Is anyone familiar with treating oneself with DMSO (dimethylsulfoxide)? I have seen a report (cancertutor.com) saying you can use it at home with either colloidal silver OR chlorine dioxide OR MSM. Allegedly, any of these three latter substances are said to break down the cancer cell wall, as long as the DMSO carries it in. And if it works, you actually turn cancer cells back into healthy, normal cells!
I have delayed scheduling my prostadectomy, believing there is something "out there" like this that can heal my prostate (Gleason 7, PSA 7.66). If anyone has any information or experience using DMSO, please reply. I know DMSO is a solvent and requires caution.
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DMSO is not listed anywhere in the NCCN Guidelines for Prostate Cancer. There's probably good reason for that ... i.e. lack of scientific evidence and any valid clinical trials that have resulted in FDA approvals.
You might possibly find some better use of your time by learning about and perusing the "Questions to Ask" links for Interviews with different types of initial treatment specialists at this helpful website. (Thank you, Tall Allen)
I have to admit--you had me concerned for a moment! Rather than MMS, the acronym for "Miracle Mineral Solution" you typed MSM in your reply. I take methylsufonylmethane, MSM, as a joint, tendon and ligament supp. Being a vegan it is helpful.
The first M in the acronym MMS stands for "miracle"! That should be a tip off right away--the old westerns where the wagon comes into town and the guy in a suit with a "medical degree" sells bottles of special potions? Descendants of one of those folks maybe? Touted as being good for autism, cancer, HIV/AIDS, hepatitis, flu and maybe removing stains from fabric as when mixed with citric acids it becomes a bleach?
Sometimes "self medicating" can have an adverse reaction--
Not only is it a solvent, it transports many things through the skin barrier. Colloidal silver is toxic internally. Chlorine dioxide is a powerful oxiding agent - would definitely kill you. MSM is probably harmless. Every cancer is different, be wary of online sites that claim cures for generic cancer.
There are other treatments aside from prostatectomy.
I have seen a fellow in a supp store that is a light --hue--of--BLUE!
TOO much colloidal silver and the man is still taking it! He is convinced about it's therapeutic properties I guess.
Is everyone getting MSM mixed up with MMA? This copied from the FDA News Release from the link provided by "ctarleton"--Thank you ctarleton!
"Miracle Mineral Supplement, MMS, Chlorine Dioxide (CD) Protocol"
MMA isn't approved by any agency or entity according to that FDA news release but the FDA has issued warnings about it!! Oh yeah!
Currumpaw
I did it several times in an Iv by a naturalpathic oncologist . I did it and 50 grams vitamin c IV’s my first year and a half with pc . I went into remission now over four years. I feel these IV’s and a radical diet and nutrition change helped so far to keep me here and pc away. We all know APC will stay around til our end . Keep it away any way that you see fit . Good luck
I did a holistic diet flip as well as ivs and adt and imrt. The whole enchilada. I feel the natural stuff and the ivs got me through a rough patch . To date I eat raw organic ginger , and turmeric every day .
So you had DMSO and vitamin C in your IV? No silver or other stuff? Everyone I know here is telling me to get the prostate out. I have made drastic changes and watched 6 modules of "Chris Beat Cancer", but wish I knew which way to go . My PSA is a steady 7.7. Thanks for your message.
I too searched the web for options. I had none besides the path I took imrt and double adt . With k failure doing nothing was not an option .. My initial psa was 8 going up to a high of 20 now undetectable for over four years. No pc treatment are without side effects and pain . But if your confid
I gave it a long and extended try and found it ineffective for PCa. Firstly, it tastes absolutely awful. (upchucky awful), taken orally. Secondly it is a powerful solvent that passes through skin and tissues, carrying anything dissolved in it to blood vessels. This can be dangerous and cause skin/tissue reactions to whatever is dissolved. That can be internal or external. By itself its not toxic but whatever else it comes into contact with can provoke an excessive immune response. My recommendation is to avoid. Colloidal silver and chlorine dioxide are not human friendly substances either.
MSM is the abbreviation for Methylsulphonylmethane. 750 mg. My brand is Solaray. Other ingredients with MSM are Boswellia 30 mg, Devil's claw 25 mg, Turmeric 20 mg, and Cat's claw 10 mg. You might find information on MSM on Google.
Hi. You need to speak to a good urologist about your options, one of which will be RP. I wanted to avoid RP, and opted for HIFU. So far so good. There is laser ablation, and TULSA PRO might be suitable. I wanted to avoid radiation and definitely wanted to avoid hormone deprivation. Both of these options are dti available to me in the future if the bastard returns. Don't panic. I take MSM which is a breakdown product of DMSO and is easier to deal with. I use it to reduce inflammation. My C Reactive Protein was 7... Now down to 2 and hopefully still dropping. Inflammation pushes up NF kB which can drive cancer, so aim to reduce inflammation while you are pondering which unpalatable route to take for your main treatment. Your (good) uro will guide you, but start at a high quality teaching hospital which offers all options. Don't let the local butcher snatch your prostate because he needs a new car. Good hunting...
I appreciate your good advice, especially about keeping inflamation down. HIFU isn't an option since I have multiple tumor spots. So I will increase my MSM pills for now. I feel I'll probably have to schedule the RP surgery in PIttsburgh eventually. Just turned 69 and the love life has been in decline anyway. I find myself getting envious of all the robust, young studs in their 20's who have their organs in top working order, lol.
If you are thinking of an ablation, have focused laser ablation, FLA. I believe I gave you info before. The only way I would suggest it would be after a real time, in bore, biopsy having a mp 3.0T MRI given by a top expert who only biopsies that which needs to be biopsied and doesn't do a saturation biopsy which can cause as much damage as a bad prostatectomy! None of the garbage biopsies used in the past. If mostly Gleason 6's are found and you get the more aggressive spots ablated it might work. If one of the top docs doing FLA thinks it possible they'll likely do it--with the admonishment that it may only delay other more aggressive treatment. The last I knew FLA is much more accurate than HIFU and a smaller area of tissue needs to be ablated.
Chris of "Chris Beat Cancer" is one of the lucky ones. He put together many different ideas. People respond differently. How much did you spend for the "modules"? I have probably found all that on line. Be careful of what is on line. There is someone that claims that large amounts of iodine will cure Peyronie's. Uh huh! Okay!
HIFU is suitable for whole gland ablation if that's what you need. I had two areas needing ablation from the apex across the centre line. Currumpaw also speaks the truth. If focal treatment fails you can still get the snatcher in. I decided it's not for me and Mr G3+4. I may have got this wrong but you have to come to your own terms with this. Only my death certificate will reveal how good my decision was. I am about to trial serrapeptase as an anti inflammatory, and hopefully get rid of excess fibrin coking up my pipes. Cheers
Hi. I heard for me in PA, the nearest HIFU treatment is probably in Cleveland. My doc discouraged it. Is it for whole gland, really? My cancer is confined to the left side, several spots. Good luck with serrapaptase, really.
DMSO has been promoted for decades as an alternate treatment for just about everything. Besides making your mouth taste like a garlic bulb, not much else happens. I would not want to trust my life to an industrial solvent manufactured in China or India. Please. You are smarter than that.
For what it is worth. Since my situation is similar. Gleason 7 Stage two. My PSA has averaged 8 for 5 years. I have done nothing but supplements and diet and I am still here, without any symptoms. I rejected surgery mostly because I have had too many in the past. I am just rolling the dice at 72. Maybe do a genetics test like I did. Mine showed no aggressive markers which helped formulate my decision. Good luck.
Glad to hear of your success so far. Seems we have similar diagnoses/conditions.
I too searched the web for options. I had none besides the path I took imrt and double adt . With k failure doing nothing was not an option .. My initial psa was 8 going up to a high of 20 now undetectable for over four years. No pc treatment are without side effects and pain . But if you have confidence in your surgeon it’s possible curative. No guarantees for any of us . I will not recommend to anyone to delay treatments. Apc once gone wild is a brutal beast yo control. Your best shot at living many years is surgery if you’re a candidate . Good luck .
True. I would not not recommend not doing anything. It is just for now, given my age, genetics, past medical history, for me, at 72, that is what I have decided to do. That may not be appropriate at all, for others. It is just one example to consider. That is what this site is for. All of the possibilities. Like I said ,you are rolling the dice. If you chose to avoid medical intervention. Is it the right way t go? Only he can decide. Best of luck for everyone.
Goldenfoot, I do admire that you are doing what's best for you. Too many people make rush decisions. I think I will schedule surgery with much hesitancy because I still can't believe this is happening, that giving up is right. I think I'm worried about the initial pain, maybe more than the side effects. You are right, gotta do something.
Initial pain???...... I had a RPD (old type not robotic) and two hernias repaired. In on a Friday out on a Sunday. Only pain is the pain in the ass wearing a foley for about 5 days.....
LOL, Well at least I know the Difference between a proctologist and a gynecologist..... Difference from [thumb.......................................................toIndex Finger].
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