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Estimated Exposure to 6 Potentially Hepatotoxic Botanicals in US Adults

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I want everyone to have the choice of trying anything they like - so long as they are fully informed and all information is readily accessible.

Trouble is, a lot of information is hard to access for many reasons including language, paywalls, time, and having the required time and skills to get to the information and understand it. (There is an awful lot that, despite being in English, would not be intelligible to any but a tiny fraction.)

This paper discusses the following:

● Turmeric or curcumin

● Green tea extract

● Garcinia cambogia

● Black cohosh

● Red yeast rice

● Ashwagandha

I've already got an entry in my blog for one of these:

helvella - Red Yeast Rice

A short discussion about the claims for "natural" red yeast rice as an alternative to statins.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

And a questioning blog about the numerous "thyroid support" formulations - which very frequently contain Ashwagandha and others might contain Garcinia, Green tea extract or (possibly) others in this list - or not in the list but which are just as questionable but weren't included in this paper. (Not being in the list doesn't mean they are safe. This paper is very much focussed on one single avenue of toxicity.)

helvella - Thyroid Support Products

A short discussion about the various thyroid support formulas and similar products.

Last updated 18/07/2024

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

Don't take this post as being totally against any of these substances. I don't know enough to take that position. But find out and be careful. And remember that the supplement vendors don't care about you at all. They will produce anything they believe will sell. And some will make false claims about efficacy, safety, and pretty much anything else in order to get your money.

Original Investigation

Complementary and Alternative Medicine

August 5, 2024

Estimated Exposure to 6 Potentially Hepatotoxic Botanicals in US Adults

Alisa Likhitsup, MD, MPH1; Vincent L. Chen, MD, MS1; Robert J. Fontana, MD1

Author Affiliations Article Information

JAMA Netw Open. 2024;7(8):e2425822. doi:10.1001/jamanetworkopen.2024.25822

Key Points

Question What percentage of US adults consume at least 1 of 6 potentially hepatotoxic botanical products?

Findings In this survey study analyzing nationally representative data from 9685 adults, 4.7% of US adults reported exposure to 6 potentially hepatotoxic botanicals: turmeric was most frequently reported, followed in order by green tea, ashwagandha, Garcinia cambogia, red yeast rice, and black cohosh products. Botanical product users were significantly older, more educated, and more likely to have arthritis compared with nonusers.

Meaning The results of this study suggest that clinicians should be aware of possible adverse events from consumption of these largely unregulated products.

Abstract

Importance Use of herbal and dietary supplements (HDSs) accounts for an increasing proportion of drug hepatotoxicity cases. Turmeric or curcumin, green tea extract, Garcinia cambogia, black cohosh, red yeast rice, and ashwagandha are the most frequently reported hepatoxic botanicals, but their prevalence and reasons for use in the general population are unknown.

Objective To assess the prevalence and clinical characteristics of adult consumers of 6 potentially hepatoxic botanicals.

Design, Setting, and Participants This survey study analyzed nationally representative data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES), a nationally representative, cross-sectional survey of the general US population. Prescription drug and HDS exposure data in the past 30 days were analyzed, and 2020 US Census data were used for population estimates. Data were analyzed July 1, 2023, to February 1, 2024.

Exposures Adult NHANES participants enrolled between January 2017 and March 2020.

Main Outcomes and Measures Baseline weighted characteristics of HDS users and users of 6 potentially hepatotoxic botanical products were compared with non–HDS users. Multivariable analysis was undertaken to identify factors associated with HDS use or at-risk botanical use.

Results Among 9685 adults enrolled in this NHANES cohort, the mean (SE) age was 47.5 (0.5) years, and 51.8% (95% CI, 50.2%-53.4%) were female. The overall prevalence of HDS product use was 57.6% (95% CI, 55.9%-59.4%), while the prevalence of using the 6 botanicals of interest was 4.7% (95% CI, 3.9%-5.7%). Turmeric-containing botanicals were most commonly used (n = 236), followed by products containing green tea (n = 92), ashwagandha (n = 28), Garcinia cambogia (n = 20), red yeast rice (n = 20), and black cohosh (n = 19). Consumers of these 6 botanicals were significantly older (adjusted odds ratio [AOR], 2.36 [95% CI, 1.06-5.25]; P = .04 for 40-59 years of age and AOR, 3.96 [95% CI, 1.93-8.11]; P = .001 for ≥60 years of age), had a higher educational level (AOR, 4.78 [95% CI, 2.62-8.75]; P < .001), and were more likely to have arthritis (AOR, 2.27 [95% CI, 1.62-3.29]; P < .001) compared with non–HDS users. An estimated 15 584 599 (95% CI, 13 047 571-18 648 801) US adults used at least 1 of the 6 botanical products within the past 30 days, which was similar to the estimated number of patients prescribed potentially hepatotoxic drugs, including simvastatin (14 036 024 [95% CI, 11 202 460-17 594 452]) and nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (14 793 837 [95% CI, 13 014 623-16 671 897]). The most common reason for consuming turmeric and green tea was to improve or maintain health.

Conclusions and Relevance In this survey study, an estimated 15.6 million US adults consumed at least 1 botanical product with liver liability within the past 30 days, comparable with the number of people who consumed nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and a commonly prescribed hypolipidemic drug. Given a lack of regulatory oversight on the manufacturing and testing of botanical products, clinicians should be aware of possible adverse events from consumption of these largely unregulated products.

Full paper is open access here:

jamanetwork.com/journals/ja...

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Regenallotment profile image
Regenallotment

I read in an Ayurveda book recently that herbal supplements are the leading cause of liver failure in the US! Curcurmin/turmeric was on her list. ☝️

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gabkad in reply to Regenallotment

I suppose it's a matter of 'the dose makes the poison' because otherwise the entire Indian subcontinent would be depopulated due to liver failure.

More is oftentimes not better.

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diamondial in reply to gabkad

Almost but not quite in this case. It's the extract curcumin which is the problem.

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diamondial in reply to Regenallotment

I've learnt quite a bit about turmeric from an informative and scientific-lead group on facebook. Turmeric is not the problem. The issues are caused by large doses of curcumin extract, one of the active ingredients in turmeric.

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SmallBlueThing in reply to Regenallotment

There's Tylenol (paracetamol), hepatitis and other viruses, and alcohol abuse. "The Liver Doc" in India is very critical of the alcohol content of some Ayurvedic and other preparations.

Aflatoxins could be a factor in the harvesting and storage of some herbs, and there's the risk of contamination with other plants.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to SmallBlueThing

I feel that "Ayurvedic" is used like "natural", "herbal" and lots of other terms to imply complete safety and purity.

The words lead us into thinking that these things have been used for centuries, no-one ever has a problem with them, and they cannot hurt us because they are not "big pharma" medicines.

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SmallBlueThing in reply to helvella

Sometimes people claim "natural" remedies have been used for millennia, with no evidence for consistent use nor efficacy for any particular one. A cousin's isolated cottage in Devon was inhabited by a 19th century herbalist, but newspaper reports reveal they weren't too successful with cures, even for his own son. At about the same time in my own area, the herbalist seemed to cater for those who couldn't afford the doctor. The doctor sounded good at suggesting causes of death, but he and the herbalist were probably equally ineffectual, with many dying quickly from infections after minor accidents.

As for Ayurveyda, there's the use of or contamination by heavy metals: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Traditional Chinese Medicine has always looked to me like throwing a confused surfeit of stuff at the problem and hoping something sticks, and if it truly is traditional you'd have to accept the use of parts of endangered animals.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to SmallBlueThing

There are a few fragments about historical treatment of thyroid disorders in my historical documents papers.

I think it worthy of note that there used to be all sorts of herbalists and homeopaths and numerous treatments were used for thyroid disorders. But it wasn't really until George Redmayne Murray (in 1891) used thyroid extract that we made real progress.

Of course, some previous treatments might have helped. But I don't think there are good grounds for claiming that previous treatments were widely efficacious.

These are NOT suitable for reading on a phone! Ideally, large screens. :-)

helvella - Historical Context of Thyroid Treatment in the UK

A few documents which have gathered extracts of possible interest - mostly from The Chemist and Druggist. Intended to illustrate how things have changed in over a century.

Last updated 10/09/2024.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

helvella - History of Thyroid Hormone Medicines in the UK

A general overview of how thyroid medicines have changed over many years.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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SmallBlueThing in reply to helvella

There was burnt sponge as an iodine source for goitre, but I doubt any advocates of "traditional is best" clamour after that.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to SmallBlueThing

Nor...

UNGUENTUM HYDRARGYRI IODIDI RUBRI.—Ointment of the Red Iodide of Mercury. The D. College directed this ointment to be prepared by mixing one drachm of Red Iodide of Mercury with eight drachms of ointment of white wax; it therefore contained one part of the Red Iodide in every eight parts. The Ph. Brit, orders sixteen grains to be incorporated with one ounce of simple ointment, consequently it is a much weaker preparation, containing only one part of the Red Iodide in every twenty-eight parts. It is said to be a most effective application for bronchocele [goitres], and a good application for warts.

:-)

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Buddy195Administrator

Thanks Helvella; I for one have learned lots from your blogs/ posts 👍

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Buddy195

Just to say, it is simply what I find!

Ukie profile image
Ukie

Thanks Helvella. I take Glucosamine with Chondroitin for my arthritis, and I have to say it seems to be very effective. Is there any problem with this long term?

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Ukie

I have no idea!

One issue which seems of potential importance is this:

Is it safe to take glucosamine for joint pain with glaucoma?

JUL 17, 2024

Question:

Is it safe to take glucosamine for joint pain with glaucoma?

Answer:

There are some reports of glucosamine raising intraocular pressure (IOP). I would say that the data on this is fairly weak and not confirmed. However, if you have glaucoma or risk factors for glaucoma, you may want to avoid glucosamine or have your IOP monitored regularly by your ophthalmologist.

aao.org/eye-health/ask-opht...

Most other reports are concerned with intolerance/allergy due to the seafood sources or relative;y minor side effects.

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Ukie in reply to Ukie

If anyone reading this decides to try it (Glucosamine with Chondroitin), you have to persevere. I had been taking it 6 months before I noticed any improvement. I have been taking it for a year now, and my arthritis is so much better. I just get it from the supermarket. Good luck.

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Ukie

Thank you! There is no history of Glaucoma in my family, but I will mention it whenever I get an eye test. I don’t have any allergies that I am aware of. My mother had arthritis, but I know she wasn’t able to take Chondroitin because she was on blood thinners.

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grumpyold

I took black cohosh for several years to help with menopause. Sailed through it with no ill effects. The Native Americans used it for lots of things, but as gabkad says, " the dose makes the poison ".

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