Magnesium advice please

[foxglove1]

after a particularly scary A&E attendance on Sunday with fast AF I am looking at replacing the magnesium I had been taking to Vitabright (sellers) Magnesium Citrate which has had good reviews. They recommend 2 a day which is 444mg of elemental magnesium. As Im cautious by nature I plan to start on one 222mg of elemental magnesium. Has anyone any advice please. Btw A&E gave intravenous magnesium as well as a beta blocker which I do not normally take to get the fast rate down. Very scary and I have lost my confidence. thank you for any help

[Peddling]

Hello Foxglove, I’m surprised there has been no responses to your post. Magnesium is a recurring theme on this website as the pinned posts identify. You may have found an answer to your question among them. I don’t think you need to worry about taking too much magnesium as whatever you don’t need will be flushed through your system. I was interested to hear you were given an intravenous dose as part of your treatment. Where was this? I hope you are feeling better now. It’s a shock when AF comes roaring back into your life having left you alone for a while. I am now in persistent af and frankly find it a lot easier to deal with.

[foxglove1 in reply to Peddling]

sorry didnt say re iv of magnesium, the first episode was at Kingston Hospital and the one this morning at St George's in London

[Ppiman]

My trials with magnesium supplements led me nowhere but then I already eat plenty of green vegetables, so I'm getting more than I need in its most natural form. There is so much easily absorbed natural magnesium in green leafy foods, but this does seem to get shunned in favour of industrial synthetic forms. Taken naturally, it also comes with a whole range of other useful nutrients, and fibre, too.

I gather that intravenous magnesium is very different indeed from the oral form and affects the heart directly, which oral magnesium does not.

Steve

[Flossie72]

Hi Foxglove.I have had intravenous magnesium on my last three emergency stays in hospital. The first time it was that infusion which stopped my episode of A Fib. It did not help at all on the next two occasions, but then, no drugs did and I ended up on the dreaded Amiodarone and cardioversions. Since then I have taken Magnesium Tartrate capsules daily, but I only take half the recommended dose, or I suffer from 'magnesium tummy'.

Sue

[Peony4575]

That must have been a horrible experience for you and I completely understand why you have lost confidence . It’s like you are walking happily along your tightrope and suddenly look down and see the yawning chasm below you had previously ignored . I have only been taking Magnesium Citrate a short time but it has had beneficial effects on sleep, muscle tension and anxiety . And a beneficial effect on my gut . Some people are genetically predisposed to low magnesium and looking at symptoms I have had for decades wonder if I am one of them . I have a lot of of leafy green veg in fact I grow a lot but am sticking with my supplement . I use a company called BioCare I also take their Vitamin D3

[foxglove1 in reply to Peony4575]

Thank you Peony. Yes was ghastly and then it happened again this morning on waking and I ended back in A&E but my local one this time with a lower rate this time of 150.Ive been given the pill in the pocket and have been posting questions about Bisopropolol as I averse to pills. And as I said it was interesting to me this morning that I went into SR with intravenous magnesium and saline but no beta blocker. I have ordered some magnesium citrate which promises all sorts of things organic non this and non that and shall give it a go. What mg do you take and when? I have a very good diet and am a fit 72 year old love life but this has knocked me for six.

thank you Steve Ppiman Pedling and Flossie I feel for you with Amiodorone.

[Peony4575 in reply to foxglove1]

They recommend 3x 100mg spaced through the day with food. Am only taking two as tend to be cautious as I don’t seem to do well with pills though never had a problem with supplements .I personally could not tolerate bisoprolol though lots of people do . Had to change to atenolol to try and get off them having failed twice to get off bisoprolol. I would take it as a pip but not for me all the time. Am no good with beta blockers

[sleeksheep]

I have ordered some magnesium citrate

You may be one of the lucky ones who doesnt get a laxative effect from mag. citrate ,I have found that Magnesium Glycinate or Magnesium Taurate are the only two I can take.

[belindalore]

Some different magnesiums work differently in people. For me I use magnesium glycinate. Some like magnesium taurate or mag citrate. Magnesium oxide is basically useless. Also I take vitamin C with my magnesium. They help with heart rhythm for me. And magnesium is calming. I take them with food and watch my BP since magnesium can lower blood pressure. It does mine. I think you'll get a lot more answers. There are many good people on here who have done a lot of research and you will get good advice. Listen to your body and get to know it well. Good luck. 🙏

[john-boy-92]

I use AAVALAbs Fullmesium. It's now stocked by Amazon UK so I don't have to order it from AAVALABs in Finland. Magnesium may limit my fibrillation and flutter in cardio exercise, but I work harder if my heart rate is in the mid-160s, so I can't tell. It's never improved my slrrp though.

[foxglove1 in reply to john-boy-92]

thanks. how much do you take daily and have you had an ablation?

[john-boy-92]

I take two Fullnesium capsules a day - it has a mixture of magnesium types. The EP / Surgeon said that although I was very cardio fit, as I was early seventies it would fail in due course. I don't have any symptoms when I'm resting or my heart is at 180 or higher during exercise. However, a resting ECG or treadmill stress test with a display monitor shows AF with a slight delay to the P wave.

[foxglove1 in reply to john-boy-92]

Hi didn’t understand. What would fail in due course? Are we given up on in our early 70s?

Have you had an ablation? Confusing which route to go down aged almost 73 and previously v fit thanks for answering

[john-boy-92 in reply to foxglove1]

The ablation would fail. The EP / surgeon was from the Bristol Heart Institute. About three years ago, I recall that research in Bristol (University?) postulated that AF was caused by a defective group of brain cells. QED an ablation may not solve the problem. I'm 74 with quite a medical history that is still playing out. I think the view is that my body doesn't need interventions that may only solve a problem for a short while. For example, I'm on wait and watch for my prostate, rather than surgical intervention. AF doesn't cause me a problem: I've done 1.8 million metres on a rowing machine, and only colonoscopies, prostate issues and wet weather (I use the rowing machine outdoors) have prevented me from achieving 2 million metres. Once COVID has abated, I'll be a "mystery patient" once again for medical students. The scary thing about that, is third year medical students who haven't heard of FAST indicators caused by a stroke: typical me, I didn't have FAST indicators when I had a stroke.

I haven't had an ablation, as I took the advice of the EP / surgeon.

[foxglove1 in reply to john-boy-92]

Wow. Now I am really confused.