has anybody that is on Adrenavive and has taken it in low and slow increments had any uncomfortable effects?? It’s mainly in the first week of each rise ?
I would say that I am also dropping my Nutri Adrenal caps at the same time, so whether it’s the digesting of both I’m not sure. ….I seem to have some hypo symptoms and am nauseous and weary every morning.
i would love to know if anyone had any symptoms as I have a long way to go yet !!!!
Thank you.
C70rol,
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Thank you Radd very much. I am certainly very down about the whole adrenal situation. A couple of weeks ago i started increasing Adrenavive by very small increments, as I am a very sensitive person. But initially all was fine , with some side effects, like nausea, but then I started to decrease my Nutri Adrenal, at approximately the same amount as increasing the Adrenavive……..However then the problems started.
I had a massive GI (gastro Intestinal) stress while eating breakfast and almost passed out. When I looked up GI stressors, it said to stop the product immediately. - which I did. So I am now back on the N.A only , and feeling weak and very low.
I have got room to move my N A up for a while and thought of taking Nutricology, which I’m told is a similar product to N A..
So that would be a better transition, I hope ?
I would love to hear from people who have taken Nutricology and had success with it. It may well be better than N.A
Or is the Cortex that Allergy Research make a little more gentle than Adrenavive? ……
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C70rol,
Good adrenal health is important for thyroid meds to be allowed to work well but I couldn’t get on with glandulars, although have tried several brands & combos so can’t offer own experiences.
Dr P’s book is very helpful in introducing adrenal glandulars and actually suggests reducing/halving thyroid meds for around 10 days when starting a product like Adrenavive II. I presume you are using up old Nutri Adrenal stock so being pushed into the transitioning.
Both are bovine but Nutri-Adrenal is more likened to Adrenavive l containing only adrenal glandular where as Adenavive ll is a combo of adrenal and numerous other glands/organs more like the old NAX (Nutri Adrenal Extra).
Maybe you would do better switching with a like-for-like? NutriCology Adrenal is just adrenal glandular but contains tissue from both the medulla and cortex so may be a bit racy if you suffer adrenaline rushes. Allergy Research Cortex contains bovine from Argentina and is the same dose as Nutri, ie 1 tablet = 100mg. I think this would be the most suited swop for Nutri Adrenal.
Do you take them before 1pm? I have even read of members taking a whole dose very early morning to support the adrenals when they are supposed to produce most output. A bit like Paul Robinson’s T3 timing. I think Dr P used to split his dose morning & lunchtime. What ever you do I suggest you introduce low & slow.
Good luck 😊
Thanks for coming back to me again. I can certainly vouch for the importance of good Adrenal health. I’m surprised to hear you’ve had a few trial and errors of adrenal products. I assume you eventually got one that suited you?
Yes I have quite a few pots of N.A to use, just not wanting to use the wrong product again
I had heard that N.A was most like Adrenavive l, but I was advised NOT to use that as Adrenavive l does not have the hormone removed, but N.A does. So that Adrenavive l, can make you more hyper.
I’m certainly thinking that like for like would be best, which is why I’ve honed in on the Nutricology natural adrenal. Though their is cortex in Nutricology, but not in N.A. However the cortex may be a little less than Adrenavive ( which I did find a bit racy for me). And certainly gave me gastro intestinal stress, pin pricking and nausea every morning !
It’s my AM cortisol that is the lowest for me, so I definitely have to take most of adrenal meds in the early morning!! I tend to get stronger by lunchtime !
Thank you so much for your help Radd. !!!
C70rol,
'I had heard that N.A was most like Adrenavive l, but I was advised NOT to use that as Adrenavive l does not have the hormone removed, but N.A does'.
Neither Nutri Adrenal or Adrenavive l state the hormone content and both contain whole glandular, but Adrenavive l tablets are twice as strong as Nutri, ie 200mg as opposed to Nutri’s 100mg. Maybe you just need to half the tables?
I was confused because you refer to Adrenavive ll in the title to your post. I also mistakenly said Adrenavive ll is a combo when its only the cortex (must be the yesterdays heat! 🤪 apologies). Adrenal Cortex means there is no adrenaline so may be better suited but these still come in 150mg tablets so more than Nutri.
As I’ve mentioned above Allergy Research are cortex only and the same dose of 100mg, and the other one members have recommended is Thorne Adrenal Cortex that are just 50mg tablets so you have more control regarding dose adjustments.
I'm a strong advocate of Vit C for adrenals and still continue to take upto 3g daily.
Of please don’t apologise, it’s easily done, especially (as you say)” in the heat.” My information about one product having the hormone removed and the other not, came from a very pricey nutritionist I saw. - So she wasn’t as good as I thought then !! ….but yes I knew that the capsule amount was greater in the Adrenavive, than the Nutri Adrenal. So I had to make up my own capsules, to do the ‘slow and low’ increase. This morning I contacted the company that sells the Allergy Research/Nutricology products, and it appears
they do Adrenal Cortex….plus …Adrenal Natural Glandular,.
Both products can have either a Nutricology label on OR an Allergy Reseatch label on , when you buy either of those products.
As they are one and the same company !
It rather threw this morning when Yesterday l ordered , what I saw on line , was a Nutricology product delivered in an Allergy Research label. - hence my call to the company !
I also like the Thorne products and took Thorne adrenal cortex , initially when first diagnosed, but as I now take 500mg glandular caps, that would have meant a lot of the Thorne capsules
Yes I too take 3Gg of Vitamin C daily.
Thank you Radd, it’s been good to meet you !
When I first started it I took a small dose and then increased every two weeks until I was on two am and two early pm. I used to take it with my Metavive just before breakfast and again before lunch. I then had advice to separate it and take it a while after Metavive and it was only then that I occasionally experienced nausea and slight abdominal burning sensation so I changed the mode of taking again and now I have it with breakfast (instead of on an empty stomach) an hour after Metavive and no longer have any ill-effects
Hi Noelnoel. Thank you so much for replying. It is so unusual to see Adrenal posts on the forum. I have just replied to Radd, (above you), so you may see from my post to her that I too was taking Adrenavive in small increments and only really had nausea as a side effect. But then I started to reduce my Nutri Adrenal , at the same time and as increasing the same increments as Adrenavive., ……..but as you will see from My reply to Radd it really upset me by giving me GI stressors and I was told to stop the Adrenavive, straight away , which I have done.
So I’m wondering if someone can tell me if Nutricology helped improve their adrenals or whether there is a gentler Cortex product than than Adrenavive. ………
as reducing the Nutri Adrenal at the same time isn’t comfortable for me????
Any help is so welcome ?!
C70rol
perhaps have a look at phosphorylated serine/seriphos. It’s being talked about for adrenal support. I’m not sure yet how it works (or if it works at all) but it’s something I’ll be looking at
Thank you for your very thoughtful reply , and such a while since my post too !!! I will look up the phosphorylated serine/seriphos………you have caught me at a very low time, and it’s all to do with my ‘adrenals’. - Briefly I had a busy weekend ( one day with friends and the other day with family. )Well those two days were followed with very little, rubbish sleep and even palpitations as well last night ! And so very low and very tired today! This morning I was even wishing I had a fellow HU friend with a similar situation, as this is such a lonely journey !
So thank you so much for your contact !
I’m thinking of starting to transition from Nutri Adrenal to Nutricology some time soon. But not looking looking forward to it too soon. So your advice MIGHT timely? I wonder if anyone else on HU has or is using , that might be worth knowing?
How are you getting on with your adrenals, and life in general.
Do let me know.
Thanks again , it was lovely to hear from you ,
Diana.
Hi C70
Sorry you’re feeling low. Rest assured you’re not alone and someone will pop up with info on phosphorylated serine if you start a new post on it
I’m sorry too that I can’t help any further than to say that when I switched my timing of adrenavive and began taking it on an empty stomach, I subsequently suffered with nausea and a slight burning sensation round about the transverse colon area. Very unpleasant; I had to lie down until the horrible wave of nausea passed because I felt as though I would faint
I stopped taking it for a while to give my stomach a break (all the supps we take must surely have an effect on the gut!) but reintroduced it making sure I always took it with breakfast and I’ve had no further troubles
I haven’t taken a saliva test in a long while so I’ve no idea what my adrenal numbers are but I can say I’m sleeping much better, so imagine my numbers are better too. The sleep improvement has enhanced my life to such a degree that I can answer your question about “life in general” with a resounding: at the moment it’s unrecognisable to my previous insomniac’s life
NB adrenavive ll is just adrenal cortex with nucleotides and no other organs but please check that info for yourself
Hello Noelnoel, Sorry to be a bit slow in coming back to you, but I put out some feelers about the American product you suggested, mainly to a friend who is a nutritionist, with a lot of knowledge on American adrenal support meds.
I did a bit of searching myself, which looked quite tempting for me , especially in regard to sleep. However my friend came back to me last evening and said that I was definitely not to take it, as it is an adaptogen for people with high Cortisol, and so high adrenal stress!
It was good to hear how well you are now.! Have you been taking the Adrenavive long?………I did try to get on with Adrenavive, but it really didn’t agree with me.
I guess it was because I have been on Adrenal Concentrate for several years, so transitioning from one to the other gave me more side effects , each time I moved up, (especially since they are two totally different products!) …….so I’m hopefully going to transition soon to Nutricology Adrenal Natural Glandular, which is apparently very close to Nutri Adrenal, but has a small amount of cortex and medulla in it. I really hope I will see some success soon .
All the best
Diana.
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Hi Diana
I can’t comment on the products you mention as I’ve never used them and don’t know a whole lot about the adrenals anyway
What I do know is that after taking a cortisol test some years ago I began taking adrenavive ll and felt better. I’ve taken it ever since so really should test again which I have been planning to do for months but haven’t because the test is bothersome. It requires six saliva samples throughout a day
If you haven’t taken a test you probably should and even if you have it might be worth repeating to just double check what your adrenal status is right now. Things change; you’ll be able to make a better informed choice as to what to take in the here and now
I have a regenerus comprehensive adrenal stress and CAR test which was a replacement for one they messed up two years ago. Speaking to you has prompted me to take it out of the cupboard with a view to doing it, so thank you for that!
Regarding seriphos, I know nothing about that either but as with all health matters due diligence is key because practitioners of all disciplines have been shown to be sometimes wrong. That’s not a particularly helpful statement but unfortunately true. They’re only human after all
Hi 
My friend can’t handle adrenavive without eating before as otherwise it gives her tummy ache. I once took some adrenavive out of the capsule and the anxiety/bowel impact was hideous! I am fine as long as it’s in the capsule.
I recently began adrenavive II and III. I find I get my worst symptoms when the adrenavive wears off. I take 150mg on waking, 300mg at noon and 150mg at 4pm but my saliva results showed I have extremely low cortisol. I only take the cortex and I am extremely prone to anxiety so don’t want any extra adrenaline. I had to reduce my thyroid medication (NDT) I got dreadful anxiety, sweating, panic, nausea etc. (which Dr Peatfield’s book said will happen and for me he was completely right) at the moment I am now taking zero thyroid meds, 600mg adrenal cortex a day and lots of vits and minerals, and I intend to try and tolerate ndt again in a few weeks when I’ve been on the cortex a while.
yes I too found Adrenavive to be very strong capsules, and I think the problem you had with the anxiety/ bowel situation was probably a GI stressor. I had a similar situation and when I looked on Google it told me to stop that medication right away. , which I did.
I am a very sensitive person, so I just continued taking Nutri Adrenal, (550), which is much easier to take, but it is not as strong as a Cortex product. However as Nutri Adrenal is not in existence now, I am transitioning onto Allergy Research - Adrenal Natural Glandular. It is the whole gland from the cow with the Cortex included ( small amount), so hopefully that will be comfortable.
However I am going to try and add in some Thorne Adrenal Cortex before lunch . They are only 50mg per capsule, and are known to be quite comfortable.
My Armour Thyroid, has been reduced, but I would never drop it too far. In fact when I had my thyroid bloods done recently. my T4 and T3 had both gone down a bit. Though I don’t want to increase it any more if I can help it. I’m getting my Saliva test done this week, so I’ll see what that says. But I’m sure my early AM level is still low. I’m not sure ! It’s difficult to know where you are, without a test. But I don’t like doing the test, I can get quite anxious about the whole thing !
I hope all goes well for you. It’s certainly an awful illness to have !!!!!
good to hear you have a plan 😊 do you know the guidance for adrenal testing when we’re on adrenal supplements?
yes, I’ve done quite a few! Can I help you with anything?
Big stomach pains: I started taking Adrenavive III, two capsules in the morning, as instructed by my practitioner. I have been taking it for couple of days on empty stomach because that’s written on the bottle. About 10min after taking I start feeling quite big pain in my stomach, nausea, and I start sweating. Basically a very upset stomach that lasts for 30-60minutes at high intensity and then the whole day some pains pop up in my belly time to time, same as when I had digestive issues in the past (inflamed stomach from H Pylori and modern food). When I eat a lot of meat after the pills (I am a carnivore) it helps to get rid of the big pain in about 20-30minutes. I have to try to eat it with my food next time, but anyway I don’t think I should be taking it when it’s causing me harm. I’m not the only one, from the comments I’ve read here. Not sure whether it’s the actual adrenal cortex or the Ribo nucleotides they added into the capsule. BTW the Ribo nucleotides cause some problems in some Hashimotos patients as you can read in another post here healthunlocked.com/thyroidu.... The document explaining it more: healthunlocked.com/redirect.... Basically the Ribo nucleotides boost the immune system and shouldn’t be taken by autoimmune patients. They are also in Metavive capsules but those seem to have much lesser effect on my stomach. But it may be the cumulative dose of the nucleotides as Im taking Metavive when I get up and then Adrenavive half hour later. I just don’t think I would be reacting to an animal tissue with big pain, when on the carnivore diet I eat nose to tail and it’s the most healing diet I’ve tried for my digestive tract. I’ve tried many diets including raw vegan. BTW for everyone suffering from Hashimotos or adrenal fatigue, you should be on carnivore diet or at least a healthy keto diet. Look into it please. You will not regret.
Dido 76, this post is two years old
Adrenavive lll x 2 capsules is the equivalent of Adrenavive ll x 4. Way too much as a starter dose; no wonder you feel unwell. I suggest you find a practitioner who understands the importance of taking great care when using adrenal products
My suggestion is that you start very low and slow and take your first dose after breakfast to avoid nausea or digestive upsets. Eg, if you have only Adrenavive lll, split the capsule and take just half after breakfast. Close the capsule, store in the fridge and take the remaining capsule the next day after breakfast. In time your tolerance may improve and you can try using it again on an empty stomach and gradually increasing the dose. When I first started with it I took a dose with breakfast and a dose with lunch. Currently I use it a breakfast only
Often, people blame nucleotides when actually it’s the lack of understanding of how to take the product
Best of luck
This post is two years old
Adrenavive lll x 2 capsules is the equivalent of Adrenavive ll x 4. Way too much as a starter dose; no wonder you feel unwell. I suggest you find a practitioner who understands the importance of taking great care when using adrenal products
My suggestion is that you start very low and slow and take your first dose after breakfast to avoid nausea or digestive upsets. Eg, if you have only Adrenavive lll, split the capsule and take just half after breakfast. Close the capsule, store in the fridge and take the remaining capsule the next day after breakfast. In time your tolerance may improve and you can try using it again on an empty stomach and gradually increasing the dose. When I first started with it I took a dose with breakfast and a dose with lunch. Currently I use it a breakfast only
Often, people blame nucleotides when actually it’s the lack of understanding of how to take the product
Best of luck
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