Dr. E. HERTOGHE on Chronic Benign Hypothyroidism

[helvella]

For those interested in the history of thyroid treatment, you might find this document of some interest.

Dr. E. HERTOGHE on Chronic Benign Hypothyroidism

Sometimes it can be interesting to look back at the history of thyroid medicine.

This paper was published in 1899 – just seven years after Murray published his paper on treating patients using animal thyroid extract. The changes in that short time were profound – in this paper we can already see reference to commercial thyroid extracts.

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[ 2022/12/31 13:02 Have just updated the document tattybogle crabapple ]

[Tythrop]

Ive sent the article to my friend who is trying to persuade medical experts that Non- Lyme Tic Bourne illness is a real thing ..that tics spread other illness than simple Lymes ,and that they should have regard to symptom commonality and treatment reaction ( like with this guy and his theory about hypothytoid illness ,)

[LindaC]

Thank you, helvella. Grand man and son!

The Mark of Hertoghe, I discovered... and I'd never plucked in my life - docs 'think over-plucked' - when the tails disappear!

[tattybogle]

Fascinating . thanks helvella .

first time i've read a reference to pain in kidney area as a sign of overmedication.. i had this when i was overmedicated .

love this bit:

"Tobacco must be severely forbidden to children...

....Just today, I was brought a 12 year old diabetic, so thin, so cachectic, that we had to carry him. I thought he was going to die in my office.

This kid smokes his four cigars a day..... "

[helvella in reply to tattybogle]

I particularly noticed the numerous references to teeth and gums.

All too often entirely missed these days.

[tattybogle in reply to helvella]

that bit too...... unfortunately accurate ...

[Noelnoel in reply to helvella]

Ooh, does it happen to mention about bleeding gums. I’m convinced hubby is hypo and this last year, every day he has to have fresh pillow case because there’s always a 10p-sized spot of blood on it. We also found his ferritin was in his boots. Any relationship I wonder?!! Hmm, methinks there is

[TiggerMe Ambassador in reply to tattybogle]

first time i've read a reference to pain in kidney area as a sign of overmedication.. i had this when i was overmedicated .

That is interesting, I have had a nagging pain in my kidneys. one more so than the other and am currently reducing my T4 so it will be interesting to see if it goes away

[tattybogle in reply to TiggerMe]

me too left side . really nasty on and off, got worse over a few months .. Doc sent me for kidney ultrasound looking for kidney stone ...nothing there.

melted away following dose reduction from 150mcg to 125mcg.. can't remember how long it took to go .

[ICE187 in reply to TiggerMe]

Hypothyroidism lowers the kidney function by like 20%. Gluten can also trigger inflammation in the kidneys, liver, pancreas, gall bladder and any other organ in the areas of the kidneys. I am currently under medicated with Levothyroxine. I kept complaining of right side kidney pains. At the time, I was eating all gluten. It wasn't until I started playing with my diet when I realized gluten was the main trigger. Serious kidney pains. 1 tiny bit of gluten kept me in pain for days. A meal that is gluten kept me bed ridden for over a week. When I would cut out gluten completely for 2 weeks, my pains stopped completely. I repeated this test over a dozen of times because I love gluten foods and didn't want to have to completely remove them from my diet lol.

[TiggerMe Ambassador in reply to ICE187]

That is quite a find, so it cuts both ways!

I have done the gluten free route and found I had more of an issue with amaranth and buckwheat also can't tolerate nightshades and there is often potato starch in GF products, so you really have to read all the labels or just stick to homemade... the main gluten culprit was barley followed by spelt!

Thinking about it, I've had 'back ache' for the last 10 years, which was likely this area inflamed and slow digestive tract, though there was a disk issue to start with which is also linked to hypo I have since discovered... I notice it more now that it is just one side, so maybe I'm actually noticing the improvement as it has become more defined? So it's possibly a slightly better kind of bad at least 🙃

My kidney function improved considerably when I started taking T3

[tattybogle]

correction ... i think ( page 43)

"If we had at our disposal human thyroid, fresh, alive, in its nascent state, and if we could pour hypothyroid directly into the bloodstream,..."

Think that should be:

" .... and if we could pour ...?.... directly into the bloodstream of the hypothyroid....

"Si nous avions à notre disposition de la thyroïdien humaine, fraîche, vivante, à l'état naissant, et si nous pouvions la déverser directement dans le sang des hypothyroïdiens..."

[helvella in reply to tattybogle]

Thanks - have corrected and new version will be available sometime soon.

[crabapple]

A couple more corrections

Page 19 "Les règles ont toujours été profuses." has been translated as "Rules have always been profuse."

Page 20 "Elle a toujours eu des règles profuses." has been translated as "She has always had profuse rules."

Les regles relates to menstruation. ( I did a search, my French is not that good!) Possibly periods would be a good fit?

[helvella in reply to crabapple]

Thank you! I'll correct asap.

[arTistapple]

1899 it was known thyroid medication made angina type symptoms disappear. Mmmmm. Year 2000 all forgotten. Who are these cardiac doctors? Who are these endocrinologists? Who on Earth is responsible for the training of medics? How come so much ignorance? It truly is a scandal of enormous proportions.

[crabapple]

Thank you for posting this. I've not finished it yet but it's facinatig.