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Other T causes???

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Do you ever wonder if microwave ovens and mobile telephone masts and mobile phones have anything to do with people getting tinnitus? Or / and could it perhaps be due to the preservatives and artificial additives that they add to food too?

Do you ever wonder if you could go to a retreat or a desert island for a few weeks and could only live off natural homegrown foods - as well as be away from microwaves - would it die down??

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Jimbob7 profile image
Jimbob7

I have to say - probably not.

Sorry.

But I do understand the desire - to find oneself in a place where the T cannot exist.

I imagine myself there on a regular basis. Somewhere, out there - there is a place where I can be in silence.

Day to day - around here - I find solice in the simple things - a walk in to the hills with a flask of tea. Meditation and listening to the external sounds of the World. Letting those flood in and allowing them to disperse and corrupt the T sounds within.

On a day to day basis I also seek out that place where the T cannot happen but . . .

in the mean time I try my utmost, knowing I am not alone in this World - to keep the faith in my own resilience and strength and to draw courage and determination from others I find such as here.

Love and peace,

Jimbob

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Wavydive5 in reply toJimbob7

Yes, nature restores my sanity and seems to be one of the best ways of reducing the high pitched T sounds I hear 24/7. The worry is though that there are fewer and fewer "white spots" (frequency free) areas like some European countries have. Still finding the "still/white" spots helps give me something to focus on!

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Lancslass66 in reply toJimbob7

I do find too much sugar or caffeine send my tinnitus mental so I have to be careful. And stress or anxiety.

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Yoga62

Yes, I definitely agree with you, I know for a fact that if I am talking on my mobile for longer than 20 mins then my T goes wild so now I use the loud speaker, I remember back in the 80’s there was a warning about mobile phones being harmful to health but think they are better now.

I went for a walk with my son last week which meant going past a sub station with lines of masts, it had been raining so they were making this fizzing sound, I couldn’t go any further as my T was at a very uncomfortable level, it was quite frightening really, when I told my husband he said I doubt very much it would affect you!(bit annoyed at that remark)

Certain foods make my T worse, citrus fruits being one of one, but there are many more like spicy foods, so getting back to your question, I absolutely do wonder if all these things affect my Tinnitus and it’s a very good question.

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Wavydive5 in reply toYoga62

Ah, you know that the warnings (disclaimers) are in settings on phones. They say to always keep on loud speaker. A lot of the warnings about phones have probably been buried as I researched it a few years ago and there are plenty of studies (if you know where to look!)

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Yoga62 in reply toWavydive5

Thanks for that info, I didn’t know about the disclaimer on mobile phones, but it makes sense, I think I will always use loud speaker now unless my call is confidential then I will keep the conversation short.

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Wavydive5

Hi Maco811, I hear so many other people say that at the moment! I get my tinnitus and searing headaches when I am anywhere near a wi-fi router and lesser so near to mobile phones, but worse near a DEC cordless phone! There are sites that I belong to where people have MCAS, (chemical sensitivity and electro sensitivity) and they talk about tinnitus. There must be links but it's probably not in the interest of those industries to research further. It's pretty hard to escape frequencies today, it's probably easier to avoid chemicals and to control what foods you eat.

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Lancslass66 in reply toWavydive5

Ah I have chemical sensitivities I can't use home cleaners at all as I get banging headaches etc never thought of that

Philip6 profile image
Philip6

There are people that say 5G masts and smart meters can cause problems for people. But these people tend to wear tinfoil hats and in my experience tend to be nutters.

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Wavydive5 in reply toPhilip6

If only it was 5G and smart meters that were the problem Philip, the problem is that ALL frequencies can be a problem for those with electro sensitivity and for some with tinnitus. Unfortunately there have been wild accusations about 5G (likely due to telecoms shenanigans) with a lot of misinformation spread around social media. It benefits the industry. There are actually nearly 30k studies done on 2-4G, smart meters and wi-fi frequencies and of those, over 70% show harm to biological health and the remaining percentage show either neutral or positive findings (ie no harm). Funnily enough, all the positive findings are in studies created by industry itself.

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Gregorianne

Research into the history of tinnitus by De Ridder & De Ridder found “the first written record of tinnitus as a medical condition comes from Mesopotamia in the seventh century BC.” Hippocrates in the fifth century BC considered tinnitus to be based in the brain.

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MarionP in reply toGregorianne

That's fascinating, Hippocrates was one wild dude.. You have to wonder if that's also when the progress stopped. Cuz it doesn't seem much different since.

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Ocala626

I absolutely do believe that. I'm very sensitive to EMF frequencies. Sadly, they aren't that easy to escape from. I do make sure I hold my mobile phone away from my body and on speaker whenever possible. Sometimes for privacy reasons, I can't do that. I would never wear ear buds for this same reason and I don't go near microwave ovens.

Ray200 profile image
Ray200

I have and have dismissed it as fanciful. From the same school of thought that had some early Victorians fearful of trains as travelling at 30mph would surely suck the air out of their lungs.

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TinnitusUKPatPartner

Folks, I'm keen that people feel able to express their beliefs and difficulties with tinnitus and its causes on this forum.

What I'm less open to is this thread developing into an "electro magnetic sensitivity/5G/harmful wi-fi" free for all. This contravenes Health Unlocked guidance on publishing misinformation and personal opinion presented as fact.

Rather than there being little research, bodies like the World Health Organisation have taken issues like Electro Magnetic exposure levels seriously and done the work to try and identify how it might manifest and affect people - who.int/health-topics/elect...

The research is being carried out, and not by organisations with a vested interest in coming down on the side of telecommunications companies - that it isn't identifying strong evidence of an issue doesn't negate the difficulties people are having but suggests more that their anxieties and uncertainties have more complex origins than faster download speeds on mobile devices.

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Ray200 in reply toTinnitusUKPat

I see where you are coming from Pat, but be assured the culprits are tiny in number and 'don't get out very much' to use that telling euphemism. That said, the few are a noisy lot on line for their numbers!

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MAC0811 in reply toRay200

I’m not saying I am right that microwaves could affect Tinnitus although I believe that it hasn’t been made factually conclusive that they don’t cause any harm either, I think you’d be naive to not keep this ‘card on the table’ too as we’ve seen things covered up by the establishment plenty of times before.

This Tinnitus forum is a place for people to talk freely and air their concerns, thoughts, worries, advice, opinions and reasoning etc? You don’t have to agree with everything you read and you have a right to your opinion, but there is no place for anybody to get personal / bullying. We don’t want this forum turning into some toxic group that you are likely to find on somewhere like Facebook. You have to also remember that their are a lot of people who come on here and are in shear distress and need “an arm round” etc and some are close to wanting to end it, so the last thing they want to do is to have to start fielding catty / bullying / sly remarks on top of everything else that they’re having to deal with.

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Ray200 in reply toMAC0811

I didn't mean to come over with a catty / bullying / sly slant, but merely as dismissive. I reserve the right to be dismissive. Being positive / understanding with everything isn't going to help anybody, is it?

I do keep an open mind. But tempered by weight of evidence / theoretical. Your original post though, mere speculation. I replied accordingly. Do you have any anecdotal? I'll consider that.

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Wavydive5 in reply toTinnitusUKPat

So this isn't the place to explore what might be causing and or help tinnitus?!

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TinnitusUKPatPartner in reply toWavydive5

Not sure where that idea stems from. There are plenty of threads in the forum which explore causes of tinnitus and remedies.

Largely theoretical and unproven issues like electro-magnetic sensitivity and wi-fi exposure would seem to be at odds with the guidance in place by Health Unlocked for communities and which members agree to when they sign up for accounts.

At the risk of seeming like a broken record, if forum members object to this, then Health Unlocked as platform owner are the organisation to approach - Tinnitus UK doesn't have much input into what is classified misinformation or topics which are inappropriate for discussion.

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