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Sarah Myhill Suspended.

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I've not read any of her information on COVID-19 so can't comment but I thought people might like to be aware of the situation. See BMJ report bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p27... .

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Given that she wanted to be deregistered as a doctor in 2020 and she was refused by the GMC I can only assume this is part of a highly organised witch hunt. She's been investigated by them nearly 40 times.

Oh, and I thought she didn't prescribe any prescription-only medicines any more, she was strictly supplying OTC supplements?

I don't follow anything that Myhill does, but I do feel sorry for her.

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Alanna012

But the tribunal was told that the substances were not universally safe

I have to laugh, considering the vast amounts of people who die - particularly in the US - from 'universally safe' prescriptions every year.

She was unwise and incautious to say that the Covid vaccine was irrelevant, but I see nothing else that warrants her licence being suspended. Surely a warning woukd have done?

But I am starting to understand why I will never get appropriate help from a GP now. The fear of stepping outside so- called 'evidenced based' guidelines must be huge. I think I'll give them a break from now on.

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snow22 in reply toAlanna012

one doctor says that the third largest cause of death is now medicines.

The vaccine risks once all covered up has now got to mainstream media in the telegraph on the 9 of February. And The researchers paid to look at the safety of vaccines did not at first want to publish their data due to fear of never getting funding again.

And those who step outside the given narrative be it thyroid, covid etc are quickly punished. It has got to the stage where the most truthful doctors are those who have been suspended.

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Alanna012 in reply tosnow22

I agree 100%. Personally not had the vaccine, and was happy to take the risk. That said, stating that the vaccine is irrelevant because there are natural alternatives or treatments available, when you've already been investigated myriads of times by the GMC who clearly want any trivial excuse to revoke your licence, isn't wise. It also just isn't wise to say without qualifying in some way since it's not provable.

The entire thing is unjust. I suspect she has ruffled feathers with her book release, the title of which is provocative. It's a great title.

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Alanna012 in reply toAlanna012

I sound as if I'm criticising her. I think she's absolutely brilliant and I hope she wins this battle because she is a true doctor and there aren't enough of them.

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Avidreader in reply toAlanna012

AvidreaderA few seconds agoDr. Myhill helped me greatly when I got that weird flu & cough over Christmas it was frightening ( it was worse than the Covid I had in April - no cough a bad head cold ) my own Gp was clueless & just said go to A & E ! ( that’s a 21 hr wait last time I was there with a suspected brain bleed due to AstraZeneca ) so I can’t do that anymore- I used her salt pipe with iodine & Vit c , zinc Vit d & K & ofcourse all the usual lemon local honey ginger etc - in 2 weeks was better - I am grateful for her help

Marz profile image
Marz

I believe one of the senior editors of the BMJ - Dr Peter Doshi - penned a piece about vaccines, questioning this and that. I believe he is still alive !!

So it does seem Dr Myhill is being got at by the establishment. I personally have had great support from her and her website/books.

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Alanna012 in reply toMarz

Yes, she is being singled out.

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snow22

thank you for posting this article. I have read her books too and found her more helpful, knowledgable and concerned than any GP I have meet. So am sorry to hear this.

GMC have been hounding her for years for being an open-minded practitioner . They’ve finally been able to pin her on something concrete with a clear guideline contravention and they’ve jumped on it. That’s my 2 cents anyway.

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LindaC

Appalling! Another one... amidst the 🐍🐍🐍 Best to Dr S Myhill. xox

Marz profile image
Marz

Related Posts - on this page - are showing 10 more posts related to Dr Myhill if anyone would like more background reading. .

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AKatieD

Evidence based medicine, my .... These are the people that support levothyroxine only treatment for everyone, which is what has sent us all to TUK! If the BMJ practised what they preached more often we would all be better off!

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AmandaK

I don't recall Dr Myhill ever saying people won't catch Covid, just the opposite - that everyone is at risk and that it was imperative that we all take measures to build our resistance. That said, I don't agree with her anti-vaccination stance, but the fact that I've been following her treatment regime for ME/CFS and never become ill with Covid, as far as I'm aware, seems key to improved underlying health.

Moreover, Dr Myhill is insistent that everyone takes an iodine patch test to make sure iodine is safe for them. And I should know as I had a reaction when I did the test. It transpires that I can't tolerate iodine. So rather than acting irresponsibly, Dr Myhill is clear that people should check the treatment is ok for them.

I can't comment about the other issues, but the iodine issue has wider implications as it's used in mainstream medical testing such as brain scans using contrast.

If, many years ago, the radiographer carrying out the brain scan to discover the reasons for my pulsatile tinnitus hadn't made a mistake by not using the iodine contrast when she should have done, I might have become extremely ill as a result.

Interestingly, since taking Metavive I, as suggested by Dr Myhill, the tinnitus has largely subsided.....

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Marz in reply toAmandaK

I'm sure Dr Myhill is like many of us and would like a safe v@xx. That does not make us anti-v@xx....

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AmandaK in reply toMarz

I'm sorry for misrepresenting Dr Myhill's - and others' - stance. My words should have been more carefully chosen. Thank you for pointing this out Marz

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Brightness14

I have read the report, interesting, thank you. Our French GP prescribed me huge loading doses of Vitamin D not asking if I was already taking it. I was.

My GP's in the UK. one managed to lose the sight of my right eye, while after contracting a UTI and taking four samples was never treated and because of that I have a very poorly kidney. I could go on and on. These people are only human, some are good most are not, sadly.

Good luck to this GP after being hounded for far to long.

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Batty1

Take the Vaccine or Don’t take thats your choice just remember “ all magic comes with a price” how much are you willing to pay. This is true with all medications.

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userotc

As most have said, Dr Myhill has almost certainly been singled out fir indicating the covid vaccine isn't up to scratch. So I presume that the many other medics that have done that recently will also be suspended along with prominent pro-vaxxers? pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/366...

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Marz in reply touserotc

I did my best to read the above link. My non-scientific brain concluded our innate immune system is our best bet for prevention of upper and lower respiratory infections. Also when it comes to v@xxinations one size does not fit all.

Thanks for the link. 🌻

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userotc in reply toMarz

Indeed so optimisation of innate immune systems should generally offer the best defence against viruses like covid which the authors of the paper admit have "not to date been effectively controlled by licensed or experimental vaccines". So appropriate nutrition is likely a more effective/robust defence, as demonstrated with vitamin D test results e.g very recently 51-72% protection.

There may be a case for vaccinating those with compromised innate immune systems as it may prompt what they have ie limited, not mass vaccination.

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Marz in reply touserotc

Yes - nutrition. The paper did mention the gut microbiome which produced varying outcomes ! T-cells came late to the party but so important.

The immune system is a miraculous and complex mechanism and probably best left alone 🙃

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userotc in reply toMarz

Yes, and Ive read a scientific paper which states that vitamin D is crucial for T cells. Note that a friend of mine with MS decided against a covid booster following earlier vaccination then much later contracted covid. Fortunately her vitamin D and T cell levels were high - and she coped well with the virus.

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Partner20

To the many previous posters of replies, before jumping on the bandwagon I suggest looking at exactly what the reasons were for this most recent case and resulting suspension. It was not as simple as just hounding a GP for their anti-vax views. Also to be noted is the fact that it was not recommended that she be struck off.

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jimh111

I've had a little time to look at this. First Dr Myhill's response drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Respons... .

I don't know who represented the GMC in this case but in previous cases the GMC has appointed Mr Tom Kark, a brilliant QC (now KC) who usually tackles murder cases and national inquiries. The GMC also used Mr Kark in Dr Skinner's hearing. Heaven knows how much he costs, it shows the GMC is prepared to go to any expense to get a physician who is not fully aligned to the establishment.

The GMC has again made use of 'interim orders'. After the Bristol baby case there was an excellent proposal to scrap the GMC, they were useless. Somehow they persuaded the Government to give them the power of 'interim orders'. On paper this seems reasonable, a doctor can be suspended, monitored or restricted whilst the GMC carries out its investigations. In practice, they simply use interim orders as a means of punishment without having to have a hearing. In Dr Skinner's caes the GMC kept askiing for interim orders, promising they just needed a little time to bring the fitness to practice hearing. They had no intention of having a hearing, kept renewing interim orders and as a consequence Dr Skinner had a fatal stroke.

I don't agree with Dr Myhill's approach to COVID-19, the vaccines have been remarkably successful. A consequence of this success is that the risk / benefit profile increases over time as the protection from vaccination and vaccine protected exposure reduces the risk. This is false analysis, without the vaccines COVID-19 would be widespread and more deadly with a more rapid spread of new variants. Vaccines have perhaps been the greatest medical intervention. Bear in mind that COVID-19 is a comparatively mild disease. Anyone fancy getting polio, tetanus or smallpox?

Even if some of her ideas are a bit loopy it's important to allow diverse opinions in medicine (and in science). This facilitates progress. True, there will be casualtites from practitioners using ineffective or dangerous therapies but this will be small compared to the losses from a long term unchallenged therapy that doesn't work. Diversity and rigorous debate are good.

Dr Myhill apparently missed a fractured hip, perhaps easier than we might think. This would never happen at my GP surgery, as is my recent experience. We cannot book future appointments, much telephone at 8 am to book an appointment that day. However, every day I am told all the appointments have been booked (in spite of using my radio-controlled Citizen watch to make sure I dial the last digit at exactly 8 am). The same occurs if I use the online booking the moment it opens. I've a mind to go along to the surgery at opening time to see if any patients are actually seen. A sense of balance is needed in these difficult times.

She is also accused of not using evidence based medicine. As far as I know doctors are not obliged to use this methodology. In reality very few do. The advocates pick and choose which evidence they want - a bit like reading Pravda. For example, few doctors look at clinical signs and symptoms when diagnosing hypothyroidism. They relie on a TSH assay. In reality they do diagnose based on symptoms because the patient turns up with symptoms. If they randomly tested the population tehy would be diagnosing twice as many cases as half of people with an elevated TSH don't have hypothyroidism (this is half detected by random testing, not half with symptoms).

Another example of ignoring the evidence is the link between high T4 levels and cancer. For a long time it has been known that people with a high normal TSH (without thyroid disease) live longer than those with a low normal TSH. More recent research shows that this is because those with a higher TSH tend to have a lower fT4. High normal T4 has been linked to cancer and the mechanism is largely understood (not by me). A high normal T4 is also linked to cardiac deaths. Purely to get a sense of scale consider that one study found that those with a low normal fT4 live about 3.5 years longer than others. Now the general population can't choose which group they belong to but when hypothyroidism is treated we can decide on levothyroxine monotherapy with a highish fT4 or combination therapy.

Assuming a UK population of 67.5m with 2% hypothyroid gives 1,350,000 hypothyroids, mostly on levothyroxine monotherapy. If they were switched to combination therapy keeping fT4 around e.g. 13.0 (10.0 - 22.0) it would give 4,050,000 extra years of life which is equivalent to 54,000 deaths pa assuming 75 years life expectancy. These numbers are not precise, they are intended to give the roughest guide, an idea of the scale of the problem.

My attempts to get the endocrine establishment interested in this fall on deaf ears. Levothyroxine monotherapy is sacrosant, doctors cannot lose face. A high T4 seems to promote rather than cause cancer. It seems obvious that when treating thyroid cancer patients we should not use levothyroxine in doses that promote the growth and spread of the cancer. If we need to suppress TSH (which is beneficial in some thyroid cancers) we should mix in some T3 so that suppression is achieved with safer T4 levels. I've had one small success on this front, the new NICE guidelines say 'TSH suppressio with thyroid hormone', the original text referred to levothyroxine.

In summary I feel some of Dr Myhill's ideas are a bit whacky and carry a bit more risk than she discloses. On the other hand there are far worse transgressions by physicians who refuse to diagnose quite obvious myxoedema (because 'the blood test says so') and carry on using a therapy that is now revealed to be carcinogenic in higher doses.

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Marz in reply tojimh111

Great response from Dr M. Please can you link the information you mention re the risk/benefit of the v@xx - sounds interesting.

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jimh111 in reply toMarz

I don’t have references to how the risk / benefit changes, it’s a bit of common sense and mathematics. Let’s assume that the risk of harm from a vaccine stays constant. In the early days of an epidemic such as measles or smallpox there is a high risk of catching it and immunity is low because few have been vaccinated and few have developed natural immunity. At this stage risk / benefit ratio is very low.

Some time later when vaccination is widespread and large numbers have been infected (whilst protected by vaccines) the chance of being infected is low and we are much better protected if we do get infected. The risk / benefit ratio now is much higher. This would be unacceptable if it were not the case that vaccines are remarkably safe.

It’s tempting to then stop vaccinating because the risk / benefit ratio is now compatibly high. Alas, vaccines develop mutate and if we let them spread we can end up with a new round of mortality. This is the case with e.g. measles, especially In less developed countries. The exceptional case is the smallpox vaccine which has been so successful we no longer need to vaccinate anyone. I’m drifting off topic but this is a very nice presentation gresham.ac.uk/watch-now/vac... .

So, we have to be careful about risk / benefit studies because they tend to measure the ratio now and don’t take into account what might happen to this ratio if you loosen the screw.

In the near future I think vaccines will make massive improvements in the treatment of cancer. In a way a cancer is a virus made up of your own cells.

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LindaC in reply tojimh111

Strangely enough, within Psychology [not the therapy kind, albeit with Clinical, 'Abnormal' and Psychiatry being covered], one of my Majors was 'Decisions in Uncertainty'. This included Game Theory, Cost Benefit Analysis, with Mini-max and Maxi-min, all being within Probability, Likelihood and Inference. (Some minor quantum was included but only in relation to human measurement. Indeed, individual human differences - being the antithesis of [obviously necessary] population statistics - was sufficient to have my physicist professor [aviation, NASA] flip over to psychology. He was a dream to behold!) Virtually every statistical test was conducted, obviously within the appropriate choice of methodological experiments... I loved it! Such a shame that, even after becoming qualified, doctors are not required to be exposed to different ways of thinking; yes, time constraints but there is something quite lacking in medical training.

Another absolute requirement, for me, would be Signal Detection Theory, using ROC curves... i.e. 'Is something there or not'? (Submarines in wartime :-( = useful if you have highly accurate operators!) ROC not only determines the individual accuracy but also the confidence that s/he was accurate in an individual curve. It is relatively simple to set up and how 'good' a Receiver' is could be a matter of life or death. I almost launched my PhD on these most fascinating theories with a view to this being applied within health-related fields. (My Prof, of course, supervising but something got in the way! Was it worth it... 😥 CBA 😭)

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jimh111 in reply toLindaC

I studied maths but have forgotten it all which is a great loss. I would love to have the time and capability to study it again.

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LindaC in reply tojimh111

Right! So wish there were 'refreshers' - even online in these times - to skip through for pleasure. Yes, the principles of all that's above remains relatively intact and I could, with the equipment, reproduce... yet age marches on and so must I. :-)

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tattybogle in reply tojimh111

"in the near future I think vaccines will make massive improvements in the treatment of cancer..." It probably has already , HPV virus vaccine /Rates of Cervical cancer ?

i seem to be in the unfortunate 15 % ( again!) who have recurrent HPV that hides and then pops up again a few years later ... I've had friends die of Cervical cancer in their 30's .. o even though i'm usually a bit wary of vaccination and tent to prefer the idea of not messing with the natural function of the immune system , i was happy (on balance) to advise my daughter have the HPV vaccine when they started giving it to teenagers.

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jimh111 in reply totattybogle

I was thinking of treatment rather than prevention. Sadly Dr Skinner was the first to suggest cervical cancer was caused by a virus but unfortunately he suspected the wrong one and missed the Nobel Prize.

In the future we should have vaccines that fight a cancer but I'm guessing they would have to some extent be individualized for each patient. It should be even better than SARS-Cov-2 vaccines because cancer is very much systemic and not just e.g. on the surface of the lungs.

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Marz in reply tojimh111

Dr Fauci et al have published research in Cell stating the v@xx doesn't perform as stated on the tin. So not sure of your sources stating its success. Of course just this morning the aforementioned research paper has been removed ?? Hopefully the overview I have remains ....

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jimh111 in reply toMarz

Drifting off topic but it seems the social media gang are misrepresenting Fauci apnews.com/article/fact-che... . I think this is the paper but haven't read it cell.com/cell-host-microbe/... .

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Marz in reply tojimh111

I suggest reading the research paper when you have time ! AP funding ? Another source that needs looking into - sigh !

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jimh111 in reply toMarz

I'm confused, what's 'AP'? It was funded by the NIH and NIAID, Fauci works for them.

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Marz in reply tojimh111

AP - Associated Press. You mentioned it above - not me ! Maybe I should have said APNews ....

The research was published in Jan after Fauci retired....

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Avidreader

Dr. Myhill helped me greatly when I got that weird flu & cough over Christmas it was frightening ( it was worse than the Covid I had in April - no cough a bad head cold ) my own Gp was clueless & just said go to A & E ! ( that’s a 21 hr wait last time I was there with a suspected brain bleed due to AstraZeneca ) so I can’t do that anymore- I used her salt pipe with iodine & Vit c , zinc Vit d & K & ofcourse all the usual lemon local honey ginger etc - in 2 weeks was better - I am grateful for her help

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Avidreader

AvidreaderA few seconds agoDr. Myhill helped me greatly when I got that weird flu & cough over Christmas it was frightening ( it was worse than the Covid I had in April - no cough a bad head cold ) my own Gp was clueless & just said go to A & E ! ( that’s a 21 hr wait last time I was there with a suspected brain bleed due to AstraZeneca ) so I can’t do that anymore- I used her salt pipe with iodine & Vit c , zinc Vit d & K & ofcourse all the usual lemon local honey ginger etc - in 2 weeks was better - I am grateful for her help

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