Hello all, just a general inquiry, does anyone know where in the UK you can get good quality Magnesium to use as a supplement, I presently get mine from Holland and Barrett, they are probably ok but you have no way knowing the quality of the product. Thank you. Bluesman
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Not sure how Independant they really are but this article (link below) has some useful info you may find useful.
I tend to avoid H&B because I’ve reacted to some fillers they use & I really don’t like how they list the active ingredients in tiny print but the tablet size in large.
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I use a topical magnesium oil spray as I can’t tolerate any Magnesium oral supplements but everyone is different so what suits one doesn’t another.
You might also check Ancient Minerals website - good article on contraindications for some conditions on taking Magnesium & how aware your need to be if you take certain meds ancient-minerals.com/magnes...
Good morning CDreamer, please could you tell me which spray you use and where you get it from? Many thanks
I get it from my local Health Food Store because it’s convenient and having tried a few have settled on Better You which seems to suit me. H&B stock their products or you can buy direct online. I have tried the Ancient Minerals that was also good but a bit too efficacious for me as I have a condition which Mag can exacerbate.
H and B sell two types of Magnesium, Mg oxide and Mg Citrate. I believe the latter is better for absorption . According to Dr Sanja Gupta of York Cardiology the best Mg to take is Mg Taurate but H and B do not sell this.
My Naturopath put me on nutriadvanced.co.uk/megamag...
I get mine and other supplements online from a company called ZipVit. They give full description of contents of each supplement. Worth a look.
I also get mine from holland and Barrett. A doctor told me they are good quality even though not cheap and Iv been great on them.
From my days in the pharmaceutical industry, I think you will struggle to find out the origin of the tablets you take, or at least, any ingredients. A good local company that does manufacture the highest quality generic medicines is Boots ("BCM") in Nottingham, but there are other manufacturers in Leicester and various other places. I would trust Boots retail myself every time since their QC control is as high as it gets. They certainly formulate magnesium hydroxide gel, which they sell as Phillips Milk of Magnesia. Many generic tablets are also made overseas for cost reasons, for example, in Malta.
The highest level of absorption for magnesium will always be from the natural occurring organic salt that is abundantly available in vegetable plant cells as chlorophyll. I gather that levels in non-organic vegetables can be about a quarter lower than in the mid twentieth century, but are still abundant and there's plenty in any normal diet. If you eat vegetables, pulses and grains, it's hard to see why you will need extra magnesium unless you have an electrolyte imbalance caused by, for example, kidney issues. In that case, a doctor's advice is needed since potassium and sodium will also be out of kilter and the effects will be clear enough health wise.
Other than that, all genuinely scientific studies that I've read show no practical difference between the various salts and compounds available from industrial sources. For example, I have read on pseudo-science sites that magnesium oxide is the least well absorbed, and that magnesium chloride is the best absorbed. But if it is considered that magnesium oxide is immediately converted to magnesium chloride in the presence of hydrochloric acid, i.e. stomach acid, the claim suddenly shows itself to be spurious. The science on many websites is suspect and often woeful, but the truth is, they don't care since they are peddling other than the truth. They want our money or the ad revenue from our mouse clicks.
Magnesium taurate is liked by many and is quite well absorbed. but no better, practically, than any other form. I would ask at Boots the Chemist shops if they sell or manufacture it, otherwise H&B, but as for its origin and quality, it will likely be impossible to find out. It has a relatively tiny amount of free magnesium in it compared to, say, magnesium sulphate (Epsom Salts). Retailers like it since they can charge much more for it at present as it's become fashionable, sounds "complex" and because taurine itself is also in vogue. Its effects will be a placebo almost certainly (in my view) but that's irrelevant if it works for an individual.
Steve
Thanks very much Steve, you seem to have a very good handle on the subject, I appreciate your reply. John
Explain why any effects from taurine will be a placebo please. Do you think that Dr Gupta recommends it because it is fashionable?
It’s only because, as I understand things, for taurine to have any therapeutic effect, which is not scientifically proven but is possible, far larger doses are needed than can be administered as the magnesium salt.
Dr Gupta is an unusual and, in many ways, wonderful doctor. I have no idea why he promotes some of what he does, however, since it is not, as far as I can ascertain, in agreement with standard medical or scientific understanding.
I don’t doubt that he will be deeply aware of the placebo effect and of the part anxiety and other psychological aspects play in ill health.
Doctors are not immune to fashions in medicine, but I can’t say anything about him in that respect. He certainly dresses well! 😉
Steve
That's interesting. It might be better then to take a much cheaper form of magnesium and add taurine in a bigger dose. I take magnesium taurate and it is expensive but the brand I take comes in 100mg capsules. My main problem with other cheaper types has been that they come in enormous pills that I have difficulty swallowing! I like to take it 3 times a day and it is difficult to find 100mg doses .
hi auriculaire what if any benefits do you receive from taking taurate ie has it stopped afib or lessened occurances thanks
Hi, I use magnesium glycinate from Barefoot Nutrition. Seems to be quite good.
I use Biocare , a UK company for Magnesium Tarate.
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I would not buy them from Amazon though ...
Magnesium Taurate is the best for hearts apparently. Get the Cardiovascular Research brand which can be obtained via Amazon. I think Dr Sanjay Gupta of the famed York Cardiology has mentioned this version. Works for me anyway as has calmed my problems.
Hi, I see a nutritional therapist and she recommended Mg Taurate for me from a company called The Natural Dispensary. I take 1 capsule twice daily and it seems to have eliminated my ectopics. Hope this is useful. Tx
Hi Singing T, what is the dosage? Thanks!
So sorry it seems I didn’t reply to you in the correct way so you won’t have heard from me. I replied to the email not on here….oops. I will try to cut and paste from the email I sent. Sorry again Tx
I use something called Fullnesium ( AAVALABS) which I got on Amazon . I find it helps. It has several different types of magnesium in it so also helps with my migraines.
You hI get magnesium citrate from The Natural Dispensary Ltd. Stroud,Gloucester. I buy Bionutri magnesium complex plus and I only take one a day. I use magnesium salts in the bath now and then… Ambleside g full and soak15 mins. Good luck
I get mg taurate from Tom Oliver.
Hello. I have been taking magnesium for about 2 years every day ,2 times a day. I get them through Amazon. Cypress Pharmaceutical, Inc.- Magnesium Oxide 400 mg. - 120 Tablets
Cypress Pharmaceutical, Inc.- Magnesium Oxide 400 mg. These have helped me greatly. They are not coated.
like big pharma you have got big supplement its really difficult to sort the weeds from the flowers, ive taken loads of brands and have not found discernable benefits ,other than h and b magnesium citrate does keep me regular and makes the process a lot easier🙂
I buy Solgar or Natures best. Used both companies for years and found both VERY helpful with information and advice
I saw your reply to one post asking what the dosage was. I too have struggled with this because the quoted mg in some responses is the size of the capsule not the actual amount of elemental magnesium.I take 500mg capsules of Mag Citrate with 150mg of elemental magnesium once a day. I believe it has helped me a lot as my heart calmed a few days after starting.I buy them off the Amazon monster, made by Swiss BioEnergetics, no idea if they are better or worse that any alternative though.
My 2 cats biscuits and treats have taurine in (good for kitty health) so I may try a few bowls of them 😁.
Intelligent Labs , Haywards Health, Uk at ca.intelligentlabs.org makeMagEnhance. Magnesium Glycinate 690 mg, Magtein magnesium L-Threonate 1000mg and Magnesium Taurate 630 mg. I get it at Amazon.ca in Canada. It is also in the US. Just started taking it. Seems like it works and is a good product. No bad stuff. Lots of positive reviews on their site.
Trust Worthy - reviews posted by CDreamer seems a bit suspect. Only one recommended magnesium supplement. Surely there are more.
Please let me know what you find out.