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Good morning fellow sufferers, I have Hashimotos and over the last couple of months I have been suffering from really hot sweats so much so it looks like I have just had a shower, I know our weather has been very warm but these are like menopausal sweats that I used to suffer from until I was on HRT. My last bloods on 16th of June were T4 17.5 (12 -22) TSH 0.08 (0.27-42) vit. D 84.1 all my other vits. are well within range.

So my question is does has anyone else have the same problem as it's very debilitating and I am getting quite axtious about going out, oh and bye the way I'm 71 so its not my menopause.

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So you need to get FULL Thyroid and vitamin testing

Low B12 implicated in hot sweats at night. Low B12 becomes increasing problem as we age

Obviously essential to test TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 together

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies

Ask GP to test vitamin levels

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)

Is this how you do your tests?

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or thyroid antibodies or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus vitamins including folate (private blood draw required)

medichecks.com/products/thy...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

Medichecks - JUST vitamin testing including folate - DIY finger prick test

medichecks.com/products/nut...

Medichecks often have special offers, if order on Thursdays

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Loopyloo243 in reply to SlowDragon

Many thanks for your reply, I had my B12 done in June and it was 608 (180-914) My folate 16.7 (3.0-20.0) Potassium 4.2 (3.5-5.3) Magnesium 0.77 (0.7-1.0) So I don't know why I'm suffering with the sweats.

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Loopyloo243

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

Suggest you test TSH, Ft4 And Ft3 via private test

Extremely important to test as early as possible in morning before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/thyr...

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Loopyloo243 in reply to SlowDragon

I'm currently taking vit D with K2 added, Zinc to help with my hair and nails plus I've been taking Co enzyme 10 for years. I started taking vit D when I found out my level was way below normal but at 101 now I think that's ok. I will take a private blood test as it's impossible to get T3 done. I have a reply from humanbean that's interesting and maybe a route I will take

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Loopyloo243

Plus test vitamin D

vitamindtest.org.uk

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humanbean

I have been suffering from really hot sweats so much so it looks like I have just had a shower

You have my sympathy and empathy. I can sweat during snowstorms, and in hot weather I drip, and walk around the house with a towel draped around my neck to try and keep myself as dry as possible (but it is never enough).

I think my problem is caused by high cortisol. I take a supplement which helps with lowering cortisol (Holy Basil) but I ran out of it weeks ago and I think my new order must be coming from the moon it's taking so long.

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Loopyloo243 in reply to humanbean

Good morning humanbean I have never heard of Holy Basil I will look into it, does it help and are you in the UK .?

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humanbean in reply to Loopyloo243

I'm in the UK. Holy Basil is a supplement - a herb - and it can be bought online without a prescription. It has an alternative name - Tulsi.

Before testing I had been absolutely convinced my cortisol must be low. But symptoms of low and high cortisol have a lot of overlap, something I wasn't aware of at the time. (This was several years ago, it wasn't recent.) I decided to test my cortisol before supplementing anything.

I was so convinced my cortisol must be low that as soon as I had sent off my first four-part saliva cortisol test samples and before I got my results I started taking a supplement to raise cortisol. It was a disaster. I ended up being incredibly angry, more sweaty than usual, irritable, headaches got worse, and I felt almost homicidal. And I could sleep even less than normal.

It turned out my cortisol was actually over the range on three of the four samples and at 90% of the way through the range on the other sample, and the supplement I was taking was raising it even further which was why my symptoms got worse.

Moral of this tale - never make assumptions about cortisol. Always test first. You might think it is high when it is low, or think it is low when it is high, or blame cortisol for a symptom that is caused by something else.

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The best tests for cortisol that I know of :

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

regeneruslabs.com/products/...

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

gdx.net/uk/product/adrenal-...

Other tests of cortisol have absurd reference ranges which suggest that having zero cortisol is healthy, they give some results as "less than something" rather than an actual value, and they don't include a test of DHEA.

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Holy Basil /Tulsi can be bought as a tea, which you can try out very cheaply. Search for "Tulsi". I've bought it in some supermarkets and in Holland & Barrett. It is an acquired taste - and I imagine the dose in tea must be very small.

The supplement I take is this one :

healthmonthly.co.uk/swanson...

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I would always suggest testing cortisol before trying any supplements intended to change the level. But trying out a few cups of Holy Basil/Tulsi as a herbal tea wouldn't do any harm (probably).

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Loopyloo243 in reply to humanbean

Many thanks for your advice it's certainly given me something to think about.

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