Ozempic-Anti Cancer?

[TEBozo]

I'm 10-15 pounds above ideal weight, not on any form of ADT. Since cancer feeds on sugar, does it make sense to use Ozempic to reduce blood sugar to presumably starve the cancer?

[mrscruffy]

Seeing as all cells feed on glucose I am thinking no. I am on Ozempic for diabetes haven't seen any changes in my PSA or cancers

[Tall_Allen]

You cannot starve cancer without starving yourself to death.

[elkmt in reply to Tall_Allen]

could it be that high insulin (caused by high blood sugar) enables PC to utilize sugar for growth

[Tall_Allen in reply to elkmt]

The natural history of PCa is that it prefers to metabolize lipids and proteins at first, and later comes to metabolize sugars too. Insulin blockers (IGF) have no effect. A rapidly growing cancer cancer cell will eat anything it can get, including cannibalizing healthy cells.

[elkmt in reply to Tall_Allen]

i find the word "later" interesting. since sugar does not light up PCa on pet scans does cancer transition over time towards more sugar , in which case high blood sugar would encourage growth. their seems to be a connection between high blood sugar and aggressive PCa.

[Tall_Allen in reply to elkmt]

No, it doesn't work like that. In late stage PCa, the cancer metabolizes glucose; however, It does NOT follow that "high blood sugar would encourage growth." There is more than enough glucose at low or normal serum levels to feed the cancer. More glucose does NOT mean more metabolism. Even if it were possible to deprive the cancer of all glucose (which of course it isn't), the cancer would switch to an alternate energy source.

[TEBozo in reply to Tall_Allen]

So what's the optimum cancer diet.

[tarzan11 in reply to TEBozo]

Eat and drink in moderation. Exercise in moderation. Follow a sensible treatment plan for what stage you are in. Enjoy your life. The rest is in God's hands. This has worked for me for 20 years of active prostate cancer.

[Tall_Allen in reply to TEBozo]

There is no such thing as an "optimum cancer diet," other than eating so that your overall health is optimized. One wants one's body to be in its best shape to withstand the ravages of cancer, cardiovascular disease, aging, and whatever else happens. The healthiest diets are as many calories as one needs, but no more, and a variety of foods: proteins, fats, and complex carbs. No radical diets. Plant sources of fats. Highly colored fruits and vegetables. Lots of fiber. Eat with others, when possible. Treat yourself once in a while - don't deprive yourself!

[TEBozo in reply to Tall_Allen]

Had my first ice cream in 2 years! Lol

[Hidden]

Cancer doesn't feed on sugar. I thought that falsehood had finally been dispelled. Cancer feeds on your body, that's why we die. It's scientifically impossible to starve cancer and stay alive.

[TEBozo in reply to Hidden]

That's depressing. Lol

[Hidden in reply to TEBozo]

It certainly is. 😀😀

[Hidden]

Isn't that the designer weight loss shots that cause vomiting??😗

[KocoPr in reply to Hidden]

It is and can also cause serious side effects.

Why mess around with your bodies autonomic nervous system and slow down your motility. just cut down on carbs and you will lose weight.

[dhccpa in reply to KocoPr]

Processed carbs? Surely not high fiber carbs.

[KocoPr in reply to dhccpa]

Well you’re talking net carbs. I agree processed carbs are totally bad, but Still if your type 2 you need to eventually cut down the carb totals.

[dhccpa in reply to KocoPr]

Gotcha. I steer clear of all processed carbs nowadays.

[SteveTheJ in reply to Hidden]

Not designer, and it can cause nausea but doesn't always do that. There are excellent anti-nausea medications if it does. Don't take it to fight cancer, that's silly.

[lowT163 in reply to SteveTheJ]

I did fine on Ozempic until I hit the 1 mg shot. Then I was nauseous 24/7. However I wasn’t hungry. Couldn’t exercise was miserable but if I had a pill for the nausea it would work.

[GeorgesCalvez]

Sugar in the form of glucose is the cash in hand of all the organisms on earth that I can think of. Your body will do anything it can to maintain a healthy level of circulating glucose, failure to do so will result in death.

Cancer patients that maintain a healthy lifestyle, exercise regularly, etc do seem to live longer than those that do not. Bearing in mind that you are excessively overweight, I would say that regular light exercise and watching your diet is that way to go.

[London441]

It makes sense cosmetically. In other words, no.

[maley2711]

where did you read that? don't you think if that was a good way to forestall cancer progression , one of your Docs might have mentioned so???

[85745]

Great question, first let me say the idea of ideal body weight I feel is to broad, yes it's good to use in the context with other factors to keep in my mind, example overall body fat and muscle. My thought unless you feel like your carrying that ten pounds of weight like it a burden physically I myself would not be concerned. Yes on the lower blood sugar for me anyway. I do that by way of diet and supplements I keep my glucose range from77 to 90. I have heard of metobolic treatments driving levels down to 50. well below normal range. Insulin plays a major role I read. As far as the drug you mentioned I don't know but would consult with your doctor on benefits vs side effects short and long term if any along with your current glucose levels etc.

[Bret5]

Over 3 years ago, well before my PC, I found myself about 20 pounds over weight. Just had added it on over the years. Not horrible compared to where so many people are these days but I wasn’t satisfied. I used the Weight Watchers App on my iPhone and lost those 20 pounds within 6 months and have kept them off. Weight Watchers is one of the few programs that encourage a balanced healthy eating program, not some unbalanced fad diet. . You also get extra food credit for exercise. I don’t use the app now because I learned and ingrained good habits. I highly recommend. Extremely affordable.

[dadzone43]

Every body cell "feeds in sugar"

. I do not know the origin of this myth. This misbelief is harmful. I am sure that the powerful companies that make and market Ozempic would love to have people believe this.

[anonymoose2]

Ozempic has worked wonders for a few plump friends of mine. Incredible product for people who want to loose weight. What I’ve seen with Ozempic it greatly improves QOL and when you have PC that is very important for someone terminally ill. So it won’t slow down the cancer like ADT therapy but it will give most people a better QOL. I just got back from a 3 week trip and I had cake and ice cream and really enjoyed my QOL. PC isn’t going to tell me what I should eat or not eat. It’s robbed me enough.

[GumpaD28 in reply to anonymoose2]

I agree im pretty much the same. If i want cake and ice cream i eat it. Granted not over weight and do eat healthier ✌

[j-o-h-n]

Go for the ozobet gelato instead...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Sunday 07/30/2023 1:46 PM DST

[YYJguy]

Your body needs glucose to survive. Fruit sugars from Berries, Watermelon, Apples,All good.

It is the nasty sugars ..high fructose corn syrup, maltodextrin, etc... to avoid no matter what.

And they put it in EVERYTHING because it is highly addictive and causes cancer and other maladies.

For weight loss...go plant based raw whole food- plant based diets melt pounds and fat away.