Recent results

[Karen-Eleanor]

I’m UAT (secondary) and Consultant (private) want to reduce my dose from 1 grain (am) and 1 grain (pm) Armout Thyroid following recent results.

Blood profile was MMH and done at 7:30 am with no meds and just water to on drink. Last dose was at 14:30 day before. The May results (same time etc) was on 1 grain (am) and 3/4 grain (pm).

I’m reluctant to reduce as was very tired on the 3/4 grain pm.

09/11/2022TSH 

0.01 mIU/L (0.27 - 4.2) -6.6%

T4 (fT4) 18.2 pmol/L (12 - 22) 62.0%

T3 (fT3) 6.2 pmol/L (3.1 - 6.8) 83.8%

T4:T3 Ratio 2.935 

Vitamin D 172 nmol/L 

10/05/2022TSH 0.01 mIU/L (0.27 - 4.2) -6.6%

T4 (fT4) 14.4 pmol/L (12 - 22) 24.0%

T3 (fT3) 4.8 pmol/L (3.1 - 6.8) 45.9%

T4:T3 Ratio 3.000 

All input much appreciated

[Karen-Eleanor]

whops a couple of typos ! But I don’t know how to edit - it is 1 grain am not 2!!

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Karen-Eleanor]

click on small down arrow at bottom of opening post …to right of “report”

Choose edit

[SlowDragon Administrator]

Important to test vitamin D, folate, B12 and ferritin at least once a year

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

[Karen-Eleanor]

I take vitamin D (5,000) with vitamin K2 (100) and Mg Glycinate (600) with Omega 3.

[pennyannie]

Hello again :

With NDT you dose to the relief of symptoms and was used successfully for over 100 years and long before we had the science of blood tests, let alone ranges , boxes, and score cards.

The ranges, blood tests and guidelines were introduced to be used alongside medicating with Big Pharma's T3 and T4 thyroid hormone replacement, and launched on the back of Natural Desiccated Thyroid.

As you have Hashimoto's you are liable to ' swings in symptoms ' and erratic own thyroid hormone production so you do need to learn to read your body and look to maybe adjusting your own Armour dose and look to calming down your immune system response.

thyroidpharmacist.com for all things Hashimoto's AI Disease.

No thyroid hormone replacement works well until your ferritin, folate, B12 and vitamin D are up and maintained at optimal levels and inflammation, antibodies, and any physiological stress ( emotional or physical ) and depression dieting and ageing all can play a part in T3/T4 conversion.

The conversion ratios are only applicable when on T4 monotherapy.

If you felt well on 2 grains I should think that's where you need to go back to as Hashimoto's systematically disables the thyroid gland so, over time, I would imagine you will need more not less thyroid hormone medication.

[Brightness14]

Your levels sound good on 2 grains, what reason has the Endo given for the reduction.

[Karen-Eleanor]

Saying I’m overdosed because the test was done more than 12 hours after taking last meds

[Jazzw in reply to Karen-Eleanor]

How much more? How many hours was it? (how did he know how many hours it was? Next time, maybe fib a bit… )

Is he suggesting reducing by a quarter of a grain?

[Karen-Eleanor]

It was about 17 hours - she asked . I guess I shouldn’t have been so honest. Yes 1/4 grain reduction.