Aspirin and PSA

[Spaceman210]

prostate.net/articles/can-a...

[NPfisherman]

Thanks for posting....I take ASA daily...

Fish

[Jimhoy]

Good to know that my coronary artery disease and arthritis are starting to pay off!!!!

Jc

[tallguy2]

Thanks for posting this. Do you know what dose they are talking about? I was taking the little 81-mg aspirin once a day but stopped that a year ago when I had re-occurrence.

[Spaceman210 in reply to tallguy2]

No, I don't -

[AlanMeyer in reply to tallguy2]

I looked up one of the articles cited in the study and found this sentence:

"Subjects were categorized aspirin users if they reported taking any form of aspirin at enrollment in the WW study. Otherwise they were categorized as non-users for aspirin". Not real helpful is it?

Too many decades have passed since I studied statistics, but the number of men in the study didn't seem very high to me and the PSA difference between the aspirin users and non-users didn't seem very large to me.

You can see the article at: sci-hub.tw/ Type "20135645" (no quotes) in the search box.

Alan

[Scorpio99 in reply to AlanMeyer]

I keep posting at this site so that I can pass along my experiences in getting my advanced prostate cancer, with a PSA score of 21 when first diagnosed in Oct. 2016, to recently declared "cancer free", PSA .01. The key to any successful cancer treatment is early diagnosis and proper treatment. Like a lot of guys I knew nothing about prostate cancer and almost got diagnosed too late. The problem is that men don't talk about these kinds of health issues with each other the way women do. My sister got her breast cancer diagnosed much earlier than my prostate cancer because she and her friends talk about these kinds of things and she knew well the need for regular checkups, whereas I didn't even know what a PSA test was! I have become an evangelist since being treated and tell every guy I talk with over the age of 40 how urgent it is that he get yearly PSA tests and know what the results mean.

[j-o-h-n in reply to Scorpio99]

I do the same and stop when I see their eyes glaze over.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 05/03/2019 6:53 PM DST

[Hidden in reply to Scorpio99]

Dreaded DRE tests too. My PSA was only 2.7 when a DRE revealed an abnormality that got me sent for a biopsy. Gleason 8. If I had relied solely on PSA reading I'd have been in real trouble.

[Tommyj2 in reply to AlanMeyer]

Alan...

Perhaps YOU could see the article but when I went to science - hub and put in the code I was directed to another page ( in Russian it appeared)... asking for still another code : ) Afraid my Russian is a little Rusty so no go today...

[AlanMeyer in reply to Tommyj2]

Hmmmm.

I tried it again today (June 2, 2019) by clicking on the link in my posting. HealthUnlocked took me to a page that said "Redirect Notice ..." I never saw that before, but I clicked on the link. The sci-hub.tw page came up and, when I put in the number, I saw the article.

Maybe the website was down that day and some Russian who maintained it put up a "Sorry, we're out to lunch today".

Or maybe some Russian decided that this was a pirate website and found a way to attack it. Who knows?

Alan

[Currumpaw]

Thanks Spaceman210!

There was a posting and responses about curcumin this earlier week. That curcumin may mask PSA results.

This excerpt from the study you posted:

The authors concluded their findings supported evidence that aspirin has an impact on PSA, especially among men who had never smoked. However, “they do not suggest a protect effect on the disease and support previous findings that aspirin may mask accurate measurement of PSA,” which supports doctors asking patients to stop taking aspirin for a period prior to PSA testing.

Also this week someone posted an interesting study that seemed to indicate that the antigen of PSA is what make cells susceptible to metastasis. Whoever posted that chime in please!

I mentioned Dr. Klotz's hormone resistant patient who stabilized his PSA by dosing himself 3X daily with hot sauce! Imagine that! But when the patient stopped the hot sauce his PSA began rising at the same rate again.

When it is time for a PSA test should we stop taking these type of supplements to get a "real" reading? That is sort of like a doctor that ex-rayed his patient 23X in 7 months to monitor the progress the patient was having with his back injury. What do think happened to the patient? Maybe some cancer 20 months after the last ex-ray?

PSA is an indicator. My opinion is that imaging is becoming so refined it should be of the most importance.

Currumpaw

[dadzone43 in reply to Currumpaw]

wasn't there a study posted in the past two weeks with contrary findings about aspirin?

[pjoshea13]

I have a number of old posts on aspirin:

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-Patrick

[dadzone43]

wasn't there a study posted in the past two weeks with contrary findings about aspirin?

[Currumpaw in reply to dadzone43]

Hey dadzone43!

There are so many studies supporting aspirin I'll wait. Ask yourself this, does taking aspirin harm me?

Remember the 2013 infamous, fish oil causes prostate cancer study? The Eskimos were known to eat as much of 10 lbs. of whale blubber to fuel their bodies in the sub zero temperatures. If fish oil caused prostate cancer even the Eskimo women would have gotten it!

I go slow on ground breaking studies. The FDA didn't label cans of tuna, sardines, herring or other foods with a guideline for the safe amount to be consumed did they?

Currumpaw

[dadzone43 in reply to Currumpaw]

I do remember that. And I am not harmed by low-dose aspirin. But large population studies do show more risk from GI bleeding than cardiac protection.

[Currumpaw in reply to dadzone43]

I wouldn't worry too much as it hasn't harmed you. I also take K2. I'm doing what I can to stay here without becoming an income source for health care of some sort or another. When the music stops for me I'll know.

[j-o-h-n]

I've said this before but it bears repeating. My ex-wife can give an aspirin a headache.

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 05/03/2019 6:55 PM DST