Do you know what you are taking with the thyroidinum? Is it from sheep, cows or pigs? It might be helpful for you to know how much t4 and t3 are in the thyroid extract so you can gauge your real dose.
I just know it’s supposed to help keep thyroid active to balance the negative of taking conventional Levothyroxine .
Sorry, but what does that mean? If your thyroid were active, you wouldn't need to take levo in the first place. And why is taking levo negative? I'm afraid that doesn't make any sense.
Your thyroid is not making enough hormones, you can’t replace missing hormones with any homeopathic mixture
Standard starter dose of levothyroxine is 50mcg (unless over 65 years old).
Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose increase
The aim of Levothyroxine is to increase the dose slowly in 25mcg steps upwards until TSH is under 2 (many patients need TSH significantly under one) and most important is that FT4 is in top third of range and FT3 at least half way through range
NHS guidelines on Levothyroxine including that most patients eventually need somewhere between 100mcg and 200mcg Levothyroxine.
Also note what foods to avoid (eg recommended to avoid calcium rich foods at least four hours from taking Levo)
For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested. Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12
Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially if you have autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto's) diagnosed by raised Thyroid antibodies
Ask GP to test vitamin levels
You may need to get full Thyroid testing privately as NHS refuses to test TG antibodies if TPO antibodies are negative
Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .
Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).
This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip, best not mentioned to GP or phlebotomist)
All four vitamins need to be regularly tested and frequently need supplementing to maintain optimal levels
See different GP for 25mcg dose increase in levothyroxine and get vitamins tested ASAP and thyroid levels retested 6-8 weeks after dose increase
Come back with new post once you get vitamin results and next thyroid results after 6-8 weeks on 75mcg
Many people find Levothyroxine brands are not interchangeable.
Once you find a brand that suits you, best to make sure to only get that one at each prescription.
Watch out for brand change when dose is increased or at repeat prescription.
Many patients do NOT get on well with Teva brand of Levothyroxine. Teva contains mannitol as a filler, which seems to be possible cause of problems. Teva is the only brand that makes 75mcg tablet. So if avoiding Teva for 75mcg dose ask for 25mcg to add to 50mcg or just extra 50mcg tablets to cut in half
What’s the actual results and ranges of Ft4 and Ft3
The aim of Levothyroxine is to increase the dose slowly in 25mcg steps upwards until TSH is under 2 (many patients need TSH significantly under one) and most important is that FT4 is in top third of range and FT3 at least half way through range
NHS guidelines on Levothyroxine including that most patients eventually need somewhere between 100mcg and 200mcg Levothyroxine.
Many thanks for the above. I was taking my Levothyroxine around 2am,but recently changed to 6am. as it was too complicated to decide when to take my last tablets before a blood test and settled on 36 hours before,but what would you suggest. Do I stick with 6am or go back to 2am(which is when for some reason or another I seem to naturally wake).Your last sentences may explain why Ive been feeling strange.
Thyreoïdum is a prescription-only desiccated thyroid product available in the Netherlands (and possibly, occasionally, elsewhere in Europe). Broadly similar to other Natural Desiccated Thyroid products - such as Armour, Erfa, Nature-Throid, Thyrois S, etc.
Thyroidinum 30cH (or various other number/letter sequences) which is an ultra-diluted homoeopathic remedy which will contain no measurable T4 or T3 or thyroid tissue.
Hi Mostew, I also have Hashimotos, take 50 mcg of Levothyroxine and take thyroidinium . I see a homoeopath but often order the remedies online as it is cheaper, Galen or Helios are very reliable.
I know that not everyone ‘gets’ homeopathy but am of the mind that if it works for you, it works for you. It works for me. I had been in a situation where the GP refused to increase my Levothyroxine as my TSH was ‘in range’ and it was nearly a 4 month wait to see an Endo and I was really struggling so started taking the Thyroidinium and currently am well and energised .
However I must add that with having Hashimotos I am also trying to preserve what thyroid function I have left by following a gluten free and dairy free diet, taking oral D3, vitK2 and magnesium along with selenium and ashwaganda plus daily morning exercise. If I were just to take Levothyroxine I would not be dealing with the underlying issues and my thyroid would most certainly continue to deteriorate and my need for Levothyroxine would increase. What I am doing may not work long term but it might and that is good enough for me.
10 years without an increase is very inspiring, I also do Chi Kung, meditation, use acupressure points. The proactive approach for me is the only approach. Thank you
I was diagnosed in November so fairly new to this . I use TW 17: indentation behind ear lobe, SI 17 indentation below ear lobe, CV22:indentation front base of neck, K27 indentations under clavicle about an inch and a half below CV22. It is better to use a picture than my description but you gently press these areas for a count of three slow deep breaths and can repeat three to five times daily. They are meant to balance the thyroid . Thank you for the details of the Chi Kung. I am lucky enough to join my meditation class 5 days a week on line where we combine exercise also so I feel very blessed but will look at the Chi Kung
Mostew, may I ask who is your homeopath and where in the country you live and are you happy with her/him? I’ve been emailing a medical doctor homeopath in London about a different issue and when lockdown ends will visit her and will obviously mention my thyroid issues
Why dont you just contact your ex GP by phone or email etc.. She may be willing to treat you privately. Homeopathic drugs are usually way cheaper and more affordeable than conventional ones and there are two very good homeopathic pharmacies based in the West End of London. If you ask for the remedy by name it will cost less than if you hand in a prescription as for that there is presumably more form filling needed.
. The homeopath I saw is a qualified allopathic Dr . As well . I saw her for several years and know from experience of how I was to now , that the carefully selected remedies were a big part in helping me
along with eating food that suits me , being aware stress triggers .
Homeopathy is well respected in some cultures .
Not one thing is useful on its own .
For me the ‘proof is in the pudding ‘ don’t need Scientific evidence . . But not everyone
Will suit this approach and are better to take advice from conventional doctors . I like to listen to all views including conventional and test things out for myself .
Homeopathy might work for all sorts of things but it definitely can't replace thyroid hormones. Neither can it compensate for a non-existent thyroid gland, or one that's been irradiated, or surgically removed. If you believe it's helping alongside your thyroid meds, then fair enough. But don't fool yourself into being underdosed on thyroid meds just because they are man made. Thyroid meds are not drugs, they are replacement hormones. And thyroid hormones are absolutely essential for life.
It's easy for people who are physically fit enough to stand in the kitchen cooking from scratch to sneer at factory made food. But the fact is, many, many people depend on good quality food (I like M&S too). Elderly infirm peole have been surviving, maybe even thriving, with 'meals on wheels' food for decades now.
And I wonder where the line is drawn between school or workplace canteen food versus factory food. Because many of us grew up with school meals - mostly yuk but we survived!
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