On combo-dose of levo and NDT. FT4 out of range... - Thyroid UK

Thyroid UK

141,240 members166,488 posts

On combo-dose of levo and NDT. FT4 out of range. What should I increase or decrease?

dragon51 profile image
1 Reply

Hello everyone would like to run the following by you in order to clarify some concerns I have. Really would appreciate some feedback.

Latest blood results via GP are as follows:

TSH 0.05 0.4 - 4.5 comment on blood form: Over Replaced

FT4 24.9 8.0 - 21.0 : Abnormal

FT3 5.6 2.5 - 6.5 : Subclinical Hyperthyroid

Prior to GP blood test, I combo - dosed with 75 levo and 15mcg Efra daily (split dose) in an attempt to improve FT3 level and hypo symptoms. Clearly FT3 has improved greatly but FT4 is out of range. GP did not know that I was taking NDT alongside 75 levo. Based on the above results GP reduced levo by 25mcg every alternate day (75 one day 50 the following day).

How will the minor reduction of levo alter the results above?

Having been diagnosed with AFib last year, GP was quite concerned about thyroid results causing arrhythmia. I myself, am also concerned about AFib issue which is why I opted to "combo - dose" with levo while also adding a very small amount of Efra, to improve FT3 level. So far, I have had no AFib symptoms at all.

Considering the AFib is my FT3 too high?

I am being treated for the AFIB with anti-coagulants and bisoprolol. Not a happy bunny though because I read a research paper that stated: Beta blockers can decrease the peripheral conversion of levothyroxine to triodothyronine. Seems to me the small amount of NDT i dose with has helped solve the conversion problem.

Have a rewarding day.

thank you in advance

Written by
dragon51 profile image
dragon51
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
1 Reply
greygoose profile image
greygoose

TSH 0.05 0.4 - 4.5 comment on blood form: Over Replaced

Nope. A suppressed TSH does not automatically mean you are over-replaced. You have to look at the three results in relation to each other. You are not over-replaced.

FT3 5.6 2.5 - 6.5 : Subclinical Hyperthyroid

lol They do make me laugh with their sub-clinical this and sub-clinical that! How can an FT3 of 77.5% through the range be in any way hyper? Hyper would be very, very much over-range. Besides, if you are hypo, you cannot suddenly become hyper. It doesn't work that way. Over-medicated, perhaps. But, you are not over-medicated.

Impossible to tell how that reduction in dose will affect your results. These things are unpredictable because they don't follow a set pattern. Your FT4 should drop slightly, but who knows if it will affect the FT3.

I think your doctor's concerns are unwarrented. T4 is a storage hormone that doesn't do much until converted to T3. It's not going to cause Afib. And, your FT3 is nicely in-range - for some it might still be too low.

Seems to me the small amount of NDT i dose with has helped solve the conversion problem.

Taking NDT hasn't 'solved' your conversion problem, that will still be the same. But, it has side-stepped it in raising your FT3 level. Just thought I'd point that out as some people do believe that taking T3 improves conversion. But, as far as anyone knows, it doesn't. :)

If I were you, I wouldn't alter anything until you've been on your reduced dose of levo for six weeks, and been retested. But, an over-range FT4 is not really anything to worry about. It's the FT3 the most important number.

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

What next: should I reduce Levo and increase T3?

Hi all, I finally managed to get a thyroid blood test via NHS endo, follow up appointment, to...
DizzyD profile image

Changing from NDT to T3 What dose of T3 should I take to equal the amount of T3 in the NDT?

Hello allFor the past 18 mths I have been combo dosing with levo and NDT. Levo: 75/50mcg on...
DizzyD profile image

Can low FT3 trigger AFib? Help needed please.

Hi all I have literally been trying to compose this post for nine hours which has really stressed...
DizzyD profile image

On combined t3/t4. FT4 and FT3 at bottom or out of range but increasing the dosage is barely raising the blood test results, TSH suppressed

I am at a loss regarding my blood test results over the past 18 months for FT4 and FT3, plus TSH. I...
Reefseeker profile image

Should I be concerned? T4 is out of range FT3 near top of range.

Hi all, I don't have a thyroid due to thyroidectomy 1992. Should I be concerned about following...
DizzyD profile image