Magnesium

[BStanding56]

I am a lurker, but know too well what your going through.

I hear a lot of mention about magnesium, I would love to know more about this please. When I was very unwell years ago this group gave me so much help. Xxx

[Hidden]

Hi BStanding56,I can only tell you what I have heard myself,It seems people who are on PPI,s (omeprazole)etc.for a long period of time,it effects there magnesium levels,so they are advised to take a magnesium supplement to counter act this hope this helps.

[BStanding56 in reply to Hidden]

Thank you

[jeanjeannie50]

If you type magnesium in to the top right hand search box it will show you all the posts relating to magnesium. It's discussed on here in depth every few months.

Jean

[BStanding56]

Thank youx

[BobD Volunteer]

Just be aware that magnesium can be bad for some people and any supplement should be discussed with your medical team first.

[Tototcx]

There are some excellent videos on YouTube by Dr Sanjay Gupta who is a cardiologist in York, England. He has a lot of information about magnesium. Search for his name or Yorkcardiology.

[Elaine1951]

Since my AF episodes I take magnesium without fail everyday. I believe it has played a part in improving my overall health and I've had no further af attacks Ectopics yes but they have reduced hugely.

[BStanding56]

I met Sanja Gubta in Liverpool Heart and Chest Hospital but my care was taken over by Richard Snowdon, who was absolutely brilliant. I just wondered about the magnesium, I am on a cocoxtion of drugs, Amiodoryn is one, and although thankfully I am well , I am forever tired. I have had my medication reviewed but they are reluctant to change my medication as sinc I had my CRT pacemaker fitted I have only had 12 hrs AF in three years, which I did not know about but pacemaker reading picked up

[Polski]

My doctor told me that 'everyone' with AF was low in magnesium! Many people find it helps, but whether you need it or not cannot be shown by a standard blood test, as the body always makes sure that enough magnesium is in the bloodstream. So the blood test may say you're fine, when the body has very little left in store. It can take several months to increase your stores.

I found it improved my sleep, and other things as well, so I was very glad to supplement it, but it is not recommended if you have kidney issues.

Search on this site for other posts - there is lots of information available.

[sibelius]

Yes, I have supplemented with Mg for years (not Magnesium Oxide, which doesn't absorb as well - I use Mg Citrate at the moment). I find it helps reduce the incidence of attacks enormously. I proved this myself a couple of years ago because I was doing much better (on Bisoprolol) and dropped the Mg off - back it came!

And, in spite of also being hypothyroid, I feel generally much better.

Give it a go for a few months. It is difficult to overdose and as a supplement it is harmless - just do a bit of research.

[traveler65 in reply to sibelius]

@sibelius Hi I am not sure this is completely harmless. If you take a very large amount all at once I think you can make your heart rate so slow it will stop

beating. Also if people have a kidney problem, there are other considerations.

If you take hypothyroid meds, coffee will interfere, so you might want to separate the 2 by a couple of hours.

[PeterWh in reply to traveler65]

Traveler

See this post

healthunlocked.com/afassoci...

[traveler65]

@BStanding56

Hi

If you google Dr. Passwater and then search for his discussions about magnesium, especially his interviews with expert scientists researching magnesium you will get a lot of information about magnesium.

Also the magazine Whole Foods has a free on line edition and they have 3 publications with interviews with a magnesium research expert. It is understandable for a non scientist, but too comprehensive, lengthy and detailed for me to post here. However, it is very interesting.

The basic idea is that in order to be alive you require ATP (energy) to be produced by your mitochondria (energy factories in every cell), and the main requirements for the ATP to be produced are magnesium.COQ 10, and active thyroid free T3. When I say energy, I do not mean like jumping up and down, running a race, dancing all night, screaming and cheering at a soccer game, I mean the energy required so your heart beats normally, you breathe , you digest food, etc in other words so you are alive.

The main magnesiums currently thought to be great for afib are magnesium L-threonate, magnesium glycinate, and magnesium taurate. You should read as much as you can about all this. Don't just run out and buy them and take them in a cavalier manner because you can kill yourself by doing this. You should not take more than a total of 500-600 mg per day and should not take them at the same time as certain meds. as they will interfere with each other

(.By the way if you take thyroid hormone Rx. do not take within 3 hours of drinking coffee (even decaf) because something in the coffee (not caffeine) impaairs the absorption of thyroid in the intestines and when you tell your dr. your thyroid is not working and tests show it to be too low so he raises it, then when you do not drink coffee you will have thyroid too high, and your dr,. will not be able to figure out why your thyroid is too high and then too low. So no coffee till 3 hours after thyroid. I had this going on and my dr. did not know about it--however a doctor in italy published a paper on it because he noticed his patients having this wierd problem with the thyroid rx. and had them keep a journal about what they ate and took etc. and noticed the coffee reaction.)--love those Italian scientists and doctors they do such great research on nutrients and foods to prevent illness.

Also magnesium L-threonate is the only supplement mentioned here that passes the blood brain barrier so it is more stimulating and should therefore be taken in the morning rather than later. The hypothalamus in the brain controls involuntary functions such as heart rate, breathing, digestion etc. So in this way the L-threonate magnesium is helping regulate the heart via this route.It would also be helpful to coordinate the 4 brain waves by using something like Tai Ci,Qi Gong, Zen meditation because this will make the heart function more normal also.

You can read about the brain wave concept on a web site called biofoundations.org--search there in the upper right space for Brain Waves or for coordinating the 4 brain waves. You can find a tai chi class in your country by doing an internet search for International Taoist TAi Chi Association. Then look for a class in your country--then for one closer to your zip code (usa has zip codes) or town.I am sure these things will benefit you greatly.

Also look in to vitamin K2--MK4 and MK7 by supplement or eating natto ( which has all the MKs-13 of them which activate different proteins for maintenance in different parts of the body-ex)--so these cofactors that activate maintenance proteins all over the body will let these proteins do there job and nothing ends up in the wrong place --like calcium plaque in your arteries instead of calcium in your bones--so you can avoid heart plaque, osteoporosis, alzheimers, multiple sclerosis and other alleged "disease of aging" which are really nutrient deficiencies. You can read about this in Dr. Bruce Ames book "The triage theory of aging".

[BStanding56]

Thank you so much, information very much appreciated