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T3 helped anyone get pregnant?

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I conceived normally in 2019 and had my first child. I developed Hashis after that pregnancy and it was picked up on as I developed secondary infertility. Got pregnant again eventually with TSI treatment. Now I would like to try for a third but the TSI is not working. No money for IVF. I am still struggling with cognitive symptoms on T4 only and have been told not to try combination T4/T3 until I’m done having kids. I can put up with this but since the fertility treatment isn’t working and I feel that my body is not working well on T4 only I can’t help but wonder why on earth wouldn’t I try to actually optimise my thyroid function using combination therapy and would it perhaps help me to conceive? If my brain is not functioning well how do I know my reproductive system is? I get delayed (late) ovulation often. There’s not much else I can try and I’ve been given no reason for the infertility …. I have 2 copies of DIO2 polymorphism.

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Dec:

Iron: 11.5 (Ref 9-30)

TSAT: 15% (Ref 10-50)

B12: 359 (Ref 139-651)

Folic Acid: 17.1 (Ref 7-46.4)

Very low vitamin levels need improved to GOOD levels as first steps

Exactly what vitamin supplements are you taking

Aiming for minimum

Ferritin over 70

Serum B12 over 500

Folate at top of range

Vitamin D no result

Aim for at least over 80nmol

Only add one supplement at a time then wait 2 weeks to assess before adding another

Retest thyroid and vitamin levels 2 months after adding last supplement

Meanwhile get

FULL iron panel test for anaemia via Monitor my health or Medichecks

And test TSH, Ft4 and FT3 together

ALWAYS test early morning and last dose Levothyroxine 24 hours before test

do you always get same brand Levothyroxine at each prescription

Are you on gluten free/dairy free diet

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HayDay25 in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you but I didn’t post in relation to those results which are months old. I have since got an iron transfusion, iron and TSAT have come way up, Ferritin is rising slowly, I am supplementing and doing all I can to raise it but it’s hard to get it up, was over 30 on my last check. I take all possible supplements and my vitamin levels are optimal. Thyroid levels are mid range, TSH stays around 1. I am on 100 Eltroxin.

My question was specifically on T3 and fertility.

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HayDay25 in reply toHayDay25

Supplements currently taking:

Prescribed by fertility doc:

Folic acid

Vitamin D

CoQ10

I also take:

Proceive pre conception multi

B12

Magnesium

Iron + vitamin C

Omega fish oil

Alpha lipoic acid

NAC

Also on:

Aspirin

Steroids

Stims + progesterone etc TSI meds

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toHayDay25

Steroids frequently lower TSH and/or cortisol

Are you testing cortisol levels

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HayDay25 in reply toSlowDragon

I am only on the steroids for two weeks post ovulation when I’m undergoing treatment so overall it’s not a factor relating to my question. Thanks

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Pregnancy

Before even considering TTC levels need to be stable

verywellhealth.com/infertil...

Pregnancy guidelines

thyroiduk.org/having-a-baby/

NICE guidelines that if hypothyroid or subclinical you should see endocrinologist BEFORE TTC

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/hypo...

See pages 7&8

btf-thyroid.org/Handlers/Do...

Also here - dose increase in levothyroxine as soon as pregnancy test confirms conception

cuh.nhs.uk/patient-informat...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

Low ferritin, low thyroid levels and miscarriage

preventmiscarriage.com/iron...

Low iron and hypothyroid

endocrineweb.com/news/thyro...

Folate and B12 and Neural tube defects and autism

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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HayDay25 in reply toSlowDragon

I do appreciate your reply but I’ve come across all of the above before and this does not relate to my question. I am doing everything I can, gluten free, almost dairy free, no egg whites, low processed food, take my Eltroxin correctly and check my levels correctly, take many many vitamins, antioxidants etc. I don’t know what else more I can do hence why I am now asking about T3.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toHayDay25

It’s very difficult, but not impossible to find an endocrinologist prepared to allow T3 during pregnancy

posts that mention T3 and pregnancy

healthunlocked.com/search/p...

What’s your Ft4 and Ft3 results on current dose Levo

Thyroid levels are mid range,

You will very likely need Ft4 higher than mid range if on only Levo …typically Ft4 70-80% through range

If you can go private I know of an endocrinologist based in Bristol (but all consults are done online) who I know prescribes and supports the use of T3 in pregnancy.

I see her and she's fab.

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HayDay25 in reply toWitchingHour2point0

I’m in Ireland. Do they only take UK patients? Could you send me on name?

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WitchingHour2point0 in reply toHayDay25

Will do.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toHayDay25

Please add on your profile that you are in Ireland

And age and gender helpful too

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HayDay25 in reply toSlowDragon

Will do and I’ve posted bloods below.

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FancyPants54

I know nothing about getting and staying pregnant with or without thyroid issues. But if you have the Dio2 polymorphism x 2, you are a poor converter of T4 to T3. So you very likely do need T3. Can you share your last FT4 and FT3 results?

I have the polymorphism from one parent. Trouble is, my GP hadn't got a clue what I was showing him when I took my test results to show him. I had to go to see a private endo to get T3 and I have to pay for it. You probably won't conceive with low FT3 and if you did, the chances of miscarriage are high. Can you ask to see a specialist in pregnancy at the hospital? They should have more idea than your GP.

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HayDay25 in reply toFancyPants54

Thanks, I’ve posted bloods below. I’m learning here but I thought my bloods seemed fine. From my own learning about DIO2 (mainly from Dr Antonio Bianco) the issue won’t show up in bloods but the localised tissue hypothyroidism can still be there, particularly in the brain. I keep getting told my bloods are perfect but then why do I still have symptoms and infertility?!

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HayDay25

BLOOD RESULTS:

Results from Jan 25:

TSH : 1 (0.27 - 4.2)

FT4 : 19 (12 - 22)

FT3 : 4.9 (3.1 - 6.8)

Results from Nov 24:

TSH : 1.7 (0.27 - 4.2)

FT4 : 16.3 (12 - 22)

FT3 : 4.6 (3.1 - 6.8)

These were done morning bloods 24hrs since last dose of Eltroxin.

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Blue_Lagoon in reply toHayDay25

I think you need to increase your fT3 level. This may mean lowering your fT4 a little too as your TSH looks good. As you have the DIO2 polymorphism I don’t think you are converting adequately. Perhaps a little T3 would help.x

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FancyPants54 in reply toHayDay25

Your November results showed:

FT4 43% through range

FT3 40.54% through range

Your January results showed:

FT4 70% through range

FT3 48.65% through range

November showed a decent level of T4 to T3 conversion. January slipped.

The results aren't as bad as I though they might be, but still if optimal for you needs FT3 in the 50-60% range, you need a dose increase of some kind, and T3 is probably the best route given the conversion issues you likely have.

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