So much for seeing the NHS Endo and becoming all legit.... now need to go and lead the GP to the letter they have had for a month so that they can take over the prescription..... 🤬
Same saga after the Meno Clinic, they act all dumb and then all of a sudden realize, oh yes we can do that 😐
Haven't asked them to dispense just provide the script, as this would be too much of a learning curve for them all in one go 🙄
Edit: I have now been told my prescription had been send to my rather brilliant independent Pharmacist! Who has it ready in a basket for me 🥳 also added to my repeat meds
Quite a result as the group that the Surgery is now part of has not prescribed in the past!! Education for them 😏
Thanks for all your help and insight everyone👏🤗 ... no doubt it won't last but here's to progressing the cause
Loads of really useful responses within this post... read on and be empowered 🤗🤗
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the route to getting GP's to prescribe T3 on NHS goes :
NHS endo does trial.. and prescribes (and hospital pays for) T3.... until end of trial :
THEN endo writes to GP to request they take over prescribing on Shared Care Agreement .
if this accepted 'trial of t3 by Endo' route is not followed , then GP's aren't allowed to prescribe T3 ,
So i thought the endo should be issuing the prescription at this point , not the GP ?
There is a clause in most CCG / ICB area's Liothyronine prescribing guidelines saying that privately sourced T3 does not count as a trial, and GP's should not take this prescription over. The only route is after 'trial by endo' THEN GP agreeing to take over prescribing via shared care agreement .
Have i misunderstood .. you got referral to NHS endo , then he just said what dose to take and wrote to GP to ask them to prescribe on shared care agreement straight away ?
Surely ENDO needs to be prescribing it for now while you are 'on trial' ?
what a bloody fart about this all is ,... they weren't joking when they decided to call it "a trial".. you could probably get yourself aquitted from an armed robbery charge with less effort than it takes to get some 'legal' T3 sorted .
Ah right .. maybe i''ve got the wrong end of the stick .,,, but yes hard to know exactly what the 'rules' are unless you read the local prescribing policy RAG (red amber green) codes carefully .. several have been revised during the last few years ..and different areas do have slightly different rules .
I wanted to say all of this but my brain wasn't up to it today.
This is just more reasons for me to dig my heels in deeper and continue to fork out for T3 from my own pocket. There's yet another post today about being messed around with NHS T3 prescriptions. 😡
Good for you and I hope all works out in your favour Eeyore. Personally my one and only experience of being under an NHS endo was absymal - paid out for numerous tests myself and still doing so. Although I was offered a 3 months trial on combo he wanted me to come off all thyroid meds first to see what was happening even though I'm so chronically fatigued already. At the end of the day I didn't need any more stress and so I'm still funding my own NDT although it scares me as to what will happen if I end up in hospital for any reason - sometimes life sucks😱
I'm with you on that worry... should we just get a T3 dependent tattoo?
I don't mind buying my own but why should I? This isn't in my head or a request for unnecessary cosmetic surgery or botox? Forced to act like some underground druggie!
'You'll have to keep buying it on the internet as the NHS won't supply' 😡🤬🤬😡
If you have a smart phone you can set it up under your health setting which can be accessed through a locked phone by medics... assuming you are glued to your phone which alas/ thankfully I am not 🙃
I thought about getting a medical alert bracelet that has a list of my medications just in case something happens and I don’t have my phone. I’m not sure how those medical alerts bracelets actually work.
They work by having an identifier - the medic can contact the issuing company to get details.
A small amount of ultra-critical info. will be on the thing itself. E.g. Steroid alert.
Everything depends on you, the individual, making sure the information is up-to-date.
They all depend on the attending person finding the bracelet (or whatever) in the first place. I'm sure medical people know the standard locations to look (wrists and neck being obvious).
There is a clause in most CCG / ICB area's Liothyronine prescribing guidelines saying that privately sourced T3 does not count as a trial, and GP's should not take this prescription over. The only route is after 'trial by endo' THEN GP agreeing to take over prescribing via shared care agreement .
Lets hope they are as clueless about this bit 🤫(shush)
Patients who are currently obtaining supplies via private prescription or self-funding should not be offered NHS prescribing unless they meet the criteria in this guidance.
The consultant endocrinologist must specifically define the reason if any patient currently taking liothyronine should not undergo a trial titration to levothyroxine monotherapy, and this must be communicated to the GP.
and
In rare situations where patients experience continuing symptoms whilst on levothyroxine (that have a material impact upon normal day to day function), and other potential causes have been investigated and eliminated, a 3 month trial with additional liothyronine may be appropriate. This is only to be initiated by a consultant NHS endocrinologist. Following this trial the consultant NHS endocrinologist will advise on the need for ongoing liothyronine.
I think the fact I had backed it up with the wonky DIO2 gene and had shown to have done my homework and mentioned TUK 😏 also filled in the before and after questionnaire I passed the trial bit...
Oh I'd only looked up the county before I started the referral route as they obviously do hand it out more than a lot of other counties.
Interestingly 2 prescriptions in October for my Surgery but none for the Practice that has just taken it over.... excellent ammunition for tomorrows battle 👏
Also this from my ICG. Explains a lot and is horrifying their conversion rate of T4 to T3, also that they exlude people with anxiety! Cannot believe that, well actually I can. Grr.
There seems to be a rather superficial level of … what here? It seems to have been constructed from only really their own point of view. There is absolutely nothing here about the patient’s view. What are we? Lumps of meat? I can see why (again superficially) the NHS endo did not want to bother with me with those ‘guidelines/rules’ if they are similar in my area. I had a heart attack with no sign of cardiovascular disease. They check me annually and in the depth of my notes it reports no sign of cardiovascular disease but I am in with everyone with cardiovascular disease (which twenty years later off course I could now have, having been at least twenty years undiagnosed). Another victim of little education/training/experience of thyroid/hypothyroidism by both GPs and Cardiologists. What a blooming tangle? The one about anxiety really takes the biscuit. They just can’t be bothered with those patients because they might need a little more care to settle into treatment. They need to sit up and take notice.
Thanks Tatty 'Exceptional' that's me, I have come across this before as it's in my ever growing unruly file (but forgotten or chosen to not let them put me off 🤷♀️)
Thought you were toying with me when the first link popped up 😆
Just an observation. If one lives in a completely ‘NO T3 ZONE’, which says it is fully complying with the rules and yet the statistics show no actual t3 being prescribed. How can they get away with this blatant non-compliance? So I (and others) can never have access to NHS T3 because we just happen to live in the NO T3 ZONE. This must be what is called ‘the post code lottery’. My area says that about three possible prescriptions called ‘outliers’. I have no idea what that means. Special cases? Which off course might be allowing ‘them’ to get away with it. Anyone know what ‘outliers’ refers to?
Ok that would make sense BUT it would still show non-compliance, I think. That is only a very partial compliance, I would say. Still someone would need a lot of persuading no doubt.
I am lucky I can pay. Others can’t. I will be pursuing this when hopefully my T3 kicks in. It’s the principle of the thing. I have not checked specifically what my area’s guidelines are. However they say they are fully compliant on Tanya and co’s work. Then their stats say no prescriptions. How can they possibly be compliant when there are no prescriptions?
you'd need to know precise definition of 'no T3 zone' .. ie, what does your areas regional prescribing policy actually say about prescribing T3 for each circumstance and what are the RAG (red amber green) codes for each ?
The rules aren't 'rules' they are suggested guidelines . each area can vote on precisely how they choose to implement them, and with what criteria eg existing patients allowed to continue , but no new ones allows to start .... or maximum dose is 10mcg or ...
The guy who rules here is possibly the most powerful person in endocrinology in the whole country, just at the moment. He makes no bones about being totally anti T3, in public. I fully intend to make a nuisance of myself. I really think this is a very bad situation and I am constantly looking for the correct word to describe it. It’s something to do with the Third Reich. One day!!
”outliers” is a statistical term which basically means the data points fall outside the expected results. If you imagine a trend line plotted on a chart of data, the outlier data points will fall a long way from that trend line.
So you’re right - these are the “special cases” or the “exceptions” to the rule (oops I mean guidelines 😂😉)
Thank you ElleBee71. I have seen this before somewhere else, this expression ‘outliers’ and never really understood it. I tried the usual places but nothing described it clearly. I thought it might be a ‘specialist’ reference within statistics itself. Only ‘someone who knew would know’. So thank you again, now I won’t be so ignorant when I am raising the questions I have in mind!
my GP refused to take over my T3 prescribing after Endo asked them to - he did warn me that might happen but told me not to worry as he would continue prescribing - which he does, and I get 6 months at a time after blood test and phone call . It doesn’t stop the GP ringing me every time I have test to bring up me low TSH 🤷♂️. In fact have another of those calls this morning .
It makes we weep to read what people go through on here: all for the crime of wanting to be well …….
It does make you feel like we would be better served seeing a Vet as they are far more about wellbeing and physical symptoms 🐶 along with a weigh in and a treat when leaving
funnily enough i was in the vets the other day , woman comes in with her 'ancient cat in a bit of a mess poor thing ',... dithering over whether she should have the blood tests to investigate it for Hyperthyroidism , or have it put down.
The service is definitely good ... (and they have quality street on the counter )
mind you the blood tests were £190 .. and the medication would be £50/ month. .....ouch.
Vets are taught to take the time of Dobbins last dose of Levo into account when interpreting fT4 tests unlike GP's. (Apparently horses have it sprinkled on their breakfast oats)
We have all felt like that cat... oh to have the choice eh
How very civilized, yes it wouldn't be a cheap route but at least the understanding and knowledge is there and the willingness to treat your condition... probably cost about the same as a private Endo?
Probably get a good deal on worm and flea treatment thrown in 😉
Actually, not quite like that for me..... When I saw a NHS Endo re a ndt. He wrote to the GP instructing them on what dose etc. The GP issued the prescription and then after four years of monitoring me the NHS Endo passed care back to the GP as I was very stable. GP had no problem with prescribing as they were just following the NHS Endo instructions. Now of course it's different and after being left alone for a few years they've decided it would be good to meddle with my dose! They know nothing about ndt so am not best pleased!! Sigh 😢
I saw an NHS Endo earlier this month. He gave me t3 and t4 tablets for 28 days. My GP to test blood after 6 weeks and Endo will see me in 3 months. The t3 and t4 are already on My NHS app for reorder. So I guess I can just re order when I like ?
I have a copy of the letter he sent my GP. That stated I could continue with the combination t3/4 or go back on NDT if I wished, depending on how I felt. Nothing about shared care.
they all do it a bit differently .. some have to use shared care agreements , some perhaps don't.
edit .and the details of what is written in shared care agreements will vary by region too. you may have one that says gp prescribes/ tests and endo oversees.
Oh Eeyore 😐 I'm so sorry you have to go through all this, its unnecessary I can't believe how wrong they get simple instructions..
It's obviously a bit different where I am as my Endo just sent a letter to my GP to prescribe T3 and it was done when I spoke to the clinical pharmacist,
I don't get a hospital prescription like it seems some do for the first few prescriptions?
Endo said they will manage me for a year & do bloods but as far as I know my GP prescribed my first one as 'clinical letter' is clearly on my record now, X
I need high dose T3-only to function but the endo I saw said ....levo! That, after 20+ years on levo nearly killed me.
I have the Dio2 polymorphism/ homozygous so very poor conversion
I have a form of Thyroid Hormone Resistance....most likely all my life, which results in low cellular T3
So, both glandular and cellular hypothyroidism.
And not a snowballs chance in Hell of being prescribed my therapeutic dose of T3.
So to function/ survive I have to source my own T3
If I have to be in hospital or in time, a care home, the best I can hope for is levo which would put me back to square one.....with no T3 I probably wouldn't last very long anyway!
My GP knows all this and has her hands tied behind her back. At first she was horrified but I have explained why I need to do this so she has now come to understand what I'm doing and now leaves me to it. A good doctor who cannot treat her patient through no fault of her own
My self medicating in her care puts her at risk so I heve signed a document stating that I take full responsibility for my use of T3.
T3 brought me back from the brink but the endo just didn't understand my inability to respond to levo or my explanation as to why.....or my need for a supraphysiological dose of T3-only.
I've given up being angry and am now resigned to taking care of my own thyroid health it's easier than trying to reason with people who have closed minds and deaf ears....and I feel in control.
it is a scandal of monumental proportion.
I know I'm not the only one by a country mile
I know people have decided to end it all because they felt so ill and desperate
I'm in Scotland and followed the excellent petition to Holyrood. Some time ago I emailed every MSP and MP about the T3 debacle....I received only a handful of sympathetic responses.
Following the petition the guideline became that if a patient needs T3 it should be prescribed....sounds hopeful.... but it needs an endo to agree that need. And we know how that pans out!!
TUK also have an ongoing campaign seeking change
And I know that there is very little hope that much will change unless the decision makers climb down from their lofty pillars and admit they have been wrong....and risk losing face!
I realise I'm very fortunate, despite ill health and dense brain fog I managed to work out why my health was declining. I'm also able to pay for my T3 and any tests required which is uncomfortably divisive and should not be. So much for the genesis of the NHS with free care from cradle to grave!
I had the support of my husband who did some of the things for me that I wasn't able to do myself. Had I not done this I would most likely now be bedridden like my grandmother before me.....or dead.
it took nearly 3 years of " digging" and trial and error before I began to feel some improvement. Unfortunately decades of declining cellular T3 has caused irreparable damage but I now function fairly well.....thanks to a therapeutic dose of 100mcg T3. I've made it to age 77 and my heart and bones have not suffered!!
I'm so, so sorry you have to go through this struggle to get the T3 you need. I expect it's a fairly low dose compared to mine and should be readily available
I can think of no other chronic condition ( life threatening even) where essential medication is refused.
I write this rant not seeking any sympathy but to highlight the absolute madness that is thyroid care and to share my despair at what seems like a never ending fight to see justice for thyroid patients.
If you live in Scotland I assume you have thought of referral to an endo working in Scotland. Your case does seem to be highly unusual even for the stuff we read on here. Would your case be too outrageous even for someone very much onside for T3?
If you live in Scotland I assume you have thought of referral to an endo working in Scotland
I'm sorry I don't understand your point...
The endo I saw works in Scotland.....I live here and for numerous reasons would not wish to be treated far from home.
Like many, he was not a T3 enthusiast but fortunately I had done a lot of reading before I saw him and soon realised he did not know how to help me.
Charming.... but condescending!
When a professional tells you that taking T3 is like getting into a car....you can arrive safely but you might also die ( I paraphrase!) ....their professional credibility goes out the window. They clearly do not understand the issue.
Then again, most endos are diabetic specialists!
My case is not so unusual...as a high profile example, .have you heard of Lorraine Cleaver? There are other patients who have writen about their dire treatment.
Consider the late Dr Gordon Skinner and Dr John Lowe? They understood T3!
I'm quite sure there are people out there who are suffering and dying from thyroid disease, behind closed doors, because lack of appropriate treatment has caused their bodies to slowly shut down.....poor diagnoses and treatments.
Right now, after much "digging", I'm in control of my treatment. It is working, and I really don't want to have my health deteriorate again, as a consequence of treatment by medics who do not understand my condition....my body was slowly shutting down.
Would your case be too outrageous even for someone very much onside for T3?
My case is not "outrageous"....it is just badly understood by the people who are supposed to be able to treat their patients.
Man was able to successfully develope the James Webb telescope so the intelligence exists to do extrordinary things....but it takes the will. And in my experience the will to deal with patients who do not readily respond to fairly basic thyroid treatment is just not there.
If the treatment offered doesn't work then invariably the patient is considered non-compliant
Perhaps, in an ideal world, I might find an endo who might prescribe supraphysiological doses of T3.....but, the cost would inevitably have them running for the hills. Yet, vast amounts of money are ( rightly) targeted at other diseases.
At age 77 I'm not prepared to put myself through another battle to be heard. I know what is wrong and I know how to fix it.....it was hard work establishing that So, I'm not prepared to be told again, by anyone who cannot verify their opinion, as I can, that I am wrong.
Science is on my side and it provides the facts....for a large part the rest that is trotted out is just opinion.
My views are strongly held and over some time I have become increasingly intolerant regarding the current perilous state of thyroid treatment . .. I wish I had the strength and the clout to contribute to the battle to change things.
TiggerMe is absolutely right...." the T3 fiasco continues"
Sorry DippyDame, my head was quite somewhere else. I totally respect your route. In fact it’s more than respect. I was just thinking of your costs and wondering if there was a way where you could cut costs. I meant your case from ‘their’ point of view was outrageous, not ours, us on the forum. I found and endo in Scotland. I have had to go there because I live in what I call a NO T3 ZONE. I am surprised at how cheap my prescription is but I am not on anything like your dose. However reading other posts I think the NHS actually pays more, which I find very odd indeed and as you say they would probably run for the hills. I have read the things you have highlighted. I am aware of Lorraine Cleaver. I am Scottish living in exile so I take keen an interest in what’s going on up there too. Anyway to get back to the matter at hand, no criticism was intended. I follow your posts and have nothing but admiration for you. I should have realised an experienced person like yourself would have covered all the bases.
Oh DippyDame I do hope no offence taken. I do care very much about your “techy about T3 stuff”. Honestly I am too. As you say “We’re all in this mess together”. So glad we have somewhere to talk!
I'd probably be pushing up the daisies by now if I hadn't found this amazing forum....makes me "techy" ( maybe not the best word to use!) when I think of others who are wrongly stuck in the system
My CCG told me about 6 years ago that my case wasn’t “exceptional enough” despite the fact that all brands of levothyroxine cause full body rash and head to toe itching. Finally, after yet another refusal from the CCG, I left the ball in my GP’s court and said “well what are you going to do about it?” “What happens when I end up in a myxodema coma and die because you “cant” prescribe a drug that obviously works and has been recommended by the NHS Consultant Endocrinologist”? (The Endo is a Professor and has just been honoured in the New Year Honours list). Within a week I had my NHS prescription.
Well done you 👏👏 You just can't believe they will block something so essential for your health, wellbeing and basic function, it totally beggar belief when as you say to leave you untreated could lead to such awful outcomes, how they choose to ignore the obvious signs that your body is in distress, for me kidney function was the biggest scare as my mother had ended up on dialysis and that is a torturous existence.
As you say this isn't really my argument, the Endo has prescribed it so it is over to the GP if they feel they don't agree to pass it back.... in the past they have crumbled under persistent pressure and me producing documents that tell them how they ought to behave 😉
This is a fight that need fighting to make it easier for the many that will follow us
You ought to be able to dig around and find the letter from your GP to the Endo putting your case forward... as this is what the Endo will base the decision on whether to see you or not
I've never tried. It's such a hassle just connecting to the surgery, waiting forever on the end of a phone or for a response from the online request. I had to get 'aggressive' just to get a reply to an email ('a response would be curteous').
You should re able to request access via their website and then you can log in whenever to view your records... like you say dealing with them in person is soul destroying 😕
Dear Eeyore100, Frankly, I've lost all interest in the entire thing after 14 years of it. As long as I can function reasonably well which right now, I can, I just want to let sleeping dogs lie wherever they are, lest they wake up and bite me. I've reached the point whereby the less I have to do with the NHS, the better off I am, it's just too stressful.
You need to ring your surgery and ask for a copy of your referral. Don’t be fobbed off, it’s legally yours. I did that before a referral back to NHS Endo. It’s a good job I did because the referral notes were greatly biased to the GPs ideas so I wrote a rebuttal and took that with me to my appointment. You need to be proactive.
They were very hesitant to give me a copy but I told them it was my legal right. I think my GP will be less frugal with the truth if I ever need a future referral 😊
I’m so sorry that you’ve run out of enthusiasm - I know exactly how that feels but I’ve always been a stubborn b****r and I’m not letting them get away with the BS anymore. I’m sure my GP hates me but the feeling is mutual. He’s partly responsible for my ongoing problems so I don’t care what he thinks of me anymore 🤬
Well good luck with your quest, I really hope that you're successful. As for me, I really need to focus what energies I have on more creative endeavours than battling the morons who have abandoned the Hippcratic Oath in favour of the status quo. ¡A luta continua!
My NHS endocrinologist (at the request of an appointment from me via the GP) replied in a letter to my GP and without seeing me, giving instructions to titrate up the levo, with a side note “Hope this helps”. I got the distinct impression he was hoping the GP got help from this piece of advice - not the patient! I was more ill than I have ever been in my life - even when I had a heart attack I felt better than on that dose. When reported to my GP the reply was something like ‘Well you have plenty of room in your TSH.” They really have no idea.
Well, I was on 125mcg of Levo for several years which reduced my symptoms a little but clearly, I'm a bad converter of T4 to T3, so last year I increased the T4 to 150mcg with mixed results. I felt better but I had problems with my throat feeling tight and I got a hoarse voice, so the GP cut it back to 125mcg (my TSH was 0.02 mIU/L (0.35 - 4.94mIU/L). It took several months in fact, for my throat to return to 'normal'. I've yet to get another blood test. It all seems arbitrary to me and a bit of a lottery, the GPs are clueless, the Endos are a law to themselves and we, the patients are last in this NHS chain of indifference.
You may have responded to me on this thread as I got an alert. Thing is, HU won;t take me to that reply and the thread is now almost 100 replies long and I cant find it. Sorry!
Yes I saw that, congrats! I'm cheering you on with pom poms and virtual dancing and encouragement from the side lines. No way I would want to be put through similar. May not respond to this thread now as its too long and too hard to find the post!
T3 just dropped to 12.5mcg Tiromel in readiness of starting Roma 2 x 5mcg next week
Had been on 100mcg x 6 T4 but I'll return that to 100mcg per day might add in an extra 100 per week also... as currently T4 is 14.4 down from 15.8 when previously taking 700mcg per week which was too low at 38%
I started taking T3 in August 2022 so have been between 12.5 and 25 mcg
TiggerMe arTistapple are you on Facebook? If so, join ITT Improve Thyroid Treatment. We have template letters for you to use, giving details of all national guidance and parliamentary statements on T3 to send to everyone you need to - endo, GP, MP, ICB. Pharmacist, PALS, Healthwatch etc.
hello eeyore , I know your frustration, I can’t believe the way they treat us all , it’s a pity some of them don’t have the same problem they might understand a little better than they do at the moment hope you get on better than I have , good luck
He said my GP should now prescribe it. I declined as don’t want to go through all the aggro, especially if it is declined after a while. I also don’t want to change brands as I don’t do well on some fillers.
My endo has now changed to requesting to see blood test every time he resends a prescription. This is causing me issues as I can’t seem to get blood out of fingerprick tests any more. I’m hoping my GP will oblige with more frequent tests. And even a private endo bleats on about my very low TSH - even though my FT4 is 50% through range and FT3 80%
It’s like getting blood out of a stone (well literally with my fingers at the mo 😂) and all I want is a small dose of T3. I’d like to try T3 only, but don’t have the strength at present.
I’m glad you’ve finally got your prescription and hope you don’t have to go through so much hassle again. ☺️🧁
Hi, it is a bloomin drama whichever route you take isn't it 🙄I've got the anger in me at the moment so I'm unstoppable in this my first battle... no doubt of many...
Your bloods look very like my optimal so no doubt trouble ahead😫 I've just done 10 weeks on reduced T4 ( to raise my TSH 🙄Endo speak!) I don't recommend it (but you don't know unless you try).... down to 24% now, fog returned below 50%, weight increasing, even less energy reserve, possibly reason for current anger and intolerance of the world?😠🤣
The whole finger prick drama must be mind over matter, it never flows... but then an hour later when you take the plaster off it bleeds and it hurts so much more than a proper blood draw.... just another weird hypo blood thing?
I had the “let’s reduce your T4 to see if the TSH will raise a bit” last January. I felt dreadful. Like I’d hit a brick wall and it causes bad fatigue and migraines. So I messaged and told them id put my dose back up as I couldn’t function.
My GP has just authorised a thyroid blood test for me (she’s my favourite 🤩). So I’ll get that done and then have a zoom call and politely tell the endo “I’m not over medicated and I’m aware of the possible long term issues” blah blah blah.
My life is rubbish without T3 so I’m not prepared to give it up. And it’s not like I want to go out and party past 8pm! But I do need to be able to drive to check on my mum if there’s an issue any time night or day. (Rarely happens thankfully)
And if I can’t look after my grandsons once or twice a week then what am I here for?
I look like I’ve been using a hammer and missing the nail after doing my test 😂 2 fingers on each hand with plasters. Totally get what you mean. Predict text gets even worse when you’re pressing 2 letters at once due to bits of plaster sticking out………
He was ok down to 0.02 but at 0.01 he starts fidgeting.
One minute I’m a person, not a number. Then I’m not ok on 0.01 again! Getting on my wick now (must remember to not say that in front of 3 yr old grandson as he says the same to other grandparents 🤭)
But we can all roll our eyes on here as we know we are ok 🙃
I think more and more each day similar. It feels like forever to have got this far. I have no intention of giving up my private prescription because of exactly all that you outline but I want to do something, if I can, to help support those who can’t afford it. My endo is writing to my GP so this will be interesting. My guess is if the protocols affect her (GP) then I will hear from her. However if it’s something to discuss with me, FOR ME, adult to adult, I won’t hear a blooming thing.
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