trip. But the weather hasn't been more than 10c and raining a lot
My Lina is asleep in her box, in-between meals lol
Well it was me last November, I shaved off the tribble in January
No, I'm keeping the guy I drew whistling Don't Worry Be Happy song by Bobby McFerrin, rolling the bolder up a mountain
be happy
hahahaha The wonders of art and filters in our modern times
I have to git to a therapy a appointment TTFN
Very nice!
I talk, he talks, we talk, talk therapy, lol
I have to go cook for me Mum. She's 90, she want French toast lol. Sweet dreams!
Yeah.. I understand that insurance may code the cost it differently, but I don't understand why they would pick up the cost for someone for depression and not anxiety.
I think it has to do with the qualification. I had to meet a set of parameters, had depression for x year, failed to have a positive result to x number of drugs, and so on. Whereas the anxiety would be a different set and code. And I would assume they would not cover both treatments at the same time. My TMC clinic is treating me for Depression but after the first x amount of pulses to the front of my head, they stop and rest for 15 minutes, last week during the break they added a 1-minute stimulation to the left, top side of my head. This is for the anxiety, and I don't think they are billing insurance for this because of the code thing I talked about, and perhaps it would be longer or something if they were billing for it. I'm a bit "Research OCD" so I have been curbing my need to ask a lot of questions, and just sit back.
Nice!
Just a bit of insomnia. I’m back to sleep soon.
ha! Well I never get to see you all at this time. Any more hidden talents other than art that we should know about. 🤣
Oh dear, I can so embrace everything you wrote (catch 22). After many of life's train stations, it was my fate that landed here at this one. Helping my Mum stay in her own home and out of a nursing home where many people dump their parents these days. It is my only function left in my world, and a gift I gladly give to her for caring for me as a child. But that said, it's like the same day over and over, same 12 hour routine. After her oldest son died 9 years ago she stopped being active to the point where one flight of stairs is a challenge. Both of my old sisters are so useless, one is MIA and the other is a bipolar addict, so it's best they stay away. My depression has gotten much worse since covid. I built this amazing PC to do my art on but I have lost the passion, it's like my inner muse has run away, as have my kids and my ex. I keep saying I want to start a new life, but as fate would have it, things do change but not for the better.
Lost and found
TMS usually takes at least a few weeks before any results are apparent. I've had 3 rounds, the first two results lasted about 6 months each and the third is still effective after over a year. Most will only be covered with a diagnosis of depression. TMS doesn't always work for anxiety.
Hi there......I live North of Boston and the roads are horrible.But you have already made an investment of 10 days.
My understanding is that this could take 7 or 8 weeks.
I have dealt with depression for over 40 years.
Please do not give up.
Maybe you have a friend who would drive with you or drive you.
Hang in there.
If there are people in your life who will help you let them?
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