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Hi,

SeasideSusie humanbean

I was wondering if you can kindly help me with my latest iron results.

I am on 100 mcg levo.

ferritin blood - 23.5

Haemoglobin- 147

White cell count - 5.6

Platelets - 4.70

Haematrocit - 0.425

MCV - 90.4

MCH - 31.3

MCHC - 346

RDW - 11.2

Lymphocytes 2.5

Neutrophils 2.7

Can you let me know if I should supplement with an iron supplement from the chemist or should I request further bloods from the GP and can you let me know which ones? Or do I need to purchase heme iron which I think is from the USA. I am based in the U.K.

Thank you so kindly for your advice.

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SeasideSusieRemembering

Need the reference ranges please Denny39

Those tests don't show an iron panel which consists of serum iron, saturation percentage, total iron binding capacity and ferritin. It's the iron panel which shows if you have iron deficiency and will tell us if you need to supplement with iron, or whether you just have low ferritin without iron deficiency.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

Thanks for your reply.

I’m feeling breathless but not sure if that is associated or not.

The ferritin blood is 23.5 and I rang the secretary and she thinks the range is 13-300. Do you think that sounds too big of a range for ferritin?

I will need to ask the GP for the other bloods or do them privately. Thank you

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Denny39

I’m feeling breathless but not sure if that is associated or not.

Breathlessness is a symptom of both low ferritin and iron deficiency.

Symptoms of low ferritin include:

◾Weakness

◾Fatigue

◾Difficulty concentrating

◾Poor work productivity

◾Cold hands and feet

◾Poor short-term memory

◾Difficulty remembering names

◾Dizziness

◾Pounding in the ears

◾Shortness of breath

◾Brittle nails

◾Headaches

◾Restless legs

Symptoms of iron deficiency include:

◾Persistent fatigue

◾Pale skin

◾Shortness of breath

◾Headaches

◾Dizziness

◾Heart palpitations

◾Dry skin

◾Brittle hair and hair loss

◾Swelling or soreness of the tongue or mouth

◾Restless legs

◾Brittle or ridged nails

The ferritin blood is 23.5 and I rang the secretary and she thinks the range is 13-300.

Ranges vary

13-150 (usually for females)

13-300

30-400 (usually for males)

30-650 (for over 60s)

However, NICE class below 30 as iron deficiency:

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/anae...

In all people, a serum ferritin level of less than 30 micrograms/L confirms the diagnosis of iron deficiency.

This is why it's important to do a full iron panel to determine if iron deficiency is present.

You can have low ferritin without iron deficiency.

You can have iron deficiency even if ferritin looks to be at a decent level.

You can have anaemia with or without iron deficiency.

Your haemoglobin level doesn't suggest anaemia but you haven't given the reference ranges for all those other tests, if you want them interpreted you need to post them. If you haven't got online access to your results then ask the receptionist at your GP surgery for a print out and then post the results/ranges here.

my ferritin was 50 about 6 months ago but now it has dropped lower.

Why do you think it has dropped? Were you supplementing and stopped?

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

sorry I have posted below but not sure if I replied to you or myself.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

Morning,I got my ranges.

Ferritin 23.5 (range 13-150)

White cell count 5.6 (range 4-11)

Platelets 288 (range 150-450)

Red blood cell 4.67 (3.8-5.8). 

Haematrocit 0.425 (0.37-0.48)

MCV 90.4 (80-102)

MCH 31.3 (27-32)

MCHC 346 (320-370)

Lymphocytes 2.5 (1-4.5)

Neutrophils 2.7 (1.8-7.5)

Monocyte 0.3 (0.20-1.20)

Eosinophils 0.0 (0.04-0.40)

Basophils 0.0 (0.00-0.20)

I checked back before I took levothyroxine & my ferritin was 66.2 (range 13-150).

I also had ferritin done in august 2022 when I was wrongly told to stop levothyroxine after being left on 25mcg for over 6 months. This was 50 and range was 15-50.

I have built up my levothyroxine thanks to an amazing lady on this group helping me and I am now able to function & currently I’m on 100mcg. 

my bloods on 24th April showed my ferritin drop to 23.5 and I have thyroid bloods next month.Thank you 😊

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Denny39

OK, so all in range and no suggestion of anaemia.

You still need a full iron panel to see if you have iron deficiency.

For some reason your ferritin has been gradually reducing. Heavy periods? Blood loss? I would discuss with your GP your concerns over this and this should hopefully prompt the full iron panel.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

yes my periods have been very heavy and very painful for a few days as though I can barely walk them days.

My walking/stamina is still not the best yet but on those period days it seems so much worse.

Thanks for your help. I will see if I can get any joy with the GP and if not will get it done private on medi checks.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

Hi, I have spoke to my gp surgery and they have added on my bloods in June serum iron, transferrin iron and ferritin bloods.

They said there is no option on there symptom for TIBC.

Will that be enough what I need?

Thanks

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Denny39

I would have said out of the three extra tests in an iron panel then serum iron and saturation percentage are the most important, I wouldn't worry too much about TIBC.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

Hi

I got my iron results:

Serum ferritin 65 (15-150)

Transferrin 2.3 (2-3.60)

Transferrin saturation index 27% (15-50)

Iron 15.8 (5-35)

Serum c.reactive protein level 0.6 (0.00-5)

Can I ask you opinion and if I need to supplement or not? Thank you

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Denny39

Optimal iron panel levels according to rt3-adrenals.org/Iron_test_... are:

Serum iron: 55 to 70% of the range, higher end for men - yours is 15.8 (5-35) = 36% through range which is on the low side.

Saturation: optimal is 35 to 45%, higher end for men - yours is 27% so again on the low side.

Transferrin: Low in range indicates lack of capacity for additional iron, High in range indicates body's need for supplemental iron - yours is 2.3 (2-3.6) so is low in range suggesting no supplementation necessary.

Your serum iron and saturation are on the low side but not dire and don't necessarily suggest iron deficiency but it may be beneficial to improve them to get to optimal levels. However, your transferrin level suggests no supplementation is necessary. We quite frequently see contradictory results similar to this which makes it difficult to know what to do.

Ferritin at 65 (13-150) isn't too bad although some experts say the optimal level for thyroid health is 90-110ug/L.

If you decide to supplement then it's essential that you monitor your levels regularly with a full iron panel every couple of months. Alternatively you could just ensure you eat plenty of iron rich foods which would hopefully improve levels all round:

Liver, maximum 200g per week due to it's high Vit A content, also liver pate, black pudding plus other iron rich foods:

bda.uk.com/resource/iron-ri...

everydayhealth.com/pictures...

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

Thank you for replying.

My ferritin at the hospital was 23.5 and then at the GP it increased to 65

Do you know if a heavy period could drop it that much? Or maybe they got me mixed up with someone else 🤣 as they couldn’t find me on the system when I went but I had the letter, so they let me see the consultant based on the letter and then when it was time to do bloods I wasn’t on the system and the lady said she would do a label for me.

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SeasideSusieRemembering in reply to Denny39

I expect heavy periods can affect levels but I have no experience or personal knowledge of this so can't say with any certainty how much effect they can have on levels, when I had exceptionally heavy periods for very many years my ferritin was never tested.

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Denny39 in reply to SeasideSusie

my ferritin was 50 about 6 months ago but now it has dropped lower.

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Denny39

Morning,

I got my ranges.

Ferritin 23.5 (range 13-150)

White cell count 5.6 (range 4-11)

Platelets 288 (range 150-450)

Red blood cell 4.67 (3.8-5.8).

Haematrocit 0.425 (0.37-0.48)

MCV 90.4 (80-102)

MCH 31.3 (27-32)

MCHC 346 (320-370)

Lymphocytes 2.5 (1-4.5)

Neutrophils 2.7 (1.8-7.5)

Monocyte 0.3 (0.20-1.20)

Eosinophils 0.0 (0.04-0.40)

Basophils 0.0 (0.00-0.20)

I checked back before I took levothyroxine & my ferritin was 66.2 (range 13-150). I also had ferritin done in august 2022 when I was wrongly told to stop levothyroxine after being left on 25mcg for over 6 months. This was 50 and range was 15-50.

I have built up my levothyroxine thanks to an amazing lady on this group helping me and I am now able to function & currently I’m on 100mcg.

my bloods on 24th April showed my ferritin drop to 23.5 and I have thyroid bloods next month.

Thank you 😊

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