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Food myths busted: dairy, salt and steak may be good for you after all

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Food myths busted: dairy, salt and steak may be good for you after all

A new Swedish study says decades of official dairy wisdom is wrong. Here, a nutrition expert examines more science that questions standard health advice

theguardian.com/food/2021/s...

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tattybogle

:) :) :) :) would it be immature of me to say " Told You So !"

I've always eaten lumps of butter frequently , lumps of cow/sheep occasionally , lumps of sea salt on nearly everything .. and it's bleedin obvious that if you interpret '5 a day' as meaning 'it's OK to drink smoothies all day ' rather than 'eat a wide variety of different coloured (whole) vegetables' .. it will just mean eating more sugar.

That's not scientific either .. purely anecdotal .. but when it comes to food i'd rather trust 'what my granny ate' than 'proven science' for my information anyway.

my granny also said 'don't play about with your food' .. and if more food producers paid attention to their granny's advice , we'd all be much healthier , whatever we ate.

don't put it through a factory . just cook it and eat it . ( :) with butter and a bit of salt on)

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marigold22 in reply to tattybogle

My great aunt regularly ate home cooked fruit cake with lashings of clotted cream. She lived to 92.

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TSH110 in reply to marigold22

I like mine with Cheshire cheese! Even better with Christmas cake 😋

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SmallBlueThing in reply to marigold22

Magnus Pyke proclaimed that fruit cake was the ideal food for active children.

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Ellie-Louise in reply to tattybogle

Memories of bread and dripping every day for tea. Yum…especially pork dripping. 😊

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Partner20 in reply to Ellie-Louise

I had some last week!😋

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Ellie-Louise in reply to Partner20

Yum, I’m envious. With our mam it was a choice of bread & jam or bread & dripping. The dripping always won. I wonder where she got it from because I only remember roast on Sundays and later on the Billy Cotton Band show on the radio while she was cooking in the kitchen.

Happy days

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Partner20 in reply to Ellie-Louise

Wakey waykeee!!😁

Ellie-Louise profile image
Ellie-Louise in reply to Partner20

Lol.

You too then. 😂

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Partner20 in reply to Ellie-Louise

🤣😂🤣

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Lovecake in reply to Ellie-Louise

With salt sprinkled on (and I would have been less than 10).But the meat was good. Fresh cooked meal from scratch every day, and I ate large portions even though I was small. Fizzy at Christmas only.

But we did make cakes and my mum and nana cooked with lard too 😋

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bagpuss61

Those foods are fine if your in good health with a great digestive system. Otherwise one has to be more selective if their body is in a state of imbalance. ie, a body with autoimmune and pathogen issues. Its not that black and white!

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jgelliss

I love dairy . But unfortunately dairy doesn't like me. So I have to refrain from having it. They don't do things like they used to . In our grandparents time food was more in it's purest version the way it was meant to be.

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SmallBlueThing in reply to jgelliss

... apart from the rampant adulteration!

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Lovecake in reply to jgelliss

Dairy doesn’t like me any more either 😣

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jgelliss in reply to Lovecake

Try having almond milk yogurt. It's a great substitute.

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Lovecake in reply to jgelliss

I also like coconut milk yogurt, although it probably has more saturated fat/sugar than almond milk. I make gf pancakes for breakfast with coconut milk a few times a week and like oat milk if I have Rice Krispies (it’s the kid in me 😉), or custard 😋 I find almond milk too thin for decent custard.

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jgelliss in reply to Lovecake

Great. There are many alternatives to dairy. Go for it. And enjoy it.

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Lovecake in reply to jgelliss

Thanks. Still miss a nice glass of cows milk though and also Mr Whippy ice cream 😋

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jgelliss in reply to Lovecake

I feel your pain.

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greygoose

Ahhhh Articles like that warm the cockles of my heart! Whatever they are.

On the subject of eggs, when people comment on the number of eggs I eat, I always tell them that in ancient China, women who wanted to be beautiful were advised to eat 30 eggs a day. I don't think I could go that far, but if I choose to eat four boiled eggs in one sitting, I ruddy well will! :D

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tattybogle in reply to greygoose

eggsactly !

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Spotydave in reply to greygoose

Well said !

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OudMood in reply to greygoose

Is 4 eggs a lot? 😳🙈😬

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greygoose in reply to OudMood

In some people's opinion, yes. My brother thinks that two eggs for breakfast is bordering on decadent excess. lol

But I can't eat more than four at a time because I start to feel a bit queasy. I begin to find them a bit sickly after that, much as I love them. :)

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to greygoose

I could eat egg yolks almost indefinitely. But whites only when beaten or mixed in - soufflé, omelet, meringue, etc.

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greygoose in reply to helvella

Hate meringue, find omelets very sickly and soufflés a bit pointless. My favourite is fried eggs, where the edges of the whites go all crispy. Yum!

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OudMood in reply to greygoose

I would normally have 2-3 but could easily have 4 if hard boiled. So in a day that’s quite a few eggs ( say lunch and dinner).

So my expression is…. 😳😳😳

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to OudMood

I did post the other day about the effect of egg white on biotin.

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greygoose in reply to helvella

Did you? I missed that. Must say, I prefer the egg yolk to the white. And have been known to eat the yolk and give the white to the dog. lol

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to greygoose

Aaaaah! It was over on Pernicious Anaemia Society:

healthunlocked.com/pasoc/po...

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greygoose in reply to helvella

Oh, right! That would be why I missed it then. :) Thank you for the link. :)

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greygoose in reply to OudMood

Oh, hard-boiled eggs, I don't even count them! Just fill the saucepan and boil. Love them in a tomatoey curry sauce. :D

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OudMood in reply to greygoose

😂😂😂😂🙈🙈🙈🙈

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to OudMood

Some days, eggs just keep cropping up:

‘I eat greasy fried eggs at least once a week’: Daniel Craig on Bond, being buff and crying at British Gas ads

theguardian.com/film/2021/o...

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Gcart

My dad and mum had fried breakfast most days . Meat and veg . Homemade puddings and always cream everyday. Dad 80 Mum 85. Not until the last few years did they need some help from doctors .

I don’t go that far but I do eat as naturally as I can from scratch .

Too many ‘experts’ advising about how to eat , I just take it with a large pinch of sea Salt.

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Leaney

Everything in moderation has always been my mantra. With red meat I try to stick to lamb as, living in the country, I know that it is the one animal that lives a very natural life. British free range pork runs it a close second and game is even better!

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Carys21

I add a 1/4 tsp of celtic sea salt to every litre of drinking water, and use plenty in cooking. I also eat lots of organic butter and have done for years. Steak when I can afford it 😃

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greeneyes31

I remember reading an article in The Times magazine supplement back in the 80's about how and why our bodies need fat. I was in my early 20's, it was something I had never read before and was at a time that low fat diets were being advised for everyone, including children! It made a huge impact on me and answered a lot of questions. I had just joined a gym and was being told by everyone there that I shouldn't be eating any fat all! I didn't pay any attention and continued to eat what I wanted. The other reason for my reluctance to give up fats was my grandmother. She ate whatever she wanted, including animal fat, dairy and salt every day of her life. She also liked a whisky :). She was the daughter of a butcher who ate the same way. They had 3 meals per day, no rubbish in between and fruit and vegetables were seasonal. My great grandfather lived till he was 85 and my grandmother lived till 100. Both died peacefully in their sleep with no underlying illnesses. My mother has eaten the same way and although she has some arthritis she is still here at 91. Maybe its genetic, but maybe it's also something to do with eating sensibly, everything in moderation? I plan to continue eating the way I do, which includes oily fish, butter, olive oil, and cheese.

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serenfach

I grow most of my diet, including lamb, beef, chicken and eggs, as well as all the veg, and have done for over 40 years. I also prefer a glass of cold milk to most drinks (red wine being slightly higher). The main problem with many people is that the milk is now homogenized where the fat droplets are emulsified and the cream does not separate. No more top of the milk treat! Because the fat droplets are now so small, they pass lower down the gut, and give people problems. If you can find it, try un-homoginized milk. This is mostly sold as "whole milk" as it is also unpasturised. The pasturisation removes the tiny tiny risk of TB.

When the children were young, we always had a house cow, and I think I lived off the cream I used to let settle for butter making. A bowl full of fresh Jersey cream, so thick it crinkled, with sugar on top. I miss it!

ps. My cholesterol is pretty good!

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OudMood in reply to serenfach

My great grandma lived in the countryside and had crops and a few animals. Mostly chickens and a few cows.My most sweet childhood memories are drinking warm milk just milked and having a go at making butter the old way (you’d have a wooden barrel thing and you’d have to “beat” the milk until it became butter!

Something our children woul never know 🥺😢

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