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Hi. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the difference between a thyroid antibody test and the normal TSH and T4 test was? My endocrinologist has refused to do an antibody test.

My thyroid function fluctuates a lot especially I believe when I’m under stress.

I have never felt fully well on levothyroxine and often wonder whether in fact I should’ve ever gone onto it in the first place. I suffer a lot from adrenaline rushes and wonder if it’s anything to do with the medication.

For example, my thyroid levels have recently dropped from 7.1 to 2.5 within four months with no change in medication. I currently take 75mcg day. Thank you for your help .

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

philippa1412,

Most people with thyroid disorders have an autoimmune issue where the immune system slowly destroys the thyroid gland leaving them hypothyroid.

One way of testing for this is to check for antibodies produced in order to collect up bits of the thyroid gland as it is destroyed.

Although there might be many antibodies on our systems, two appear to be unique to autoimmune thyroid disease. Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies (TPOab) and Thyroglobulin antibodies (TGab).

Some have one of these but not the other.

Levels of antibodies vary over time. Eventually, when there is next to no thyroid tissue left, they can fall low enough for the tests to be negative.

These antibodies have almost nothing to do with your TSH, FT4 and FT3 levels. Sure, destruction of the thyroid means that your TSH will rise and FT4 and (eventually) FT3 will fall. But there is no obvious change in antibodies which is reflected directly in TSH and FT4/FT3 results at all the time between the start of the process and approaching the end-point.

Once proved you have autoimmune thyroid disease, antibody tests don't reveal a lot.

Could you tell us which test this is:

my thyroid levels have recently dropped from 7.1 to 2.5 within four months

Include the reference interval (range), if you can.

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philippa1412 in reply to helvella

thanks for the info. Sorry that was my TSH test. My T4 remains around 18:20. The ref range is around 0.8 to 5.5 I believe. T4 is 12 to 22.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to philippa1412

TSH doesn't always accurately reflect your status but that suggests you are currently under-dosed.

But, if you are taking in exactly the same dose as four months ago, and assuming the test then was not fairly shortly after a change, it strongly suggests you requirement has reduced. But you are still under-dosed.

Some people notice a significant difference between winter and summer. Typically this is discussed in terms of about 12.5 to 25 micrograms a day. But very difficult as we all have different physical environments as well as different bodies.

But maybe other factors apply? Like changes to diet or supplementation improving your ability to use thyroid hormone so what you are taking is being better utilised.

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75mcg levothyroxine is low dose unless you’re extremely petite

Do you always get same brand levothyroxine at each prescription

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested 

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once 

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies 

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis. 

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis 

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test 

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options and money off codes

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus both antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes both antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP or Endocrinologist to test vitamins then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3 and includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies -£29 

randoxhealth.com/at-home/Th...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning. 

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism 

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