Help;got some new heart symptoms after i started take half adrenal glandular tablet (few days ago).

[cloud1]

I have started on just half tablet a few days ago;i am pregnant but have read on internet if other women who took safely).now,padt couple days i been have a 'new' heart symptom(i've had palpitations before at times)which is that when i breath in i get bit like a stitch in the heart;something not right heart.has anyone experienced heart symptoms after starting on adrenal glandulars?

[cloud1]

Forgot to say that my blood pressure seems to be bit higher than usual at times.(i always hav low blood press usually).

[PinkNinja]

You need to see your doctor as soon as possible to be on the safe side. It may be nothing but, as you are pregnant and your blood pressure is rising, It would be a good idea to get this checked out asap. It could be the adrenal tablets, but it could be unrelated. It may be something to do with being pregnant. Whatever it is, given that you are pregnant, I would want to get checked out. How many weeks are you? This could be important for anyone who knows more about this in order to help you

Hope you feel better soon!

Carolyn x

[nobodysdriving]

Dear Cloud,

regardless of how many weeks you are please go and get checked out NOW (meaning today) at your nearest hospital. If you are under 18 weeks go to A&E, if you are over 18 weeks go to the Maternity Unit (ie labour ward or antenatal day unit or maternal and fetal assessment unit).

The 'stitch' you get when you breathe in and the palpitations, this is EXTREMELY important it is checked NOW, it may be nothing but it is also a symptom of blood clot in the lungs (Pulmonary Oedema, PE), it can be a 'silent killer' in pregnancy, but it is so easily treated.

In pregnancy your blood is 'thicker' (fibrinogen is higher) and blood flow is 'slower/slack' due to physiological changes in the blood vessels (blood vessels get more relaxed and 'floppy' due to pregnancy hormones), the growing uterus puts pressure in the abdomen which slows down blood return from the lower part of the body, all of these things put together give you a high risk of blood clots.

We see it often enough (blood clots) in pregnant women, it is more common then you think, but like I said: VERY EASILY treated, and we can find it fairly easily.

REMEMBER TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE STITCH PAIN AS YOU BREATHE IN!!

Hope you go this morning, it is serious, it needs to be ruled out xxxxx

then you can go back home and have a nice hot drink and relax if it is ruled out

hugs

[cloud1 in reply to nobodysdriving]

How annoying;just wrote long reply to u but it didnt post.(tired).I will shorten.Thanks v much for ur advice;u seem to know alot about this;can i ask whether u r a midwife or such?Today i didnt hav the symptoms so am a little less worried at mo.But i definately will get it checked as soon as poss(tomm i go to London for my baby heart scan;long-story.She has severe hydrops/Turners.i am 5 mths preg.)i have started taking hawthorn herb for my heart ,other day.I dp have v poor blood circulation, anyway,and am v worried about how my heart etc will cope with any eventuality(most likely misscarraige)but abortion not 'ruled -out' completely either;due to the baby being so v poorly and secondly my own health concerns.This is one of the most difficult times of my life;and i donnot get any med support for my health problems(its like hitting ur head against brick wall;to get any help with thyroid,heart or otherwise.)Near beggining preg i had severe palps and all my gp offered was a '5 min' ecg monitor test.useless. and i have no words to say how it feels to be 'med neglected'in essence;that i am just left to 'fend for myself' with such ppoor health and now preg.i hav however;after years of this;resigned myself to the fact that i will not be able to get any usefull support from nhs.Sorry to go on.Thanks again.x

[nobodysdriving in reply to cloud1]

Hi Cloud, am really happy that you have replied, was thinking of you all day yesterday

Not sure if you are going to read this before you set off to London,but if you do then yes, go to the Assessment unit in the hospital you will visit today and be checked about this 'stitch' pain you've been getting.

I don't know anything about hawthorn herb and not much about glandulars, sorry I cannot advise you on these.

Today when you get checked out, tell them about the palpitations also and if they do blood tests ask them to check:

ferritin/iron/vitamin B12, tell them you know that if you are low in these things you can get palpitations (if they hear you saying this they may be more likely to do the tests for you).

thank you for coming back and letting us know you are still ok

[Jackie]

Hi I agree so much with all said. I have major heart problems and end stage heart disease. For years I have not even been able to have a local injection of cortisone as it is so dangerous.I hope that you are being given it by an endo and not a private doctor.

Very best wishes,

Jackie

[nobodysdriving in reply to Jackie]

sorry Jackie but why do you hope she's been given something by an endo and not a private doctor?

I know you may not mean it this way but this phrase certainly comes across (at least to me, the reader) that you think private doctors do not have any credibility. I know some people have had negative experiences with private doctors, but to be honest many also have had negative experiences with endos, be it NHS or otherwise.

In my case I would far more trust my private doctor than my endocrinologist (though my endo is very very good indeed), I know you respect your endo highly, but we cannot ever kill all birds with one stone (matter of speech)

[Jackie in reply to nobodysdriving]

Hi No it is not that at all, but private doctors ( as opposed to endo`s ) in my experience only look at thyroid issues and not related issue or the whole body. I did see 2 private doctors ,long ago now, for a long time. It was only when my cardio said that I must see an endo, that I did. She discovered no end of thyroid related problems that had never been tested, or I had never been informed about..There was no info available in those days. That is why for something more complex an endo, in my opinion is best.Actually the first private doctor I saw did no tests and treated me incorrectly. There was no info available in those days. The second one, I saw several years and was lovely, I would recommend him to anyone as a thyroid doctor.I was very grateful to him but he only did thyroid tests when pushed. In the end his treatment made me very ill, still I appreciate his help and would not even mention his name.I do think some private doctors are good including the one I saw but for a complex conditions a really good endo is invaluable.My endo has even pin pointed totally unrelated conditions.Of course, like with anything some terrible ones!

I hope this is clear and I have not upset you. It is perfectly possible that the said doctors have improved about testing now but the fact remains that they do not have the complicated, long training an endo was., that was why I had to change to an endo.

Best wishes,

Jackie

[Hidden in reply to Jackie]

Hi Jackie

The point is, as you have now explained, that was your experience with the docs that you saw. Perhaps you could just make sure to make that a bit clearer when you post so as to not worry people.Thanks!

Louise

x

[Jackie in reply to Hidden]

Hi Louise,

I stand reprimanded!

Thanks,

Jackie

[cloud1 in reply to Jackie]

I am actually self-med as cannot afford private and my Nhs GP wont help me cos tsh /T4 is 'normal'(high antibodies though).It worries me to self-med but equally worrying not to do anything about it;with my poor health.Wad think starting rae thyroid concentate glandulars soon after but now have read something about glandulars aggravating Hashimotos(attack) so am bit 'at a loss' ,again,about whats best to do.

[Jackie in reply to cloud1]

Hi Cloud,

I have Hashimoto`s and a good endo. I understand your problem as When I started treatment, years ago, I just had normal TSH, not too bad T4 but extremely low Free T3.As I said I cannot take any type of cortisone. I did have low Adrenals glands, and they are still on the low side but they have improved a lot with the correct thyroid meds. You can buy various things, expensive but they all contain cortisone, or they do not work.I started my treatment on armour, no T3 then That was accepted as FT3 low., and my thyroid was dreadful. However when T3 was available, expensive, I had it on a NHS script. I need all that T3 to make me OK However we always keep my T3 just in range..Could you offer to pay for a Free T3 test at the GP`s, some will for about £10.? My TSH is unmeasurable as so low with treatment and I have an enlarged thyroid + nodules.If you can show your FT3 is very low you may get treatment from GP or ask to see a good endo. alternatively you could take armour as much cheaper than T3 but you would have to buy that, I have mine on a private script but some people do buy it abroad. However I would suggest if you DIY, the 3 basic tests, TSH T4 and Free T3 are essential while having treatment. If the GP will not test, to prove your point are you able to pay for a test through TUK thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/te ? I have the intermediate test ( the 3) from Blue Horizon fr £61 if I quote TUK10 , very easy all results to you on We mail. Then you may be can get the correct treatment or see a nHS endo but make sure it is your choice of endo`s not the GP`s, Louise has a list [e-mail] I hope that is some help to you.Also if taking T3 it is normally started on 20mcgsplit 12 hours apart for at least a month, it takes that long to work. Some GP`s will give you a months trials if pushed! Otherwise may be you could use armour as it contains T4 and free T3, so long as your T4 is not too high ie top of range, it should be about 2 thirds, roughly on treatment. That is much cheaper than having T3, personally I think it is better too but others have different views.

Best wishes,

Jackie