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[terri-52]

I woke up on Tuesday and I’d had a nose bleed in the night. Yesterday morning I had a slight bruise just under my eye. This morning it’s getting more like a black eye. It’s on the same side as the nose bleed. Could this be connected

Regards Terri

[bantam12]

You should call your GP if you are concerned as nobody here can diagnose the problem, good luck hope it's nothing worrying.

[terri-52 in reply to bantam12]

Thanks I’ve never posted on here before

[wobblybee Administrator Pioneer]

🤔 It would be best to see a doctor, but I did find this.

Allergic shiners, also called allergic facies or periorbital venous congestion, are a symptom of allergies. They appear as dark circles under the eyes and resemble bruises or “black eyes.”

Allergic shiners are caused by the pooling of blood under the eyes, due to the swelling of the tissue in the nasal cavities.

Allergic shiners are not usually considered a serious problem, although they can be unsightly. They can be treated and prevented by taking allergy medications and avoiding allergy triggers.

This article describes the symptoms and causes of allergic shiners and outlines the treatments available.

Differences to black eyes

Black eye, or red skin under eye caused by pooling blood.

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An allergic shiner may resemble a black eye, with the skin under the eye usually purple or blue in color.

Although they may look similar, allergic shiners and black eyes are quite different.

In the case of allergic shiners, the blood has difficulty draining from the facial veins due to swelling in that area of the face and head.

Conversely, black eyes are due to trauma, and they involve bleeding under the skin caused by damaged capillaries or veins.

Allergic shiners are also usually accompanied by other symptoms of nasal allergies.

Other causes of dark circles under the eyes include:

lack of sleep

dehydration

too much salt in the diet

iron deficiency

getting older and the skin thinning

eczema

Some people may also inherit genes from their parents that cause the skin under their eyes to appear darker.

Symptoms

Symptoms of allergic shiners include a blue or purple tint, resembling bruising, and what looks like dark shadows under the eyes.

Most people with allergic shiners will also have other allergy symptoms, such as:

itchy throat

sneezing

cough

runny nose

congestion of sinuses and nose

itchy, watery, or red eyes

tiredness

Many people mistake the symptoms of allergies for the onset of a cold, flu, or sinus infection. However, allergy symptoms tend to persist for more than the 1 or 2 weeks these other conditions would normally linger. Colds and infections also tend to cause body aches and a fever, whereas allergy symptoms do not.

Depending on the time of the year and exposure to the allergen, the symptoms of an allergy may come and go or vary in severity.

Causes and risk factors

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Hay fever, an allergy to plant pollen, may cause allergic shiners.

Allergic shiners are caused by congestion in the nasal passages and sinuses. This congestion restricts blood drainage from these areas, causing small veins below the eyes to get wider and pool with blood.

The swelling and excess blood is visible through the thin skin below the eyes and appears as dark circles.

Allergic rhinitis, also known as nasal allergy, is one of the most common causes of nasal congestion.

Allergic reactions occur when the body’s immune system responds to a foreign body, such as pollen or pet dander. The immune system mistakenly treats these substances, which are known as allergens, as if they were harmful.

Common allergens, all of which can cause allergic shiners, include:

dust mites

pet dander

mold and fungus

pollen

cockroach feces

There are also many types of allergies to food, such as to dairy, eggs, nuts, or wheat.

Furthermore, some environmental irritants can make nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms worse, such as:

air pollution

perfumes and other fragrances

tobacco smoke

People with allergic conjunctivitis, which causes allergy symptoms that affect the eyes, are more likely to experience allergic shiners than others. Symptoms of allergic conjunctivitis include swelling, watering, itching, and redness of the eyes.

Another risk factor for the development of allergic shiners is the time of year. People with seasonal allergies will probably notice that their symptoms are only present at a particular time of year, which may help them to pinpoint the allergen responsible.

If allergy symptoms are worse in early spring, it suggests an allergy to tree pollen. Symptoms that appear in late spring and summer indicate a grass pollen allergy, while allergies during fall may be caused by a reaction to ragweed.

Indoor allergies, on the other hand, can occur year-round but may be worse in winter when there is less airflow through a home. Common indoor allergens include pet dander, mold, and dust mites.

Allergic shiners can sometimes be caused by nasal congestion due to a sinus infection, cold, or flu, but this is less common than allergy causes.

When to see a doctor

If allergic shiners persist, whether accompanied by other symptoms or not, it is necessary to see a doctor to get a proper diagnosis.

Doctors may use the following methods when they diagnose allergies:

a medical examination

medical history and evaluation of symptoms

blood tests

skin prick tests to test for specific allergens

It is also important to see a doctor for allergic shiners if:

they occur along with another condition, such as asthma or sleep apnea

symptoms affect daily activities and quality of life

symptoms include a high fever

pain is experienced in the sinus area

substances coming out of the nose are green

symptoms do not improve with over-the-counter allergy medications

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[terri-52 in reply to wobblybee]

Thankyou x

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I would go see a dr. The only thing I can think of you be anemic.