Right on. I cried with my wife at first pathology report, It was NOT what we had been told to expect. Found this forum and Cleodman was right there. Same PSA, same treatments, same Gleason, same mets and stage 4. Watched all the way through his posts on his journey. Thankfully the treatments I have had have worked better for me than they did for him. . WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT is something we see over and over. We lost a great warrior and orator when he passed.
Scott, Why is this man who accomplished so much in his short life gone and an old buzzard such as me whose accomplishments are insignificant still here? God certainly does work in mysterious ways!
My mom used to say the same thing, my friends are gone why am I still here, she was 95 when she passed of heart failure in a care facility. We all question our mortality but we just have to belive God has plans for each of us and when he calls us home our time is done on earth. We are in his hands and we should enjoy our lives as best and know there is a reason some are here longer than others, keep the faith it is important with this disease.
While I don't wish to attack anyone on this site, I find it inappropriate for people to mention their religious beliefs here in a way that implies those beliefs apply to all of us. I don't have to believe God has a plans for each of us. I choose to believe in science and medicine, not in God. And- I don't blame God for my cancer, nor do I thank him for the science, medicine and doctors that have helped me fight this disease. Despite our very different beliefs, I hope you respond well to treatment and live a long and fruitful life.
I was not implying to all on here just my believe, I am a christian others may not believe in a god and that is not my concern. Just the way I feel so we disagree , I was responding to someone else , I agree his death was not timely and my sympathy go to his family. I do not blame cancer on God but I thank him for the doctors and medicine to help fight this disease. I am not giving god the credit for his death but just another way to look at all those who we think passes against what we thought was not their time. I pray for those who have this disease to give them guidence and strength to fight on until science comes with a cure or new meds . I do not believe in santa clause as kids would but I have a strong faith that has helped me accept what I have and know there is a reason even though I do not know why I have this disease .
I do not believe in god but if people want to send there wishes to prey then so be it they are trying to give comfort in their own way because what ever way helps to try and get through this shitty disease then so be it this site is not based on religion background race money just on help and hope IF you need it your choice please do not put this site down it helped me a lot because I chose to let the people in to help me
As I too you I have a new partner friend and we have found out he has bladder cancer it just seems to go on and on but if u need to talk about prostate cancer i am always here for u xx
I am ok with you sharing your beliefs with the above reply and I am ok with Muffin’s reply. It’s ok to believe differently. Hope you too have the best outcome with your journey . It’s all good.
IEveryone here has been a hero for someone .Shooter was one of the first that helped keep me sane when I first found out about my husband. This young man that died and fought so hard broke my heart. I read his post and he left with such dignity . I guess what I was trying to say is it sometimes when you're wondering why am I still here, maybe one reason is you can help that one person that writes in and feels that life is over now. I know I'm thankful for every single person to help me through that begin stage.
Wow, thanks for the compliments. Hope to be around and commenting for a long time to come... Sadly my last 4 PSA tests have all been trending up. 10%, 50%, 60%, and yesterdays only 33%. Almost good news. I was expecting higher increase. New scans ordered, just awaiting approval from VA. Wish me luck and a long life.Doug
P.S. Scott, I'm going to try to be around at least as long as you. (Lulu700)
I could not stop thinking about this yesterday, infact today as well. So very very sad to read, What a truly brave and caring man , the world is a sadder place now without him. God Bless and rest in peace Cleodman.
This brings to truth that we ,the ones fighting the beast should live in appreciation of each day .. Cleodman fought pc and his love for cleodwoman is eternal . Love is all there is my friend . I pray for those alone in this journey .They are stronger that I. . I am thankful that I have love . Thank God for today .
My dx was exactly the same . In this we are all human . Therefor we can relate to each other’s plight . I just talked to my long term buddy . He is sitting in the doctors office waiting biopsy results .Psa 160 , fu@@! I feel for him right now .
It’s really hard to process Cleodman’s passing— it’s surreal how such a young, healthy, talented individual could be so affected. It hit me in a way that made me more mindful that this disease can take us anytime. I will think of him and how well he handled it when that time comes.
Dear brother Bodysculpture,You are so humanly overwhelmed by this poignant story of Cleodman and his grief-striken wife because he was such a compassionate man and a learned physician who faced death with dignity at the prime of his life, at such a young age. Even I remained shaken for a couple of days after reading the well written message by the Cleodwoman. I thought of telling something to comfort you and share with you the agony of his untimely passing. There is this book I read in 2017 in preparation to face and accept death with dignity in case I have to give up the battle against this beast. The great book " WHEN BREATH BECOMES AIR " written by Paul Kalanithy. He tells ardently what makes life worth living in the face of death. Paul Kalanity was a neurosurgeon and a writer. He held degrees in English Literature, Human Biology and History and Philosophy of Science and Medicine from Stanford and Cambridge universities before graduating from Yale School of Medicine. He also received the American Academy of Neurological Surgery's highest award for research. He served as a chief surgeon and his wife as a specialist physician in the same hospital. At the age of 36 Dr.Paul Kalanithy was diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer. At this time his wife was in advanced pregnancy. So one day he was a doctor treating the dying, the next he was a patient struggling to live. He could not continue his battle even for one year. He died in March 2015 aged 37. He is survived by his wife and their newly born daughter. I think you should read this book in honour of our fallen great hero Cleodman 🙏.
Indeed.... seeing Cleodman succumb when he was doing everything RIGHT to fight this, and being a doctor on top, struck me as the very example of universal unfairness.
But we are all struggling up that metaphorical beachhead in our fight against APCa, aren’t we? Together and yet apart, some running, some falling, some crawling, some unable to move....hoping against hope that the bullet our own body created doesn’t strike us down before we are ready, and always holding the thought somewhere within us that we will not only survive, we will thrive...that we will win despite the odds.
And you know what? Some have beat the odds, and they are here in this forum. Maybe you are one of them, maybe I am.... but this thing can’t take us all. And those behind may be the beneficiaries, learning from our fight.
I take solace in that even as I truly grieve Cleodman and the reassuring presence he represented to me on this forum.
Even though my boo has gone two years ago I always come on here to give me strength I miss him every day but we all are here wives children brothers sisters mothers all of us to help each other through this horrible disease and to know that even when he has gone he hasn’t because he is a warrior on here and the world to his family xxx
Bodysculpture, thank you for this post. I needed to read this today as the days are getting harder and I miss Cleodman more and more each day. This Saturday will be one month and I’m still wondering how is this possible.
Cleodman and I also cried over the death of other warriors in the last four years. I never wanted to be the one to have to write such post.
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