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I see a lot of posts regarding heart calm but I would like to say thank you for this site recommending Magnesium Taurate. I was getting so many ectopic beats and SVT that it was really impacting on my quality of life.

I have been taking them for a month now and I have hardly had any. Or if I have I haven’t been aware of them. I know it might not last but at least it’s given me some reassurance and helped with my anxiety.

So many thanks.

Wishing you all good health. Deb

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10gingercats profile image
10gingercats

Yes. magnesium appears to be as a 'magic bullet.I am in a better position than some on this site but Afib is Afib and it often enlarged your heart and the consequence can be a lot less better pumping. So i began on magnesium Citrate about 2/3 years ago.My recent echo. showed improvement all round with some previous 'severe' remarks being lowered significantly. No other meds. have changed so it is most likely due to the magnesium.

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Deb1838 in reply to 10gingercats

That’s brilliant news

I am also impressed with magnesium.

I first started on mag taurate probably 2 years ago and immediately noticed a decrease in my troublesome tachycardic episodes. The past year I changed to mag glycinate ( much cheaper and more easily available and also recommended by Dr Gupta) and the effects still pronounced. The gaps between my AF episodes have also increased

To my mind taking Magnesium is a no brainer.

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Jlaine in reply to

But is there real evidance that it works?? or is really benificial. These over the counter meds add up when you have to buy several. I already buy senna, Hair,skin and nails due to hair thinning from meds,Calcium and vit D. These are all out of pocket things most people have to pay for. Not to count the fact that you have one more pill to take and figuring out when is a good time to take it. Lots of my meds can't be taken with each other..Also curious as to whether hair,skin, and nails has any negative effect on my blood thinners??Does anyone know??

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robert1957 in reply to Jlaine

hello jlaine please research magnesium deficiency and symptoms of magnesium deficiency also calcification of organs and soft tissue joints lungs. the problem is calcium cannot get to our bones teeth nails if we haven't got enough magnesium so the calcium has to go elsewhere we are all different so it settles in some peoples kidneys ie kidney stones it settles in some peoples hearts heart disease lungs breathing difficulties joints joint pain.if you are really unlucky you could have all these ailments its worth researching magnesium it could help.

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Jlaine in reply to robert1957

Thanks. Now I am more confused. Is their any proof that taking magnesium is beneficial and does it matter which one you take. Are you saying magnesium would change where the calcium goes in your body ??

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robert1957 in reply to Jlaine

yes calcium and magnesium are linked

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robert1957 in reply to robert1957

magnesium calcium and d3

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Jlaine in reply to robert1957

Thanks for info

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secondtry in reply to Jlaine

Too much calcium i.e. dairy and it blocks Mg and vice versa ... so I understand. I am trying to curb my love of dairy to get my Mg level up which to date has stayed stubbornly low.

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Dangerousdriver in reply to Jlaine

Try Google perhaps, or watching Sanjay Gupta who is a renowned Cardiologist. He has produced a couple of videos explaining the effect of Magnesium and it’s benefits.

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Shcldavies in reply to Jlaine

It will only work if you have a magnesium shortage, if you don't then it will not make any difference. However the vast majority of us do have a shortage and hence it does make a difference to most. Also magnesium will not work if you have a shortage of other minerals and vitamins especially vitamin D, potassium, iron, calcium, sodium. It is also limited if you take PPI (Omeprazole etc). Magnesium is not easily absorbed so you have to take the right magnesium (not Oxide) for you and don't expect it to work overnight.

In short it can make a difference and I believe is worth trying but do get the good magnesium not the cheap stuff which just makes you go to the toilet. A good test is to have an Epsom's salts bath in hot water for at least 20 mins, if you feel slightly calmer afterwards then a magnesium supplement will be good for you.

in reply to Shcldavies

This is in part the value of the Heart Calm combination (and I don't own stock in the company!) because it includes magnesium, potassium, CoQ10 and Taurine.

I had been taking magnesium only in the form of the Calm supplement, which is a powder you add to water to drink. What I've learned is that the form you take is really important because some are more easily absorbed than others. I still drink a bit of Calm every day, but it can quickly become too much and I'm guessing might not be absorbed as well as the Heart Calm mag.

My understanding is that the mag in Heart Calm is chosen for maximum absorption without causing diarrhea.

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Shcldavies in reply to

Thank you, I will have to try it. Have you had any episodes since you started taking Heart Calm.

This is interesting

I’ve been on magnesium for a few years for thyroid support . I don’t go for expensive brands just supermarkets own brand .

Last year I was diagnosed with enlarged heart and arrhythmia.

Is it any particular magnesium as I know there’s a couple - magnesium sterate and citrate

Thanks

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HiloHairy in reply to

I've been taking magnesium glycinate since it was prescribed to me for the migraines I no longer get since I lost weight and got in shape. I continue taking it for afib after reading that it had better absorption then other forms.

Has anyone compared the glycinate to the taurate?

in reply to HiloHairy

As I mentioned, I started on mag taurate and went over to mag glycinate and to me the benefits were the same.

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Deb1838 in reply to

Reiki master I have been taking magnesium Taurate because that’s what someone on here recommended but not sure which are best but the Taurate has really helped me.

in reply to Deb1838

Thanks Deb

Definitely on order.

Are you taking any prescribed medication too?

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icklebud99 in reply to

Can I ask you which make of magnesium have you ordered. There are so many. thanks

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Deb1838 in reply to icklebud99

I use bio care magnesium taurate

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Deb1838 in reply to

Yes I take rampril, bisopolol and diabetic medication

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Auriculaire in reply to

Magnesium stearate is a substance used in the manufacture of pills. I think it is an anti clogging additive but not a supplement. Often I have seen articles saying that magnesium oxide which is the cheapest and in most supplements is not well absorbed but not sure this is true. Magnesium citrate is well absorbed but can give the runs if you take too much.

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Jlaine in reply to Auriculaire

I use magnesium citrate due to having intestinal bipass yrs ago cause it is absorbed better. Have wondered if it is still as effective as the others???

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Auriculaire in reply to Jlaine

I don't know. I use a mixture of magnesium citrate and glycinate and there is some magnesium oxide in my calcium supplement. I have tried magnesium threonate which is supposed to be the only one to pass the blood brain barrier but it is very expensive and I can't really say I noticed any difference mentally. I m going to try taurate as Dr Gupta thinks it is best for the heart. So far my afib is behaving .

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Janith in reply to

Magnesium taurate!

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pamrupp in reply to

Stay away from any Mag Stearate! Its really bad for our bodies. Mag Taurate has bee a life saver for my AFIB and my Mitral Valve. I cannot take Inderal and I was diagnosed with Mitral Valve Prolapse when I was 20. I started Magnesium 40 years ago and have controlled my valve issue. I have recently increased it and take Mag Taurate and it has lessoned my AFIB and I am only on blood pressure meds. No thinners or arrhythmic meds.

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sleeksheep

I used Magnesium Chelate ( Malate ) 500mg with 100mg bio availability per capsule.

aor.ca/blog/understanding-d...

Then I switched to Magnesium Taurate with 125mg bio availability .

This is the one Sanjay recommended.

au.iherb.com/pr/Cardiovascu...

Strengths of magnesium are not always clear as fillers are used (Mag. oxide )

aor.ca/blog/supplement-ethi...

I would be a bit wary of any Brand saying it has more than 125mg per capsule as this is only possible even in 00 size with Magnesium Oxide being added.

This product says 400mg but its the way its expressed - per serve . 100mg is the capsule strength. Have to read the Supplement Facts to get the true comparison.

au.iherb.com/pr/Solaray-Mag...

This site does quality control and does examine the contents of health products , it is only available via subscription unfortunately .

consumerlab.com/results/bra...

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HiloHairy in reply to sleeksheep

Amazon has the Cardiovascular Research product for $22 us. They are nearly always the price leader in this sort of thing though some of the vitamin chain storefronts will meet their prices

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sleeksheep in reply to HiloHairy

Unfortunately ( or fortunately ! ) I live in Australia and Amazon charge freight so the lowest from Amazon is A$47.97 / iHerb orders over US$40 no freight plus I get 10% back as well as 10% off for 2 and I purchased when there was an extra 10% off.

So it worked out at A$34.06 / US$21.70.

Thats Australian VAT inclusive (+10% )

iHerb often have 15% off sales on top of 2 @ 10% off.

I also use ShopBack which gives another 5% , so all in all its still expensive but it could be worse .

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Mariaoliver in reply to sleeksheep

How many do you take a day?

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sleeksheep in reply to Mariaoliver

I take 2 x taurate and 2 x malate ( because I bought when on super 50% off thinking I was saving ..... ! ) Malate is also good for other things so I will probably keep getting both.

Because of years of damage done by statin,s ( muscle loss ) I,m trying to increase muscle mass and Magnesium is a very good fit with other amino acids.

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Mariaoliver in reply to sleeksheep

Do you few there is a ‘best’ time of day to take it? I’m on a beta blocker morning and night and don’t really know when best to try and fit it in, but I really want to start magnesium to see if there is an improvement. I’ve heard so many good things. Is there such a thing as taking too much?

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sleeksheep in reply to Mariaoliver

I was taking 3 Magnesium Chelate (Malate ) in the morning - equivalent to 300mg and it was good with the bowels , I have never experienced too much so its probably a matter of how your body reacts rather than too much. You will soon know !

If I,m a bit tired I take Magnesium - doesnt matter which one Malate or Taurate or when I take it. Generally thou take it with meals .

I,m on a Calcium Channel Blocker and take it with it in the morning.

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HiloHairy in reply to sleeksheep

Yes, you're more fortunate to live in Australia. At least until we get a sane president.

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southerngirl in reply to HiloHairy

Not appropriate comment here, please

Janith profile image
Janith in reply to southerngirl

Which President is she referring to? Just curious!

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HiloHairy in reply to Janith

Nicolás Maduro of course.

Sorry to have offended! It won't happen again.

I should have remembered that some in Southern Venezuela are still with him.

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Janith in reply to HiloHairy

Aaah! I thought you were referring to our beloved President Trump!!! Try powder magnesium.

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mbheart in reply to sleeksheep

Yes, the one you mention here that Dr. Gupta recommends is the one I use, and I notice a difference - Cardiovascular Research Ltd., Magnesium Taurate, 180 Vegetarian Capsules

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Mariaoliver in reply to mbheart

How many do you take a day?

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mbheart in reply to Mariaoliver

I only take 1 a day (actually I take it each evening) - maybe taking 2 would be good too but one is helpful.

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icklebud99

Me too, this would be very helpful if you find out john6.

Uniform96 profile image
Uniform96

Are they doing Manesium Taurate in a smaller capsule or different form yet? As I just can't swallow the large capsules!

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Deb1838 in reply to Uniform96

I don’t know uniform I must admit I struggle to swallow the one I take, it’s like a torpedo. It’s the same for the omega 3 I take.

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sleeksheep in reply to Uniform96

Its size 00 which is the biggest but not as large as some Fish Oil Capsules.

I fill my own capsules and its very easy to reduce down to size 1 if thats an easier size.

Drink water before swallowing and dont throw your head back , just swallow.

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Bmwpaul1971

Hey great news! Happy days 👍

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Profound15

How much taurate do you take a day please Deb

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Deb1838 in reply to Profound15

I am only taking one tablet a day at the moment

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christians2

Can I take magnesium while on a blood thinner?

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sleeksheep in reply to christians2

I am not on Warfarin but its recommended not to take together if you are.

Delay taking till the Warfarin is absorbed, best ask your Dr. if on something different.

I take Rivaroxaban at the same time

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Brizzy5000 in reply to christians2

Hi take magnesium turate and I'm on rivaroxaban anticoagulant, I have not had any problems so far, also told my cardiologist he said it was ok

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christians2 in reply to Brizzy5000

Thank you will look into it

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Wagonator

I take three 125mg capsules of magnesium taurate - one each morning and two each evening (based on my perhaps flawed assumption that absorption is better overnight). I read that taurate is kinder to the digestion - some people take taurine specifically for that reason, so I hope that taurate is the best of both worlds.

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Deb1838 in reply to Wagonator

I take mine at night not sure why probably as I take my other supplements then

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JulieTw33

I have been taking magnesium citrate and find it helps with the ectopics. I have pretty much zero now (only had a few since my ablation in Nov 2018). Also helps me sleep really deeply. Anyone know why one type of Magnesium is recommended over another?

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robert1957 in reply to JulieTw33

it's the bioavailability of the magnesium you are taking if you take 100mg of magnesium citrate you get about 30% magnesium per 100mg some magnesium's only give about 4% per 100mg so you need to research which magnesium is best for you. you need approximately 400 mg per day if you can get it from food all the better but its getting harder to get your daily quota from food alone due to soil depletion

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JulieTw33 in reply to robert1957

Thank you! That does make sense. I will do a bit more research before I purchase my next bottle.

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missyf323

Hi and great news ... Any thoughts on topical magnesium oil? Thanks.

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Tomred in reply to missyf323

hi i took magnesium oil for quite a few years hoping it would help but not so sure my a-fib happened more and more as time went by i also tried ionic magnesium and magnesium citrate and also tried taurate separately but with magnesium none really helped that i can say but i will try magnesium treonate,mag glycinate and all the the others available over time but im now taking bisoprolol and dronederone so if they are working i may not know if anything natural is having any effect but i think we need magnesium regardless

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missyf323 in reply to Tomred

Thanks for your response Tomred; much appreciated.

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robert1957 in reply to missyf323

yes the magnesium oil is good because it goes straight into your blood a bit expensive but you can make your own for a fraction of the cost.

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missyf323 in reply to robert1957

Hi Robert-the bottle I purchased was not over the top expensive at all, just wondering if it might help with the ectopics and maybe even some lingering AFIB since my cryoablation over 3 months ago. Thanks for your thoughts. Missy

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robert1957 in reply to missyf323

hello missyf323

please research magnesium and heart rhythm goodluck

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brit1

I have been using Cardiovascular Research Mag Taurate but recently (either posted here or elsewhere) it was brought to my attention that it may be high in arsenic! I notified the place I get it from locally and they are looking into it. Now I am scared to take it. If you google it links come up regarding this issue

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sleeksheep in reply to brit1

Research shows thats from 2016 - No further updates that I can see.

Not exactly high 0.279mcg but could be explained by the use of Rice in the formulation which is the most common source of inorganic arsenic.

Still better if it wasnt there.

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Jlaine

Great idea

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EricR

It was my pleasure. I am just passing on some knowledge I learned from this website that has helped me.

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51-1-64

Did you get these on prescription please?

I read about the Magnesium and bought some Mag Oxide as I have ectopics and SVT's as well. So I researched Magnesium. I read that Magnesium depletion is common in heart disease and it is given in hospitals for Angina, Chest pain, MI & Cardiac Arrhythmias.

There is a correlation between calcium & magnesium to regulate rhythm. You can test your magnesium level with a magnesium RBC lab test. I'm going to see if I can add that to my yearly labs. Now finding which magnesium is the best to take. I read that Dr. Carolyn Dean MD, ND wrote a book on arrhythmia's. has anyone read this?

I'm glad you are feeling better Deb. I am hoping to as well.

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Tomred in reply to

hi ive read and put into practice dr carolyn deans suggestions in remineralising the heart im afraid it hasnt helped me even though i continue taking minerals including magnesium and all the vitamins coq10 fish oil etc

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WeeLucy

Hi I am on 5mg Spixoban twice daily... does anyone know if I can I still take the Magnesium Taurate...unfortunately my consultant is very against natural products and ignored my input...however I would like to try this...Thank you. Poppy

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JaneChapple

Hi Deb

Can you tell me which make you bought if you dont mind? I bought mega mag liquid but still getting a few palpitations on it. There are so many different types and a lot have magnesium stearate in them which I gather is not good.

Thanks

Janexx

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Deb1838 in reply to JaneChapple

Hi Janet personally bought bio care but I don’t know if that is the best

Janith profile image
Janith

Magnesium taurate is fantastic. Never stop taking it. Ginger capsules seem miraculous if you experience palpatations!

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Janith

I take powder form of mag taurate ... l mix in with my tea in the mornings ... fab product.

Here's an article by Dr. Stephen Sinatra on magnesium:

heartmdinstitute.com/diet-n...

His book, Metabolic Cardiology, is really interesting, and basically goes into more detail about the various micronutrients, in addition to magnesium, that are so helpful for the heart.

Here's a bit about metabolic cardiology that I mentioned at another post:

heartmdinstitute.com/heart-...

There are videos of interviews of him on YouTube, too.

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sleeksheep in reply to

These are the supplement protocols of Dr. Stephen Sinatra as described in his book

Metabolic Cardiology. Dr. Sinatra, a board certified cardiologist, integrates

conventional medicine with complementary nutritional therapies since 1990.

CARDIAC ARRHYTHMIA,

PREMATURE CONTRACTIONS,

PREMATURE ATRIAL CONTRACTIONS,

INTERMITTENT ATRIAL FIBRILLATION

Multi-Vitamin

Fish Oil: 3-4 grams

CoQ10: 180-360 mg.

L-Carnitine: 1000-2000 mg.

D-Ribose: 7-10 grams

Magnesium: 400-800 mg.

Interesting read and the supplements are very similar to what I have been taking although I take L-Carnitine for building muscle mass. Good that there is a synergy .

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Thompson123

How long was you taking this when you felt a difference?

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EagleOwl

I have taken multivitamins and minerals ever since I was medically discharged from the army in 1972. Over the years I have researched alternative medicines and in recent years stated taking Q10, and magnesium for my fibromyalgia. and heart palpitations. A year or two ago, due I believe to stress and my inflammatory condition I developed mild HCF and AF [hard to diagnose because t was so mild and I have a normal resting heart rate of approximately 60 bpm]. I did take Ramipril and Bisoprolol for a couple of weeks last September, but I felt so bad I came off Bisoprolol after 8 days and Ramipril after 3 months. The Ramipril affected my eyes, aggravated my fibromyalgia, gave me muscle cramps in my legs and caused my right hip to become very painful. I have not yet completely recovered from its affects. During my research I found a 2003 research paper on complementary approaches to HCF and AF. This advised taking a number of amino acids, Q10, Magnesium, multivitamins etc. I have religiously taken the minimum dosage of the stated substances, and made my diet even more healthy by eating a variety of fruit and vegetables such as: berries, bananas, apples, kiwi, sprouts, broccoli, etc. I also take a brisk walk every morning and will be back on my bike as soon as I feel that the 'damn drugs' have cleared my system. My Blood Pressure is a regular: 125/75 [average], Heart rate: resting 59 bpm. and my AF has almost disappeared. I will post the recommended 2003 report substances next.

Yes they are costly but what price a healthy and happy life?

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Deb1838 in reply to EagleOwl

Wow how fantastic. I think it’s very inspirational to have such a hands on approach.

Well done you.

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