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Good morning to all,

I have bought beta-glucan supplements that have 10mg of zinc and 55ug of selenium per dose, but now I have read that zinc increases aggressive prostate cancer. Do you know what is true about this? Is zinc harmful in these doses for someone with our situations?

Thank you all!

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If you already have adequate levels of selenium, there is a safety concern in supplementing selenium too.

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pjoshea13

Rilu,

In general, one must be wary of creating a mineral imbalance when taking high doses of any single mineral.

From the 2003 Giovannucci paper [1]:

"Supplemental zinc intake at doses of up to 100 mg/day was not associated with prostate cancer risk. However, compared with nonusers, men who consumed more than 100 mg/day of supplemental zinc had a relative risk of advanced prostate cancer of 2.29 ..."

In 2011, Giovannucci was part of a study of Swedish data [2]:

"High dietary zinc intake was associated with a reduced risk of prostate cancer-specific mortality".

The healthy prostate has an enormous appetite for zinc, as it does for citrate. The zinc protects the citrate from oxidation. Citrate is a significant component of the ejaculate.

PCa cells down regulate the uptake of zinc. So it's natural to ask if zinc is relevant after diagnosis. A 2008 paper [3] convinced me that it might be worth supplementing with zinc citrate. I use 50 mg daily. See also [4].

One reason to use some zinc is that it protects against cadmium. An irony, though, is that zinc & cadmium are often found together & that some supplements have high levels of cadmium. Zinc is cheap enough that one can afford to go with a reliable brand.

-Patrick

[1] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/128...

[2] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/212...

[3] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/183...

[4] ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/233...

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Rilu in reply topjoshea13

Thanks! 🙂

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900312611 in reply topjoshea13

Question:

So if I'm understanding these 4 PudMed papers, once you have PCa and have been treated for it (radiation, etc.) it's safe, and actually beneficial to take a zinc supplement, for example 30Mg daily?

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pjoshea13 in reply to900312611

I believe so, but look for zinc citrate.

-Patrick

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Magnus1964

Take vitamin E with selenium.

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I just read about a study that says that these two can fuel prostate cancer. I just ditched my multi-vitamin because it contains selenium. Can't find a multi that doesn't have selenium, so no more multi-vitamins for me.

cancer.gov/types/prostate/r...

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I never know what to trust any more. I took selenium and Vitamin E for year with no ill affects. I read a study back in the 90's that said they were looking for a different result and found the two had a beneficial affect on prostate cancer.

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I hear you. It's hard to know what works for prostate cancer. Do things claimed to prevent it do anything once you have it? I take a bunch of supplements for atrial fibrillation. I can tell when those are helping -- no a-fib episodes.

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Beta glucan should be by itself. I would send it back.

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