please could you advise me the magnesium supplement I should take that doesn’t give you upset tummy? I was recently with fast AF and was told my magnesium levels were a bit low. I have permanent AF and not had an episode for 2 years. My bisoprolol was increased to 7.5 from 5mg. I also have a pacemaker to stop low heart rate as well-set at 60 Beats per minute. Also would appreciate the dose. Thank you
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Hello, I take chelated magnesium by solgar, no tummy upsets.
Thank you
Hi
Solgar is a reliable manufacture.
I take B12 1000ug sublingual nugget 3 x times week to maintain 700-800 level. We oldies need levels up there.
I think that Bisoprolol is Mag.. Taurate in it.
I have a banana most days. Perhaps 1/2 is enough.
cherio JOY 75. (NZ)
Magnesium Glycinate. I obtain mine from company called Your Supplements....Amazon or direct from company
l use BetterYou magnesium spray so it is not taken orally. Works a treat. You can purchase it on EBay. I had same problem with stomach upset and cannot take any tablet form of magnesium.
I have the Better You spray (as well as glycinate tablets) but keep forgetting to use it.
LOL 😂 Glad l am not the only one who forgets things! I bought some magnesium salts to put in the bath, but always forget. Don’t know if they do the job, do you Jean?
I don't know, I've had a whole bag of magnesium salts for years and haven't used any.
Jeannie where do you get your magnesium and how much do you take? Is the spray for the body & which one please?
I was buying YourSupplements Magnesium Glycinate 80mg and taking just one capsule a day. Ran out of them and bought the Better You Body Spray. Keep forgetting to use it though - just sprayed now as you've reminded me. Ten sprays give 200mg of Magnesium Chloride.
Jean
Bought the oil in H&B. It's very moisturising and magnesium is said to aid going to sleep at night.
Oh ok. I’ll try H &B tomorrow. Thank you. I’ll look at the tabs there at the glycinate at the same time. Just hope it will help stop my heart “taking Off” again!
Hope it works for you.
Thank you Jean, so do I !
BobDVolunteer
If you are getting the squits then you are ODing. Take less.
It’s the pain with me Bob. I know they can give you the s………. as well if you take too much. 😂
I was just about to say that. If you take too much magnesium then they will give you the "squits" so take less and less until the "squits" stop or as my wife was told when she had to take them take a dose if you don't get the "squits" next day and so on until you do then go back to the dose where you don't! The Spray sounds like a much better idea so long as you remember to use it! 
Is it a body spray or mouth spray?
Interrupting, It’s a body spray. There are different types from BetterYou, Original, Sensitive( if it stings) or Night Time. I started with Sensitive and progressed to Original. I spray it on my legs and knees as l have arthritis.
I believe it's a body spray? I have not used one but may do no I have heard of them.
Body spray did nothing for me. Much simpler to swallow a mag glycinate tab !
Yes, that’s true, but l have a ritual before l get into bed and that’s one of them. Magnesium is supposed to aid sleep. Doesn’t always for me but ………
BobDVolunteer
Never had any pain and I have been taking magnesium for twenty years.
You never seem to have any problems Bob with medications. I think your stomach is lined with lead lol. At least someone is encouraging which always helps.
I make a point of never reading the slips which come with the pills so don't know what might happen so it deosn't. People always underestimate the power of the mind.
😂😂😂
so true Bob!
Reading your post and realised it mirrored me, exactly lol, same age, same diagnosis and my trusty pacemaker!!! I have had P/A/F for well over 20 years and 2 years ago broke my hip playing table tennis, recovered from that only to then find I had gone into perm.A/F and heart failure, upped Bisoporal gradually until now on 10mg daily plus Propanefone and a water tablet due to fluid overload, but I believe my Magnesium levels are ok however, my hubby has a form of Leukemia and he has a problem with terrible cramps so I bought him several health shop products to deal with this and non have upset his stomach so far. I also make sure he is drinking enough too and does not become dehydrated. He takes Science Fitness Magnesium Effervescent Vitamins daily in water, he also takes Magnesium salts ( tablet form before and after activity (he still plays competitive table tennis at 84!) He eats plenty of fresh veg which I think helps. So, might be an idea to ask at Holland and Barrett or Boots as to which they would recommend and/or ask your GP. Good luck!
Magnesium citrate is the one to avoid for problematical 'loose stools'; It's a natural 'osmotic' laxative in larger doses. (it draws water into the gut canal)
(On the other hand it's quite useful for constipation!)
Magnesium Taurate from Ethical nutrition. No tummy trouble with these. Many forms of Mag but Taurate is supposed to be better form for the heart. If your Mag is low your Pottasium might also be low as well. Body needs a lot more pottasium than Mag. Also if you take Vit D3, this uses up Mag, so you may need a bit more and font take them at same time. Dr. Gupta York cardio has good videos on Y tube of Magn efficiency and Afib
Thank you. My potassium was fine but will watch video.
Ancient Minerals magnesium skin lotion; I take the one with Melatonin added at night as it helps my sleep.
I take magnesium glycinate too but the recommendation on the jar is to take THREE of the large 300 mg capsules every day. I have only ever taken ONE and I still found it made, and continues to make, real difference in controlling my AF. Never trust the dosages on supplements as they are as interested in their profits not just your health and there is no statutory limits to what they recommend. Best thing with any supplements is to take sufficient to make a difference but not more.
Thank you for that advice
If you have genuinely low magnesium level, there is a reason since your daily food intake contains sufficient to supply all needs. Did you ask why this might have been? If you are taking other medicines, these can sometimes affect uptake of magnesium (for example, acid tablets for hiatus hernia, ulcer or indigestion). If you are otherwise low, are you eating a good mixture of foods, including vegetables, fruit, pulses and so forth?
The best absorbed form of magnesium comes from the food we eat, which contains abundant levels of the element, even if less than in the past. You will never get a stomach problem from natural magnesium of this kind. All green matter has it in, most obviously, since the green colour is from magnesium itself, but, in fact all colours of vegetables, fruits, pulses and the like are excellent sources.
If you still feel the need to take a synthetically produced chemical form, then all types of magnesium from the cheapest to the most expensive forms are well absorbed (despite the claims of sales and marketing departments otherwise). The quickest form to be absorbed, but by an insignificant small margin, is organic salts such as citrate, palmitate and taurate but the difference is of no consequence to your body.
You can get stomach issues from any form of magnesium, but only if you take it in large enough doses. The stomach effect is, in fact, the most important use of the element. It is an excellent and safe laxative. For this effect much larger doses are needed.
In terms of helping stop arrhythmias such as AF, there is no evidence whatever for this effect when taken by mouth, despite its internet reputation. Trials have failed to show any worthwhile effect, sadly. However, it is harmless to take it in small quantities, so does no harm.
Steve
This was told me after being admitted to hospital with very fast Af with very high heart rate and was told by cardio that my mag was low & may been a reason for the sudden rush. I eat a good diet and now dark choc every day. Thank you for your advice.
intravenous magnesium is used in A+E for AF in some patients.
Try sprinkle of 100% cocoa powder in cereals and pumpkin seeds both available from Costco, good source of heart healthy minerals like magnesium, potassium, zinc and iron. Dark choc with high cocoa content is recommended for same season, I like too 😎
I take 2 pieces of 85% dark choc. & a banana a day. I also have avocado once a week now
The green colour of plants is due to chlorophyll. The chlorophyll molecule contains only one magnesium atom. Plants look green because of the way they absorb and reflect light.
That is a rather odd way to explain colour and the reference to "one atom" is, well - what does it mean? Water contains only one atom of oxygen, but thankfully so.
Plants look green because they contain chlorophyll, a molecule that absorbs all the wavelengths of the spectrum apart from green, which it reflects back so our retinas can notice it.
Of course, plants don't need to be green to contain magnesium. Potatoes are a rich source, for example as are nuts and pulses.
Steve
It means that plants are not green because of their magnesium content as you stated .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlor...
Steve
I read the Pub Chem article on chlorophyll before replying to you.
That would have been edifying! 
I still have no idea what point you are making, I'm sorry. I'll blame my heavy cold for my thick head, which won't go away.
Steve
A cold at this time of year? That's unlucky. Hope it gets better soon. Are you sure it's not allergy? Ragweed season will be starting soon. Might already have started.
Thank you. I needed antibiotics for my throat, so it was an infection. I was sure it was covid last weekend but three tests were negative. It’s been a bad one.
Steve
I think I had covid in April but did not test. It was quite different from usual colds with a sore throat that lasted several days rather than one and a headache that was unusal too. The cough was drier than normal too. But as it was only the 2nd respiratory virus I have had in 8+ years I can't really grumble!
A neighbour told me yesterday that their relatives are just getting over what he called a "new" covid variant and had a very rough time indeed with it, far worse that their previous infection. I hadn't heard that before, but it is still, clearly, not "just a cold" as my dear brother likes to call it.
Stee
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Perhaps your brother 's experience of it was "just a cold"? Or maybe he has never had it. Certainly if what I had was covid it was no worse than many colds I have had and a lot better than some!
In fact, and oddly, he and his family had it early and quite badly, with lingering taste issues for months. He blames covid on the government, though, or Big Pharma, or those who really run the world, telling me that viruses don’t exist.
Steve
Cognitive dissonance. If viruses don't exist what made him ill and buggered up his sense of taste?
Probably contrails? 😳😂
permanent AF and no episodes for 2 years? That’s a complete contradiction. As for the magnesium: try taurate. Most efficient for AF and no gastrointestinal problems. At least, for me. Good luck!
Obviously I was in AF but it took off extremely fast with extremely high high rate. Been in permanentand stable for 2 years so couldn’t understand why this happened out of the blue. Thank you for your concern
Yes Model 52, I did not understand « have PA but had no episodes?????? »
Is it Paraxsysmol/ episodic AF? Or is the person in sinus rhythm?
I have Persistent AF and I am always aware of it . Never in sinus inspite of 2 failed ablations.
Also, if one eats properly, ( fresh , organic , unpasteurised food , a sensible balanced diet ) why are people chasing multiple overhyped pills and suplements ? Unless medication is causing a specific need for a supplement it seems a crazy waste of money.
Hi luludean. I have permanent AF but I’m not aware of it. Unless by by wrist. That was why it was so horrible for me. It suddenly took off and my heart rate escalated . It was extremely fast and it took another 10mg of bisoprolol to get it down on top of my usual dose of 5mg. Now on 7.5 mg. I also have a pacemaker which won’t allow my heart rate to drop below 60bpm. Hence the large doses administered. I do hope that doesn’t occur again. I really don’t want to talk about it any longer. Thank you for your concern. I have an excellent cardiologist & an excellent Arrythmia nurse and am very well looked after. ,
Hi
Maybe she means as her high heart rate is controlled she does not get the awful symptoms of high heart rate. They are many. at 186 bpm avge with no exertion Metoprolol made me breathless on any exterion and 24hr monitor showed pauses at night o my usual normal 47bpm. Bisoprolol 156 so beta blockers do not control my rapid h/beat AF.
My Locum suggested that I go to this interested Specialist. He introduced CCB Diltiazem. Wow, I dropped to 51 bpm on 1.2 dose 180mgs.
Now for 2 years 6 months:
120 Diltiazem AM for control h/rate - now 60s Day and leaves my 47bpm H/Rate Noght.
2.5mg Bisoprolol PM for control BP and Essentiak Tremor. 120-132/69-79.
We are all different.
cherio jOY. 75. (NZ)
If you take the magnesium in several small doses throughout the day rather than one large dose it is easier on the stomach. Unless you have a demonstrated deficiency I would not take more than the RDA for your sex. RDAs are usually the minimum required so as not to be malnourished but they are not necessarily ideal amounts for individuals so the RDA plus whatever you get from fruit and veg will not cause you to overdose. I use magnesium biglycinate and have had no digestive problems with taking it in 3 small doses spread out. It is considerably cheaper than taurate.
I take magnesium taurate with no side effects but a doctor oline recommends magnesium glycinate
I take Chelated Magnesium Glycinate for years. Chelated is best for stomach issues.
Thank you Dee
I get Dr's Best Chelated Magnesium Glycinate with additional Magnesium Taurate once per day. My supplements have kept me out of Afib for 3 years so far. As far as the dose, remember that a large percentage of magnesium is lost in urine so I would suggest to ask your doctor how low your magnesium levels were and increase accordingly for the 40% to 50% loss in urine. Just remember that leafy greens and spinach have magnesium if you include that in your diet.
I started mag at the suggestion of my gastric doc. He uses it for patients with IBS with constipation. Said it might help with sleep too. I started at 400. Way too much for stomach. Went down to 200, no effect at all. Take 250 now and it's just right. Feels like I just told a three bears story. Good luck. I sleep better than I have in years. I'm also using Ryze Mushroom Coffee and leaving off regular coffee and never have wine. Those things affect relux and AFib. So, mushroom coffee and mag are working for me.
it’s magnesium oxide 250 MG
I break a few walnut halves on my cereal every morning after reading they were a good source of magnesium and may be helpful for AF sufferers. I have never had my levels checked but I feel they do me good.
Best wishes
I use cardio tab brand, which happens to also be a product that my cardiologist sells online as well. I take 200mg twice a day. That amounts to 200 mg Magnesium Taurate and 200 mg Glycinate per day. My pills have half of each type, per pill.
I have not had any issues with an upset tummy and I think the Glycinate can help with sleep. Best to ask your medical professional what dose is best. My doctor runs blood tests regularly (or I can pay out of pocket and order any blood tests myself @ a local lab,to check my electrolytes to see that my magnesium, potassium, etc. are within the range. Never been too high, even with me taking 400mg a day (plus foods containing them).
I am on a proton pump medication (Omeprazole) due to acid reflux (caused by a hiatal hernia that was born with).Those pills make me need extra potassium and iron as well. I wish thatI could get off of the acid meds.
My cardiologist happens to have a company on the side that manufactures high quality heart-health pills like this and Omega 3,etc.
(He never tried to upsell me, I decided to use that brand but there are many other manufacturers).
I always avoid any supplements that are made in China and try to find third party tested.
Wishing you the very best of health and happiness!
Thank you
magnesium taurate two tablets
Hi Fibber222,
I just wanted to add, it might be worth asking fir your magnesium levels to be checked before you go down the magnesium supplement route, as although you know you are low in it, it would be better to know how low. It can also take a while to increase levels, sometimes up to a year, depending on dose taken.
I take a combination of magnesium taurate capsules ( by Viridian) and Magnesium Glyconate ( by Nutriadvanced ) and have done for the past 3 years. I take 550 mg in total a day of the two combined, spaced out through the day, which is more than the recommended dose for a woman. However, my levels continually are on the low side within the normal range, despite taking this, so I need this amount.
Once you have started the supplement, do ask for your levels to be rechecked after 3-6 months and then at least yearly.
Magnesium taurate and magnesium glycenate are two of the most absorbed magnesiums and most gentle on stomach.
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