Thyroid S batch 22054

[Paquita]

I just got this batch in, manufactured in July 2022. Does anyone have feedback how they fare on it?

[Framboise]

Hi Paquita, I know of about three people with this batch and the only feedback so far is that they look greener than usual. I haven't heard of anyone finding their potency to be different from usual, but it's probably still a bit soon to know that.

I've previously asked the manufacturer about the colour differences and was told it was completely normal. I took a photo of three tablets I had from different batches and different years and they were all slightly different and all had been fine for me.

Please will you let us all know what you think of your latest batch, whether stronger, weaker or the same as usual

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

At least no negative feedback, then. I will start mixing the new batch with the old batch in a month or so.

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

I started mixing 22054 with previous batch a month ago. I might feel a bit less able to relax. Just read on helvella 's blog post that it is a bit more potent, although I don't know the potency of my previous batch. I could go down a bit once I'm on 22054 fully. Have you heard more from the other users?

[Framboise in reply to Paquita]

Hi Paquita, I'm afraid I haven't heard any more about batch 22054, so I take that to mean that people taking it are happy with it. It does have higher percentages of T4 and T3 than some other batches though, but it seems the weaker batches are the ones people complain about more. Over the years I have sometimes had to alter my dose (3.25 at the moment) by a quarter tablet either up or down, so there is leeway for you to alter your dose, depending on how much you take a day, if you find you don't settle on it well and continue to feel less able to relax. Thank you for coming back and letting us know about it!

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

I went down a quarter grain and feel better already. I only take 1 grain of the new batch and 2 of the old. So I think once I'm fully on the new batch, I may need a lot less. Like 3/4 grain. But I will mention that once I'm there. Could be a couple months.

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

I've been on 2. 5 grain for more than 2 weeks now, so 3/4 grain less than normal. A lot sooner than expected. 1.5 grain 22054 and 1 grain 21037. The latter is said to be a bit weaker, so maybe that is why.

[helvella Administrator in reply to Paquita]

Thyroid S Batches

A summary of known and suspected potency of Thyroid S batches.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/thy...

[Paquita in reply to helvella]

That is where I got the information from, thank you.

[Framboise in reply to Paquita]

Thank you for coming back and telling us this Paquita, that's a lot to have to reduce by, but I hope you continue to feel ok taking that now. I wish we had an idea of the potency of the pre-2021 batches to see if they had fluctuated as much.

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

I wonder what dose I will end up taking when I have switched completely. It's my 5th year of taking Thyroid S and I have never altered the dose before.

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

I recently upped the 22054 ratio from 1.5 grains 22054 and 1 grain 21037 to 2 grains 54 and a half grain 37. I have all the symptoms of upping dose like I had in the beginning. Anger, mood swings. Amazing how much more potent this batch is.

Update: definitely not "potent", because not resolving symptoms on a low dose and overstimulated on a higher dose.

[Framboise in reply to Paquita]

Hi Paquita, thank you for coming back and telling us how you're getting on. It's ridiculous that a batch can be so noticeably different isn't it! 22054 is 108.8% T4 and 106.2% T3, which are the highest percentages of any batch we've been told so far, so I'm going to see if I can get the amounts of 21037 to compare. I'll let you know if I get them!

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

That would be helpful, thank you!

[Framboise in reply to Paquita]

Hi Paquita, I've now got the percentages of your previous batch of Thyroid-S, 21037, which was T4 106.3% and T3 100.5, compared with 22054 which is 108.8% T4 and 106.2% T3. I'm not really sure whether the percentages make much difference, but to someone very sensitive to T3 they may do. Did you take T3 prior to taking NDT and if so could you take large amounts, or only small amounts? Do you think these figures explain the difference between your two latest batches? The real question is whether these differences always existed or if something else is causing the problems so many are now having!

[Paquita in reply to Framboise]

Thank you! I only tried T4 before. Last week I upped with a quarter of 21037 and it was still too much. So I will be taking at least 3/4 grain less once I have fully switched to 22054.

This would not be explained by the percentages. I felt more off than when I took a too high dose of previous batches. Emotional and plain rubbish.

[ColdBanana]

any good way to preserve the pills ? theres so many. 500 +

[ColdBanana in reply to ColdBanana]

i got a batch a few months later than yours, of thyroid-s

[Paquita in reply to ColdBanana]

I keep it in the fridge.

[ColdBanana in reply to Paquita]

Interesting. Does that work for you? I might try it.

[Paquita in reply to ColdBanana]

Has worked for the last 6 bottles.

[Paquita]

My final verdict on this batch is: it does something, but not everything. It wasn't as bad as my last batch of Tru, which did not do anything at all. But I cannot go higher than 2,25 grains due to overstimulation like side effects, while labs very suboptimal.

 helvella This is for your blog.