super low tsh on armour 4 normal t3 7 again

[DeedellaD]

hello all!

I am 41. I’ve been taking thyroid medicine unfortunately since around 19 I went a few years without it and was OK. I can’t quite keep up but took tirosint for long time however I gained a bunch of it with my gained were supposed to take your T3 doesn’t go to the baby and give me more T4.

Not too long ago my numbers tanked so my doctor said OK to switch to armor. I think that was sometime last fall. I dropped weights gas and felt too energetic and t3 was like an 8.8 when tested after few months

well, of course T3 sinks your TSH but I think mine is like .0006 or .006 is everybody like this that takes it but my T4 is only 1.4. I used to only take 75 or 100 of Tirosint. I might’ve not been absorbing it. Maybe I was drinking coffee too soon in the morning when it all tanked.

I get exhausted from a lifetime of doctors with chronic Lyme disease and autoimmune and thyroid to keep explaining but right now I went from three grains to 150. Because my TSH was so low, but my young primary, who is very open to listening, doesn’t get T3 lowers or TSH is still low.

my sleep schedule is terrible. I’m a single mother and I’m a night owl. I homeschool and it’s my only real piece and it’s always been my favorite time of night so of course I can’t wake up easily.

but when I first switched to armor, after a few months, 30 pounds melted off me, I feel like my blood test was gonna come back with everything higher but it’s not a whole lot different.

my main question is is though super low TSH not dangerous because of the T3. I’m thinking I might be better off taking well. I don’t really know if I lower it. My T4 will be too low, but my T3 is high which means I’m converting my TSH is super low.

can you guys keep your T3 higher than the normal range? I’m pretty exhausted of this juggling act.

Oh and he did not test my antibodies this time (my doc retired and trained him she’s a Lyme auto immune all specialist ) but they did go back to normal when “ over medicated “. My glucose is always borderline high around 100 or so but they said since my A1c is OK it’s not a big deal. I’m thinking it’s probably pcos or whatever.

I eat pretty healthy, but I’m not as active as I should be. I’m always burning up in my chest, but I don’t think that’s for my thyroid in the mornings are the worst but I have sjogrens/ bad spine /lyme.

[pennyannie]

Hello DeedellaD :

Once on any form of thyroid hormone replacement the TSH is the least important reading :

Once Thyroid antibodies have been found in your blood and are a positive there is no point in keep checking for them - there is no cure for a thyroid AI disease - and the antibodies may well fluctuate throughout your life.

On Armour - or any NDT - we track on the T3 reading - and the T4 can be low in the range - but if you feel well on your dose of NDT - a low T4 does not matter.

On NDT you dose to the relief of symptoms by 1/4 grain increments up or down -

If you felt well with your T3 at 7 so be it - if not - drop down 1/4 grain of Armour and see if a slightly lower dose of NDT suits you better.

If on synthetic T3 and T4 you probably need your T4 up at around 80% through its range with the T3 tracking just behind at around 70% through its range -

If diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroid disease you will experience erratic own thyroid hormone production as this AI disease progresses and totally disables your thyroid :

All things thyroid AI disease - thyroidpharmacist.com

[DeedellaD in reply to pennyannie]

Thank you. I knew TSH was the least looked at even though the doctors don’t unfortunately even if they kinda understand it they still don’t but is .006 or .0006. I can’t remember how low it was this time is that definitely not posing a danger if RTSH is extremely crazy low. My TSH was never low like that. It was kept in the 1 or 1.5 to 2 range prior to armor and the antibodies no longer show up, but I guess that doesn’t mean I’m not Hashimoto. Also oddly I use Lugol solution which I know people telling you not to or iodine if you have a thyroid problem they tell you not to, but I put a couple drops or so on my wrist maybe two times and I took a few few drops. Who knows how many a couple times I was stuck in the 30 range very low 30s of iodine and my doctor told me iodine doesn’t matter once you’re thyroid doesn’t make it or whatever we work right rather, and taking it probably wouldn’t matter or even change it yet now it’s like 330 something so I’m gonna get it rechecked and I wonder why that could be if you’re supposed to also secrete it in your urine.

I don’t feel that good and my weight loss stopped and I gained a little. I feel like I felt better on three grains but now I’m only on 2+ a 30. For 150 total. And he’s telling me to lower it because my T3 is seven so I don’t know I need somebody better or just do it myself 23 years I’m shot from it and all else Lyme and sjogrens.

Thank you. Sorry I’m talk to texting. There’s probably wild typos. I’m about to get my daughter to sleep. Thank again!!

[pennyannie in reply to DeedellaD]

So on 3 grains you felt improved but your dose has been reduced by 1/2 grain because of your blood test results -

What exactly were your T3 and T4 readings and the ranges ?

The antibodies will wax and wane throughout your life - there is no need to keep checking for them, and once diagnosed with an AI disease - it's more about managing ones life to try and minimise the symptoms tolerated.

When with an under active thyroid and taking thyroid hormone replacement taking iodine drops is not recommended.

[radd]

DeedellaD

I can’t take enough Armour without my FT3 going too high so I reduced Armour dose and added back in a little bit of T4 Levo.

TSH will be low for most of us medicating T3 containing meds because the pituitary is more sensitive to T3, so reduces TSH output.

I read your bio - I too suffer mould sensitivities but symptoms have really improved after a year spent detoxing. Where we live now is warm and bright but I can still feel it suppressing me in other buildings, even if I can’t see it.

I’m also sensitive to the amount of humidity in the air which again is related to mould, and I have found using a dehumidifier really helps remove any lurking heaviness in the air (that I can feel but nobody else can 🤷‍♀️). I’m in England and know I’d thrive so much better in a year round warm and sunny climate.