Anyone know anything about this supposedly pioneering immunotherapy in Germany ? I’ve read chunks of a very illuminating and detailed history of this man’s work by Ralph Buch.
Dr Lentz claims 85% remission of cases of Advanced Prostate Cancer. Not cures necessarily (although some long term remissions) and way less side effects than conventional immunotherapy. Treatments don’t make the cancer resistant though since it’s addressing the immune TNF response in cancerous cells.
Very expensive though (60k -180k) apparently due to the huge investment in the tech which has been evolving for years. Also patients need to spend 1-3 months in Germany with treatments almost every day for a few hours.
My Ac225/lu177 therapies gave only short term gains and I’m wondering what the next step is. I’m keeping an open mind about Dr Lentz because a good friend of mine personally knows two people who were cured of breast cancer with an older version of this treatment.
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Dr. Lenz lost his permission to treat patients in the US. So he offers that from outside the U.S. The treatment costs are very high and the treatment is apparently ineffective. Many patients already die in Germany.
Just because FDA created problems for him doesn’t mean it’s not a valid treatment. As with any cancer treatments, many patients have survived too. I was hoping for a more recent analysis that isn’t relying upon old information. Has no-one here explored this possibility?
"a good friend of mine personally knows two people who were cured of breast cancer with an older version of this treatment." - this is typical in scams-- it's always a mysterious friend of a friend. I suggest you ask your good friend for the contact info of the two people he personally knows with breast cancer. I expect, he will say "well, they weren't my friends, but they were friends of a coworker or someone he's lost touch with." Scams depend on rumor mills like that. If I'm wrong, talk to them.
Also, the website treats cancer generically - a sure sign of a scam. Immunotherapies (other than Provenge) have so far been dissappointing for prostate cancer.
Hi, Beata. I can't speak to the number of treatments, but $50,000 seems to be the starting point. Families have spent anywhere from $180,000 to $250,000, and treatments spanned 3-18 months. (Treatments generally stopped because the patient passed away.) As I have been told by an expert who studied this protocol, only patients who could afford continued treatments saw continued results. In other words, treatments will last as long as you can pay for them. Please consider other treatments first. My best to you and your husband.
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Beata February 16, 2018 at 5:01 AM
Dear Alison, thank you so much for your swift reply! We are also looking at other (less expensive) options, hence we don't have this kind of money. Have you found any other positive feedback from dr. Lentz' patients? I couldn't find much on the Internet. Also not many negative either, which is a bit strange. Is there a non-disclousure agreement or something like that? I'm just curious.
Have a great weekend and again, thank you a lot! Warm regards, Beata
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Alison R. Lockwood February 16, 2018 at 12:42 PM
Beata, in answer to your first question, no. I have a folder full of stories from families whose loved ones came home worse or not at all. I have zero stories from patients who survived. The one personal recommendation was from a man whose wife died during treatment. (See Lee Holsey's comment above.) I have letters from oncologists who questioned the treatment but didn't want to cheat their patients of hope (and later regretted not speaking up). Yes, Dr. Lentz's patients are required to sign a nondisclosure agreement, which may explain why you can't find much. On the other hand, you'd think that patients who found a viable weapon against cancer would share their news on social media. I keep looking. Please enjoy the weekend with your husband, and keep me posted.
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