Where to get contents of Thyroid meds tested and verified

[ainslie]

I bought some some NDT and I want to get the contents/ingredients checked to see how much T3 and T4 is in each, does anyone know of a lab in UK or Europe or in fact anywhere that does it

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If you've bought legit NDT then it's content has to be as stated. Why would you need to check it?

[shaws Administrator]

I think that 'numbers' would be given on the leaflets.

NDTs were given from 1892 onwards and were the very first replacements that saved patients lives from then on.

I believe that many, many people - before 1892 - died but NDTs (made from animals thyroid glands) became the lifesavers. I doubt there were many scientific facts known at that time and more notice taken of how well the patients improved on the product and no longer died due to hypothyroidism.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

I found this link simply by doing a search and it was the first one that appears to do what you want:

Medical Engineering Technologies Ltd, Unit 16, Holmestone Road, Dover, Kent CT17 0UF

met.uk.com/medical-device-t...

No idea of cost.

No idea of their reputation.

And, given that you are discussing dessicated thyroid, it is imperative the lab understand the protein binding of thyroid hormone within such substances.

I wouldn't be altogether surprised if the cost is greater than throwing away what you have and buying new Armour Thyroid. But, as I said I don't know the cost, maybe it will be less than I fear!

There will, of course, be other such labs around. But by looking at the words on the site, you'll probably be better able to do searches to find them.

[humanbean in reply to helvella]

What search words did you use to find this company?

I was dubious about a supplement I bought some time ago and wanted to get it tested but couldn't think of the search parameters I would need. I also thought it would be more expensive than it was worth, but never found out for sure. In the end in my case I just took the supplement (I can't remember what it was), and it was fine - but I felt I was taking a risk.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to humanbean]

I used "analytical chemistry laboratory medicine" as in:

duckduckgo.com/?q=analytica...

Tried a few other combinations of words before coming up with that. And there might be better choices.

[humanbean in reply to helvella]

Thank you. Since it worked it was obviously better than anything I came up with!

[ainslie in reply to helvella]

Fantastic, it says on the website they can check doses in meds , I will call them and find out costs etc. Thanks for taking the time.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to ainslie]

Do let us know!

And make very, very sure they understand the protein binding issues because, if they don't, any analysis could be very misleading.

[ainslie in reply to helvella]

I suppose its important I understand it before trying to explain it to them, if you have time could you tell me what it means and the relevance please

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to ainslie]

Most chemical testing relies on knowing the molecule(s) you are looking for.

Imagine you wanted to find chewing gum in a room. You look for the classic white chic-lets. But there are none.

Just as you decide there isn't any, you find your foot has stuck to the carpet. And there is a lump of chewing gum stuck to the carpet pile.

Synthetic T4 and T3 is a known and fairly simple molecule. But in the form of desiccated thyroid, it is well and truly stuck to the thyroglobulin (a big protein inside the thyroid). While it is stuck to the thyroglobulin you might not see it. Even if you do find some, you need to be sure you have got it all in order to making an accurate measurement. No good only getting half of it.

This link (which I think should be freely accessible) is a little old and the images could be better. But a very light skim read should give you some idea. Thyroid hormones are actually created in contact with thyroglobulin. So if you take an actual thyroid gland and dry it, most of the thyroid hormone will be still attached to the thyroglobulin.

If we take desiccated thyroid, our digestive system has to effectively detach the thyroid hormones from the thyroglobulin in order for us to absorb them and get them circulating in our bloodstreams.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK2...

[ainslie in reply to helvella]

thank you, I will have a good read of the link while scratching my head

[ainslie in reply to helvella]

the protein binding bit

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to ainslie]

Hopefully the above reply makes some sense?